On Epic, if you don't Power Attack, the normal +to hit stuff is fine. If you do PA, you'll need all the +to hit stuff you can get.

Now, having said that, Weighted and stunning are where it's at in Epic and all you need to do is hit.

So, if you have better things to spend the feats on and all you're going to do is stun stuff, don't bother with the Weapon Focus-type feats.

Gornn wrote on Mar 18^th, 2010 at 3:20pm:



Ah yes, you're right WF is needed. My bad.

As to your Warhammer question...let's just say you wouldn't be the ONLY guy to have converted or built a toon this way.

Stunning rules in Epic for sure.

Arkat wrote on Mar 18^th, 2010 at 3:47pm:


no one in his right mind will convert a slash specced kensai to bludgeon specced. A L20 fighter has 18 feats, there is more than enough to have both! There are ways to save feats thou, ie you do not need IC bludgeon as you are relying on stun. You do not really need to spec to bludgeon as the kensai DC is for all weapons. The only thing missing is the to hit bonus which can be increased by going without PA or by using ToD kensai set (+5 to hit with kensai III)

fully buffed in a raid shurugar can hit +70 to hit, +60 damage with PA up. A +70 is good for most epic mobs

Mithran wrote on Mar 24^th, 2010 at 9:46pm:


i just looked through brut on the forums. there are some things which i feel can be changed

stats: why 9 wis and 9 cha? if you are going pure dps, dump them to 8. plus 1 more point in those stat doesnt really make a difference. personally i'll be more ambitious and even go 18/14/15/12/8/8

skills: drop tumble, you only need 1 rank. could get your umd up. shurugar really enjoys his umd. 10 min shield wands when twf rocks!

feats:take toughness early on. otwf can wait until you get itwf. low level twf isnt really that efficient. gtwf should be taken at 16 not 18 and swf at 18 not 16. you need swf for kensai III which is only available at 18. taking gtwf at 16 helps more. power attack should be taken much much earlier, not at 20. swop it with stunning blow. oh, drop dodge, not really useful at your ac

enhancement: haste boost 4 is a must for kensai's. drop critical accuracy 4, its a waste of 4 APs. why get dex? i doubt you be speccing for tanking since i do not see amor mastery. get adapt str con instead to open up racial toughness 3 to replace fighter toughness 4 to save 1 AP. get gtr adaptability str to replace fighter str 3 to save 2 APs

epic stunning blow is definately worth it. but i suggest fixing your will save first. its going to be ugly 

Arkat wrote on Mar 25^th, 2010 at 9:05am:

I only have Crit Accuracy III and I have Kensai III. I followed the build that Demoyn did for me in the builds section.

Prerequisites: Level 18 Fighter, Fighter Kensei II, Fighter Attack Boost III, Fighter Critical Accuracy III, any Superior Weapon Focus.  - taken from ddowiki ^tm

ps - that build isn't the way you want to go with a brand new character, it was put together for a lesser reincarnation.

Aranticus wrote on Mar 25^th, 2010 at 9:36am:


Oh crap, really?

They really need to fix the Compendium then! 

Thanks guys.

EDIT: I changed the Kensai III requirements down at the bottom of the Fighter page in the DDO Compendium to reflect the Critical Accuracy III requirement.

Hordo wrote on Mar 25^th, 2010 at 6:20pm:


Character Planner? We don't need no steengkeeng Character Planner! 

Arkat wrote on Mar 25^th, 2010 at 8:29pm:



You don't use things that let you see numbers and options when building?  No wonder you like monks.











Yeah, I had to say it. 

Demoyn wrote on Mar 25^th, 2010 at 9:46pm:


It's called Pen, Paper, and Math! 

(I've actually used Ron's character planner once. I just don't like the way it looks.)

Aranticus wrote on Mar 25^th, 2010 at 11:02pm:


You'd be surprised Joseph, you'd be surprised.

Demoyn wrote on Mar 26^th, 2010 at 12:05am:


It's more than half but less than 100%. It's prolly around 80% to 85% that bolts actually get shot.

Gimped compared to the Monster? Yah.

Can hold the agro of Sally when "tanking" in VoD? Yah, that too.

Lightning II Hvy Repeaters are fun!

Aranticus wrote on Mar 25^th, 2010 at 12:59am:

How did you manage a 33 point build?

A 32 point Kensai III 18 14 14 12 8 8 human...

If a TR I would 18 15 15 12 8 8 ... or possible a 18 14 14 10 8 12 if you had a +3 or 4 int tome and were planning on fitting in force of personality into it some how?

Shugar is right though see investment in UMD is what am after but costs a feat ... Human fighters are sometimes thin on though believe it or not am still debating what feat to rip out from Emi for it...