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Madcow430 Shroud Slacker Offline I have Mad Cow Disease Posts: 1207 Location: Arizona Joined: Jul 4^th, 2010 Gender:	Need an expert please... Jul 27^th, 2010 at 5:22pm	Print Post
	Okay... I'm experienced enough to know that I could really fuck this up. So I thought I'd get some opinions on this idea I had. I was reading this post: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=227645 ; and thought this would be freaking awsome to try out. And it just so happens that I've capped Cromix recently. Instead of following someone else's build to the letter, I'd rather have my own variant on a theme. Anyway, what I am looking to do here is TR this ranger into a build similar to this one. But I'd rather it have decent ac for mid level stuff. The pally I have is KOTC and takes as much damage as a barb. Freaking kobolds can hit him. I know it takes some outrageous number above 80 to be viable end game. Not looking for that. The idea is to make use of the ranger past life feat that gives you barkskin, and maybe fit combat expertise in for a decent ac. I just can't seem to get the plan right though. So I'm wondering if you guys might be able to help a brotha out. 34 pt build is the baseline. Thoughts appreciated


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Aranticus Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2110 Joined: Jun 30^th, 2009	Re: Need an expert please... Reply #1 - Jul 27^th, 2010 at 6:23pm	Print Post
	The twf pally anthios has is decent but not the thf. Which dumbass will put 13 con on a thf? Esp when it has neligible ac? Personally for thf I prefer ultimega build. I also favor at least 10 int so I get to fill up 2 skills ie umd and balance the way anthios rolled his pally with quicken and torc, he meant to get hit then self heal. The way I play my wf pally is I use the long reach of my axe/greatsword to hit stuff without them hitting me these are some stat considerations u want to make str: 15-18 higher = more dps but is a +1/2 worth the 6/8 build points? Dex: 14-15 depends on if u get a +3 tome for keeps before u tr con: 14-16 more hp = better survivability but when is enough for you? Int: 8-10 no umd or umd? Can u affort the build points? Wis: 8 wis is a dump stat cha: 14-18 depend on availability of tomes, build points u have, which DM u want? Most people want to get at least DM3


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Tspoon Ex Member	Re: Need an expert please... Reply #2 - Jul 27^th, 2010 at 7:23pm	Print Post
	Is the Ultimega build still on the ddo forums, I can't seem to find it.� T found it.
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Madcow430 Shroud Slacker Offline I have Mad Cow Disease Posts: 1207 Location: Arizona Joined: Jul 4^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Need an expert please... Reply #3 - Jul 27^th, 2010 at 8:03pm	Print Post
	Okay, I know I made some mistakes here.� But this is what I came up with so far.� Combat expertise is out of the question, but I was able to fit in the past life second feat at least.� Opinions are encouraged please: Quote: Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.5.1 DDO Character Planner Home Page� Cromix� Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male (20 Paladin) Hit Points: 362 Spell Points: 275 BAB: 20/20/25/3030 Fortitude: 24 Reflex: 18 Will: 15 � �� Starting� � Feat/Enhancement Abilities� � Base Stats� � Modified Stats (34 Point)� � (Level 1)� �� (Level 20) Strength� �� 16� �� 22 Dexterity� �� 15� �� 17 Constitution� �� 14� �� 17 Intelligence� �� 8� �� 10 Wisdom� �� 8� �� 10 Charisma� �� 16� �� 22 Tomes Used +1 Tome of Strength used at level 1 +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1 +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 1 +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1 +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1 +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 1 +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7 +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7 +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7 +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7 +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7 +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7 � �� Starting� �� Feat/Enhancement � �� Base Skills� Modified Skills Skills� �� (Level 1)� �� (Level 20) Balance� �� 4� �� 4 Bluff� �� 3� �� 6 Concentration� �� 2� �� 16 Diplomacy� �� 3� �� 6 Disable Device� �� n/a� �� n/a Haggle� �� 3� �� 6 Heal� �� -1� �� 0 Hide� �� 3� �� 3 Intimidate� �� 5� �� 17 Jump� �� 3� �� 6 Listen� �� -1� �� 0 Move Silently� �� 3� �� 3 Open Lock� �� n/a� �� n/a Perform� �� n/a� �� n/a Repair� �� -1� �� 0 Search� �� -1� �� 0 Spot� �� -1� �� 2 Swim� �� 3� �� 6 Tumble� �� n/a� �� n/a Use Magic Device� �4� �� 17 Level 1 (Paladin) Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger Feat: (Selected) Toughness Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host Enhancement: Human Versatility I Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I Level 2 (Paladin) Enhancement: Paladin Concentration I Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I Level 3 (Paladin) Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Warrior of the Wild Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Paladin Devotion I Level 4 (Paladin) Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I Level 5 (Paladin) Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might I Level 6 (Paladin) Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh Enhancement: Paladin Exallted Smite I Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Level 7 (Paladin) Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice I Level 8 (Paladin) Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II Level 9 (Paladin) Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty Level 10 (Paladin) Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar II Level 11 (Paladin) Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil III Enhancement: Racial Toughness III Level 12 (Paladin) Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice II Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite II Level 13 (Paladin) Level 14 (Paladin) Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Strength I Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III Level 15 (Paladin) Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil IV Level 16 (Paladin) Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might II Level 17 (Paladin) Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might III Level 18 (Paladin) Feat: (Selected) Power Attack Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good II Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice II Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice III Level 19 (Paladin) Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice III Level 20 (Paladin) Enhancement: Paladin Weapons of Good Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good II Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II Extra con can come from greensteel crafting that's already in progress.� It doesn't look horrible, but I need imput please before I roll this.


