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Pallai Stormreaver Piker Offline Keeper of the Rangersauce Posts: 745 Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	What weapon? Sep 12^th, 2010 at 6:56am	Print Post
	Trying to figure out the best weapon for my Battle Cleric. After much tweaking and too many LRs to count, she'll be 12 CLR, 6 FTR, (and either 2 ROG/MNK for evasion or an additional 2 CLR levels...not sure yet) She uses two handers. Greataxe, Falchion or Greatsword? I'm thinking either Greataxe or Falchion for the crits... Second question- why the fuck do ppl use Greatswords to begin with? Racial boni?

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Visty Ex Member	Re: What weapon? Reply #1 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 7:58am	Print Post
	are you dwarf? then greataxe are you elf? then falchion are you something else? greatsword why? because GS does more damage


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Hi Welcome King of Trolls Offline Drama chips... now in Argonnessen Apple flavor! Posts: 2759 Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What weapon? Reply #2 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 10:55am	Print Post
	Seems like the wider crit range on falchion would pull it ahead, now that epic SoS is nerfed hard.

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Pallai Stormreaver Piker Offline Keeper of the Rangersauce Posts: 745 Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What weapon? Reply #3 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 11:01am	Print Post
	Quote: are you dwarf? then greataxe are you elf? then falchion are you something else? greatsword why? because GS does more damage Oh, sorry.... Itsa Human.

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Fuck Off The Big Fuck Offline My favorite word is Fuck. Fuck, fuck, fuck. Posts: 1284 Location: Fuckville Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Re: What weapon? Reply #4 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 1:32pm	Print Post
	If you are looking to also get wisdom bonus from monk, the you would need to be unarmed or use monk specific weapons. Rogue would be better to get the evasion.

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Strakeln Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Lumberjack Posts: 12345 Joined: Jun 27^th, 2009	Re: What weapon? Reply #5 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 2:17pm	Print Post
	Fuck Off wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 1:32pm: If you are looking to also get wisdom bonus from monk, the you would need to be unarmed or use monk specific weapons.� Rogue would be better to get the evasion. Ummm, clarify please.� Because if I'm understanding what you wrote, you are incorrect.� Wisdom bonus applies to AC regardless of what weapons you are wielding. That's the entire reason for 1-monk splash builds like the exploiter or the 13/6/1 rog/rgr/mnk. (Also, that has been clarified as WAI by devs multiple times).
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Fuck Off The Big Fuck Offline My favorite word is Fuck. Fuck, fuck, fuck. Posts: 1284 Location: Fuckville Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Re: What weapon? Reply #6 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 2:54pm	Print Post
	Strakeln wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 2:17pm: Ummm, clarify please.� Because if I'm understanding what you wrote, you are incorrect.� Wisdom bonus applies to AC regardless of what weapons you are wielding.� That's the entire reason for 1-monk splash builds like the exploiter or the 13/6/1 rog/rgr/mnk. (Also, that has been clarified as WAI by devs multiple times). It was my understanding that if it isn't a monk weapon, they will be uncentered so the bonus won't apply. If it doesn't matter then I won't have to look for all those kamas for my clonk and can just ues all my normal items.

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Visty Ex Member	Re: What weapon? Reply #7 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 3:33pm	Print Post
	Fuck Off wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 2:54pm: It was my understanding that if it isn't a monk weapon, they will be uncentered so the bonus won't apply. If it doesn't matter then I won't have to look for all those kamas for my clonk and can just ues all my normal items. the wis ac and the centered ac bonus dont care if you are centered or not


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Axeman Waterworks Kobold Offline ESAD Posts: 140 Location: Misery Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What weapon? Reply #8 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 7:29pm	Print Post
	Monk wis bonus to ac is a class feature and does not require you to be centered, hence all the XXXXX/monk builds


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Razcar Dragon Raider Offline Jag �lskar Drama! Posts: 264 Location: Sverige Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What weapon? Reply #9 - Sep 13^th, 2010 at 4:30am	Print Post
	Fuck Off wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 2:54pm: It was my understanding that if it isn't a monk weapon, they will be uncentered so the bonus won't apply. If it doesn't matter then I won't have to look for all those kamas for my clonk and can just ues all my normal items. It's like the others are saying for the Wis AC bonus, but if you want to use other monk-shit like the stances (+2 Wis for example) you need to be centered. So only monk weapons then (no shield, no armour).


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Pallai Stormreaver Piker Offline Keeper of the Rangersauce Posts: 745 Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What weapon? Reply #10 - Sep 13^th, 2010 at 6:30am	Print Post
	I don't care about Monk weapons- went that way on my Clonk--- For the sake of this discussion, I'm asking between the available Two-Handers: Falchion, Greatsword, and Greataxe. Everyone in-game seems to run around with G-Axes, but most people are telling me to use a Greatsword, which I why I'm confused- disparity between what I see in game vs. advice given.

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Visty Ex Member	Re: What weapon? Reply #11 - Sep 13^th, 2010 at 6:55am	Print Post
	once at a time GA were better cause they swung faster. now GS are better


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Bacab Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 60 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2010	Re: What weapon? Reply #12 - Sep 13^th, 2010 at 9:03am	Print Post
	I don't see how Great Sword are better than Great Axes. Unless of course you bring in the SoS and ESoS arguement.


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popejubal Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline fnord Posts: 6364 Location: Argo Joined: Aug 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What weapon? Reply #13 - Sep 13^th, 2010 at 9:51am	Print Post
	Bacab wrote on Sep 13^th, 2010 at 9:03am: I don't see how Great Sword are better than Great Axes. Unless of course you bring in the SoS and ESoS arguement. As far as Greensteel goes, GS and GAxe both look the same in profile - GAxe gets two extra hits worth of damage in 20 rolls from crits and GSword gets two extra hits worth of damage in 20 rolls from crits. Actually, with a Bloodstone, a Gsword will get an extra 6 damage over the course of 20 swings because you get +6x2x2 instead of the +6x3 that the Greataxe gets. That +6 damage from a Bloodstone total over the course of 20 swings is pretty miniscule, however.

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Alekx VoD Slasher Offline Argonnessen Posts: 1895 Location: NYC Joined: Aug 21^st, 2009	Re: What weapon? Reply #14 - Sep 13^th, 2010 at 10:01am	Print Post
	pew pew pew hi pallai

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Visty Ex Member	Re: What weapon? Reply #15 - Sep 13^th, 2010 at 10:02am	Print Post
	Bacab wrote on Sep 13^th, 2010 at 9:03am: I don't see how Great Sword are better than Great Axes. Unless of course you bring in the SoS and ESoS arguement. do the math and you will see it its not by much, but GS is better


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Stanley Nicholas Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 128 Joined: Aug 15^th, 2010	Re: What weapon? Reply #16 - Sep 13^th, 2010 at 10:35am	Print Post
	They would be very similar, within a couple points of damage of each other, except when beating on a held enemy. In that case, the axe is far superior.


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Pallai Stormreaver Piker Offline Keeper of the Rangersauce Posts: 745 Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What weapon? Reply #17 - Sep 13^th, 2010 at 12:36pm	Print Post
	Alekx wrote on Sep 13^th, 2010 at 10:01am: pew pew pew hi pallai pew pew pew Hi, Alex! waves

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