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Aranticus Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2110 Joined: Jun 30^th, 2009	Re: Need an expert please... Reply #4 - Jul 27^th, 2010 at 10:34pm	Print Post
	Enhancement: Paladin Weapons of Good Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good II Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice II Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice III Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite II Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite III Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite IV Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II Enhaancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil III Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil IV Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice I Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice II Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice III Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar II Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III Enhancement: Paladin Toughness IV Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might I Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might II Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might III this is how i would spend 77 points


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Madcow430 Shroud Slacker Offline I have Mad Cow Disease Posts: 1207 Location: Arizona Joined: Jul 4^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Need an expert please... Reply #5 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 3:19pm	Print Post
	Noted. Thanks kindly for the help, Aranticus.


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Astraghal Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 883 Joined: Jun 13^th, 2010	Re: Need an expert please... Reply #6 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 11:39pm	Print Post
	Madcow430 wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 3:19pm: Noted. Thanks kindly for the help, Aranticus.� Make sure you keep the wrist slot free for those +7 imaginary bracers of pure lies, wanker.


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Madcow430 Shroud Slacker Offline I have Mad Cow Disease Posts: 1207 Location: Arizona Joined: Jul 4^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Need an expert please... Reply #7 - Jul 29^th, 2010 at 1:37am	Print Post
	Astraghal wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 11:39pm: Make sure you keep the wrist slot free for those +7 imaginary bracers of pure lies, wanker. You'll have to try much harder than that to insult me thief.� I'd presume you'd have choked on them by now... Yet I'm not surprised you can't even get that right following watching you kill yourself with that gimp fighter you have in a level 14 raid. Kindly go and continue giving bad advice and asking stupid questions in the advice channel.� This thread was started for build advice on a TR idea.� It's not a fresh pond for amoebas to swim in, maggot.
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Astraghal Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 883 Joined: Jun 13^th, 2010	Re: Need an expert please... Reply #8 - Jul 29^th, 2010 at 10:56am	Print Post
	Madcow430 wrote on Jul 29^th, 2010 at 1:37am: You'll have to try much harder than that to insult me thief.� I'd presume you'd have choked on them by now... Yet I'm not surprised you can't even get that right following watching you kill yourself with that gimp fighter you have in a level 14 raid. Kindly go and continue giving bad advice and asking stupid questions in the advice channel.� This thread was started for build advice on a TR idea.� It's not a fresh pond for amoebas to swim in, maggot. Finally, we get to the root of the matter. So what REALLY happened is, I was asking advice in the ADVICE CHANNEL (god forbid!) one day, when you decided to chime in with some derogatory 'noob' comment regarding my less than encyclopedic knowledge of ddo minutiae. I responded by immediately calling you out in front of everyone for your childish, narrow-minded attitude towards people expressing a genuine desire to learn more about the game. You were so humiliated and emasculated by this, that you completely fabricated a story about me for the sole purpose of calling my integrity into question.� � This is one of the most despicable, sullen, cowardly, douchebag moves I have witnessed in a long time. You now have the credibilty of a fly-blown turd.


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Madcow430 Shroud Slacker Offline I have Mad Cow Disease Posts: 1207 Location: Arizona Joined: Jul 4^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Need an expert please... Reply #9 - Jul 29^th, 2010 at 12:43pm	Print Post
	Astraghal wrote on Jul 29^th, 2010 at 10:56am: Finally, we get to the root of the matter. So what REALLY happened is, I was asking advice in the ADVICE CHANNEL (god forbid!) one day, when you decided to chime in with some derogatory 'noob' comment regarding my less than encyclopedic knowledge of ddo minutiae. I responded by immediately calling you out in front of everyone for your childish, narrow-minded attitude towards people expressing a genuine desire to learn more about the game. You were so humiliated and emasculated by this, that you completely fabricated a story about me for the sole purpose of calling my integrity into question.� � This is one of the most despicable, sullen, cowardly, douchebag moves I have witnessed in a long time. You now have the credibilty of a fly-blown turd. You've graduated to 6th grade language. I see you are still trying.� Very well thief... The root of the matter is you are a thief.� In case your tiny brain somehow missed that, let me say it again: You stole something I borrowed you in good faith because you couldn't survive the run from the vale to coal chamber without losing all of your health repeatedly.� Pathetic on it's own... but i felt sorry for your lame ass and tried to help you out. Since you are obviously pondscum, you chose not to return them.� Now you parrot the same response I've seen you give in these forums and in game whenever your lame ass immature unoriginal opportunistic behavior is called out...� You try and muddy the water by accusing everyone else of lying.� If the two neurons you apparently possess stopped fighting and actually helped you produce cognitive thought for a moment, you'd quickly come to the realization that your counter argument is worthless.� Cause, you know, everyone else is wrong and you never are; except not Had you given me back what I borrowed you, I'd not care in the least.� I'd simply qualify you as a waste of time to spend with playing the game proper for various reasons and avoid you altogether.� As to your notion that you somehow bested me in the advice channel dream on.� My preferred method to counter your drivel is to /tell the person you are misleading.� I've not yet had the inclination to address you directly there.� It's because I'm busy playing the game.� The fact that you have multiple people trolling you in that channel is typical.� Giving bad advice to people draws that kind of attention.� Yet I see that concept is still a stretch for you to grasp. You can't counter repeated call outs on opportunistic, selfish, uninformed and stupid behavior with, "... they must be lying (insert poorly crafted insult here)" and expect to be taken seriously. That said, your reply is a joke. Trolling my thread regarding a concept build and now posturing is just lame.� I told you before dumbass, move along. Or better yet; start another thread demonstrating just how usless you are. I'd happy to respond there. As the title of this thread denotes I as asking for expert advice regarding a concept build. You don't qualify to be in here.


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Astraghal Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 883 Joined: Jun 13^th, 2010	Re: Need an expert please... Reply #10 - Jul 29^th, 2010 at 1:19pm	Print Post
	Madcow430 wrote on Jul 29^th, 2010 at 12:43pm: You've graduated to 6th grade language. I see you are still trying.� Very well thief... The root of the matter is you are a thief.� In case your tiny brain somehow missed that, let me say it again: You stole something I borrowed you in good faith because you couldn't survive the run from the vale to coal chamber without losing all of your health repeatedly.� Pathetic on it's own... but i felt sorry for your lame ass and tried to help you out. Since you are obviously pondscum, you chose not to return them.� Now you parrot the same response I've seen you give in these forums and in game whenever your lame ass immature unoriginal opportunistic behavior is called out...� You try and muddy the water by accusing everyone else of lying.� If the two neurons you apparently possess stopped fighting and actually helped you produce cognitive thought for a moment, you'd quickly come to the realization that your counter argument is worthless.� Cause, you know, everyone else is wrong and you never are; except not Had you given me back what I borrowed you, I'd not care in the least.� I'd simply qualify you as a waste of time to spend with playing the game proper for various reasons and avoid you altogether.� As to your notion that you somehow bested me in the advice channel dream on.� My preferred method to counter your drivel is to /tell the person you are misleading.� I've not yet had the inclination to address you directly there.� It's because I'm busy playing the game.� The fact that you have multiple people trolling you in that channel is typical.� Giving bad advice to people draws that kind of attention.� Yet I see that concept is still a stretch for you to grasp. You can't counter repeated call outs on opportunistic, selfish, uninformed and stupid behavior with, "... they must be lying (insert poorly crafted insult here)" and expect to be taken seriously.� That said, your reply is a joke.� Trolling my thread regarding a concept build and now posturing is just lame.� I told you before dumbass, move along.� Or better yet; start another thread demonstrating just how usless you are.� I'd happy to respond there.� As the title of this thread denotes I as asking for expert advice regarding a concept build.� You don't qualify to be in here. Cool story bro. Who are you trying to convince with that wall of text? If you had even bothered to check myddo to see what class I was, before posting your fairy tales, you would have realised that +7 armor bracers would be totally useless to me. So as well as being a liar, you are also stupid. I must have really fucked with your head, to get you worked up to the point of fabricating this bullcrap. You must have been seething for weeks after that dressing down I gave you in advice chat.


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Madcow430 Shroud Slacker Offline I have Mad Cow Disease Posts: 1207 Location: Arizona Joined: Jul 4^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Need an expert please... Reply #11 - Jul 29^th, 2010 at 1:44pm	Print Post
	I'd say a psychologist, and some originality would suit you well. Sadly, you appear to be beyond help. Not suprising coming from a idiot... Either way you are a thief. Feel free to keep practicing overused comebacks and avoiding the issue. If you try hard enough, you might amuse me. Incidentally, I've only had two people steal from me and you are one of them. I could give a shit about bracers I would have made use of months ago. In principle however your will remain useless pondscum. Reading comprehension goes a long way scum. Try using a dictionary if you don't grasp what this thread is actually for.


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Strakeln Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Lumberjack Posts: 12345 Joined: Jun 27^th, 2009	Re: Need an expert please... Reply #12 - Jul 29^th, 2010 at 7:21pm	Print Post
	Well this thread just got a lot more interesting! What I read here further supports my theory that Astra is not an 18 year old female.

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woody Shroud Slacker Offline Pass the popcorn Posts: 1078 Joined: Jan 26^th, 2010	Re: Need an expert please... Reply #13 - Jul 29^th, 2010 at 8:38pm	Print Post
	Strakeln wrote on Jul 29^th, 2010 at 7:21pm: Well this thread just got a lot more interesting!� What I read here further supports my theory that Astra is not an 18 year old female. Yes. All day entertainment. Agreed. But then what is it?

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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Need an expert please... Reply #14 - Sep 1^st, 2010 at 12:27pm	Print Post
	woody wrote on Jul 29^th, 2010 at 8:38pm: Yes. All day entertainment. Agreed. But then what is it? Madcow makes it pretty clear as to what it is: Madcow430 wrote on Jul 29^th, 2010 at 12:43pm: a thief.� In case your tiny brain somehow missed that, let me say it again: thief... Reading comprehension goes a long way scum.� Try using a dictionary So woody ol' chap, Your "reading walls of text" skill must be low.� Do you have a skill competency� item equipped?
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	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Madcow430 Shroud Slacker Offline I have Mad Cow Disease Posts: 1207 Location: Arizona Joined: Jul 4^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Need an expert please... Reply #15 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 3:37am	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on Sep 1^st, 2010 at 12:27pm: Your "reading walls of text" skill must be low.� Do you have a skill competency� item equipped? You begin to attempt gratuitous baiting... You roll a 1 You fail your gratuitous baiting attempt. Incidentally, that was almost entertaining. I would expect better from an officer of AOK.


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Bacab Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 60 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2010	Re: Need an expert please... Reply #16 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 5:48am	Print Post
	IBTL... oh right....we get to see how this plays out here! Oh yeah...I doubt Astragril is really an 18 year old female. One of these people are lieing...I think we have already caught Astra in a lie? Or maybe I am wrong... But something transpired between these two... Sooooo what exactly happened?


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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Need an expert please... Reply #17 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 6:26am	Print Post
	Madcow430 wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 3:37am: You begin to attempt gratuitous baiting... You roll a 1 You fail your gratuitous baiting attempt. Incidentally, that was almost entertaining.� I would expect better from an officer of AOK.� It was meant for woody, not you� � I will rearrange the post to make that more clear. Yet, I guess it kind of applies eh? now my post just doesnt sound right anymore... tis a real shame.
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	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Astraghal Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 883 Joined: Jun 13^th, 2010	Re: Need an expert please... Reply #18 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 6:53am	Print Post
	Bacab wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 5:48am: IBTL... oh right....we get to see how this plays out here! Oh yeah...I doubt Astragril is really an 18 year old female. One of these people are lieing...I think we have already caught Astra in a lie?� Or maybe I am wrong... But something transpired between these two... Sooooo what exactly happened? I don't know who you are, or the collective 'we' you are referring to. I'm not sure that you understand the mechanics of this forum. This forum started as a refuge for an internet bully clique who got banned from the ddo forums for abusing and belittling other posters. Through this forum they have formed a loose social network for the purpose of singling out individuals for harassment and defamation in the game and on here. One of the rites of passage for gaining entry into this cadre, is to pursue a vendetta against particular individuals deemed worthy targets, in the hope of generating enough drama to keep the heat off yourself and become accepted as a fully fledged member of the inner circle. This can include the complete fabrication of stories designed to call a marked individuals integrity into question. It's a kind of gang mentality and as we know from real life, people who subscribe to it are usually insecure, bitter, lonely people who are seeking to empower themselves through the social heirarchy of the gang, because they are angry at their lack of power in the real world. As far as this applies to me and madcow430, his outright lie regarding me borrowing and not returning an item, was an attempt by him to get on side with the cool kids. A lot of them go along with it, but they know that I know, that they know that it's not really true.


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Bacab Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 60 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2010	Re: Need an expert please... Reply #19 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 7:12am	Print Post
	Strakeln wrote on Jul 29^th, 2010 at 7:21pm: Well this thread just got a lot more interesting!� What I read here further supports my theory that Astra is not an 18 year old female. This is what I meant by "we" Your posting style makes me think you really are not a 18 year old female. Not that it matters either way...if you are...or not. But it is common in MMO's for dudes to pretend to be girls to get free shit. I am not accusing you of this.� But if you really are or really are not an 18 year old female...why make that your tag? I used to play a different MMO with a person that indeed pulled that card...and when he was found out...he tried to pretend it did not matter...but a lot of guildies were pissed because this person DID get away with a lot of shit due to a LOT of MMO players being lonely guys looking for love in all the wrong places. Either way...if his story about you stealing something is fraudulant...that really sucks. But my pre-concieved notions about anyone claiming to be a 18 y/o female...it just seems to fit.� Generally they pick a legal age (18) and pick a location thats far away from their target (Perth, Australia would be a good pick).� They also try to appear "down on their luck" or vulnerable...anyway here is a sample of how this scam goes down... "18 y/o female": Oooh you are so big an strong...carry me through this quest... Meta-gaming male: Oh I will help you...(omg a girl is talking to me!) 18 y/o Female: wow how do you pwn everythign so well? Meta-gaming Male: Oh its this awesome gear...want to borrow it (its kinda like opening the car door...I'm gonna get to second base!) 18 y/o Female: You are right...this is better.� I wish I had someone to take care of me in real life like this. Meta-Gaming Male: Aww...tell me more...(OMFG I'm in!) 18 y/o Female: I really like playing this game...but farming is sooo hard. Meta-Gaming Male: Well then you can have it.� If you need anything let me know! *fast forward 2 weeks...the Meta-Gaming Male finds out that 18 y/o Female is really 27 Year old Male* Meta-Gaming Male: Hey can I have my stuff back? 18 y/o female...27 y/o male: No...you gave it to me... Meta-Gaming Male: Gimme MY SHIT BACK NOW 18 y/o Female: I am reporting you for abuse! Ok anyone ever seen this play out like that? BTW this was not targeting MadCow430 saying he was Meta-Gaming Male. Just saying I have seen this scam a few times...and when it does not work...the giver/borrower still gets screwed out of the item. Also the beef between Asdra and MadCow is between them...but I have never really seen him go out of his way to insult others. He generally ignores trolls on the other forums (this was not meant to accuse Asdra either). I am not trying to stir the pot (maybe I am).� But...it just seems sooo familiar...an ex g/f of mine used to play FFXI with me and she'd get free shit all the time when people found out she was a 22 y/o Asian Girl... Anyway this could explain a lot...could it not? /tinfoil hat
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Nevthial Dragon Raider Offline Cundalini wants his hand back Posts: 206 Location: G-Town!! Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Need an expert please... Reply #20 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 7:41am	Print Post
	C'mon! Where's the response!?!!?! /wait

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Astraghal Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 883 Joined: Jun 13^th, 2010	Re: Need an expert please... Reply #21 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 8:03am	Print Post
	Bacab wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 7:12am: This is what I meant by "we" Your posting style makes me think you really are not a 18 year old female. Not that it matters either way...if you are...or not. But it is common in MMO's for dudes to pretend to be girls to get free shit. I am not accusing you of this.� But if you really are or really are not an 18 year old female...why make that your tag? I used to play a different MMO with a person that indeed pulled that card...and when he was found out...he tried to pretend it did not matter...but a lot of guildies were pissed because this person DID get away with a lot of shit due to a LOT of MMO players being lonely guys looking for love in all the wrong places. Either way...if his story about you stealing something is fraudulant...that really sucks. But my pre-concieved notions about anyone claiming to be a 18 y/o female...it just seems to fit.� Generally they pick a legal age (18) and pick a location thats far away from their target (Perth, Australia would be a good pick).� They also try to appear "down on their luck" or vulnerable...anyway here is a sample of how this scam goes down... "18 y/o female": Oooh you are so big an strong...carry me through this quest... Meta-gaming male: Oh I will help you...(omg a girl is talking to me!) 18 y/o Female: wow how do you pwn everythign so well? Meta-gaming Male: Oh its this awesome gear...want to borrow it (its kinda like opening the car door...I'm gonna get to second base!) 18 y/o Female: You are right...this is better.� I wish I had someone to take care of me in real life like this. Meta-Gaming Male: Aww...tell me more...(OMFG I'm in!) 18 y/o Female: I really like playing this game...but farming is sooo hard. Meta-Gaming Male: Well then you can have it.� If you need anything let me know! *fast forward 2 weeks...the Meta-Gaming Male finds out that 18 y/o Female is really 27 Year old Male* Meta-Gaming Male: Hey can I have my stuff back? 18 y/o female...27 y/o male: No...you gave it to me... Meta-Gaming Male: Gimme MY SHIT BACK NOW 18 y/o Female: I am reporting you for abuse! Ok anyone ever seen this play out like that? I am not trying to stir the pot (maybe I am).� But...it just seems sooo familiar...an ex g/f of mine used to play FFXI with me and she'd get free shit all the time when people found out she was a 22 y/o Asian Girl... Anyway this could explain a lot...could it not? /tinfoil hat I see what you're getting at, but the age and gender I chose to put in my profile here has no bearing on my actions in the game or on this forum. I've seen guys pretend to be girls in games for the reasons you've outlined and I think it's despicable. In other words, I'm not pretending to be a girl to get people to treat me differently in the game in order to gain an advantage. Whether or not I am male or female is irrelevant, as I never allude to my age and gender in any way whatsoever, in the game or on the forums. As it has absolutely no bearing on anything I do or say, it is none of anyone elses business. I do find it amusing that it has become a topic for speculation on here though. So in summary, the 'is astra a guy or a girl' topic is completely separate from the 'did astra borrow and not return an item from someone' debate. Both topics originated at different times and for different reasons.


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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Need an expert please... Reply #22 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 8:10am	Print Post
	Astraghal wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 6:53am: I don't know who you are, or the collective 'we' you are referring to. I'm not sure that you understand the mechanics of this forum. This forum started as a refuge for an internet bully clique who got banned from the ddo forums for abusing and belittling other posters. Through this forum they have formed a loose social network for the purpose of singling out individuals for harassment and defamation in the game and on here. One of the rites of passage for gaining entry into this cadre, is to pursue a vendetta against particular individuals deemed worthy targets, in the hope of generating enough drama to keep the heat off yourself and become accepted as a fully fledged member of the inner circle. This can include the complete fabrication of stories designed to call a marked individuals integrity into question. It's a kind of gang mentality and as we know from real life, people who subscribe to it are usually insecure, bitter, lonely people who are seeking to empower themselves through the social heirarchy of the gang, because they are angry at their lack of power in the real world. As far as this applies to me and madcow430, his outright lie regarding me borrowing and not returning an item, was an attempt by him to get on side with the cool kids. A lot of them go along with it, but they know that I know, that they know that it's not really true. This is a nice little fantasy but the reality is that at every fucking pass you have proven yourself to be a compete and utter fucking tool; from posting gay porn in threads to calling out people on trades for not letting you rip them off. You are the biggest fuckfurter (tm) on these boards. All other fuckfurters (tm) are measured against you. You live in a fantasy world where people attack you as part of some collective plan. Really? When your head hits the pillow is that what you truly believe...if so seek professional help. Own up to the fact that you are an dousecanoe and you might actually get somewhere. If everyone here is such a fucking loser why do you keep dragging your pretend to be female hairy ass in here. Why do you keep whoring for attention? Did mommy not breast feed you long enough? Honestly, you are fucking pathetic...

	Nevynn wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 11:38pm: Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment. Calvet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:18pm: I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.� I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all. Quote: Eladiun is an awful person
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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Need an expert please... Reply #23 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 8:42am	Print Post
	Is this all about +7 armor bracers? I will be honest... the walls and walls of text were killing me. I gave up. The drama seems to be a little on the low side. Fact of the matter is, if you give an item to anyone that you havent known for a while and expect to get it back: and

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Madcow430 Shroud Slacker Offline I have Mad Cow Disease Posts: 1207 Location: Arizona Joined: Jul 4^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Need an expert please... Reply #24 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 8:43am	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 6:26am: It was meant for woody, not you� � I will rearrange the post to make that more clear. Yet, I guess it kind of applies eh? now my post just doesnt sound right anymore... tis a real shame. My bad... Totally missed that. My reading comprehension while tired = low. I was actually surprised there were new posts in here. As far as Astraghal going right back to the 'you must be lying' knee jerk, I addressed that earlier in this thread. I've given up on this being a advice thread really. But if one were inclined to comment on the original subject, I've rolled up this toon as a 32 point build and taken it to 20. Still trying to get him equipped, but I'm hoping riding the raid train will further assist that. I like him so much that I've passed most of my decent non raid gear to him. http://my.ddo.com/character/khyber/licoricewhip/ Got him some con op goggles, and an earth grab/hp cloak which is in the works. Still need one supreme shard to finish it. Should put him at 517hp with another 10hp from Argo favor when I get there. I'm thinking that Lighning2 khopeshes would be nice for him to have until I can score and upgrade some Chaosblades.


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