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Ranger/Fighter build advice
Dec 21st, 2010 at 12:29pm
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So, I'm considering TR'ing my main, Talrok, to remedy the many mistakes that come about from capping an original toon (and going for Deepwoods Sniper in the process Cheesy ).  I'm pretty happy with some of the synergies of my current class split, and want to try to re-create it with improvements from what I've learned over the last year. 

Since I'm nowhere near an expert on DDO character builds, I wanted to ask for the critique and advice of those here. 

I have two options to pursue, both of which are based on a human Tempest II/Kensei I. 

The first option retains my current 14/6 ranger/fighter split.  It has the benefit of 4th level spells, with slightly better saves and sneaking ability.  I know that warhammers are sub-optimal, but they don't suck and I have a lot invested in warhammers (MinII, LitII, plus many randoms), so I'm going to stick with 'em.

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Talrok
Level 20 Neutral Good Human Male
(6 Fighter \ 14 Ranger)
Hit Points: 324
Spell Points: 165
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 15
Will: 7

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)

Strength             18                 23                   26
Dexterity            14                 14                   16
Constitution         16                 16                   17
Intelligence          8                  8                    8
Wisdom               10                 10                   10
Charisma              8                  8                    8


                  Starting            Ending         
                 Base Skills        Base Skills      
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)       

Balance               3                  9            
Bluff                -1                 -1            
Concentration         3                  3            
Diplomacy            -1                 -1            
Disable Device       n/a               n/a            
Haggle               -1                 -1            
Heal                  0                  0            
Hide                  6                 26            
Intimidate           -1                 -1            
Jump                  8                 26            
Listen                4                  8            
Move Silently         6                 26            
Open Lock             n/a               n/a          
Perform              n/a               n/a            
Repair               -1                 -1            
Search               -1                 -1            
Spot                  4                 19            
Swim                  4                  8            
Tumble                3                  7            
Use Magic Device     n/a               n/a            

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I


Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility
Feat: (Automatic) Diehard


Level 4 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Swamp Lore I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I


Level 5 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Resistance I
Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild I


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Manyshot
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I


Level 7 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 8 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Human Versatility III


Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Wild Empathy
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 10 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II


Level 11 (Ranger)
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Enhancement: Human Versatility IV


Level 12 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III


Level 13 (Ranger)
Feat: (Automatic) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Precise Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Precise Shot
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Constitution I


Level 14 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest II


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II


Level 17 (Fighter)


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Luck of Heroes
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Quick Draw
Enhancement: Kensei Warhammer Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I


Level 19 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II


Level 20 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost III
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage IV


« Last Edit: Dec 21st, 2010 at 12:33pm by Schmoe »  

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Re: Ranger/Fighter build advice
Reply #1 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 12:31pm
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The second build goes to a 12/8 ranger/fighter split.  It picks up Stunning Blow and slightly more offense in exchange for the 4th level ranger spells and ranger saves.


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.8.0
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Talrok
Level 20 Neutral Good Human Male
(8 Fighter \ 12 Ranger)
Hit Points: 328
Spell Points: 135
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 14
Will: 7

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)

Strength             18                 23                   26
Dexterity            14                 14                   16
Constitution         16                 16                   17
Intelligence          8                  8                    8
Wisdom               10                 10                   10
Charisma              8                  8                    8


                  Starting            Ending         
                 Base Skills        Base Skills      
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)       

Balance               3                  9            
Bluff                -1                 -1            
Concentration         3                  3            
Diplomacy            -1                 -1            
Disable Device       n/a               n/a            
Haggle               -1                 -1            
Heal                  0                  0            
Hide                  6                 21            
Intimidate           -1                 -1            
Jump                  8                 29            
Listen                4                  8            
Move Silently         6                 22            
Open Lock             n/a               n/a          
Perform              n/a               n/a            
Repair               -1                 -1            
Search               -1                 -1            
Spot                  4                 17            
Swim                  4                  8            
Tumble                3                  7            
Use Magic Device     n/a               n/a            

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I


Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility
Feat: (Automatic) Diehard


Level 4 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Swamp Lore I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I


Level 5 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Resistance I
Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild I


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Manyshot
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I


Level 7 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 8 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Human Versatility III


Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Wild Empathy
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 10 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II


Level 11 (Ranger)
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Enhancement: Human Versatility IV


Level 12 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III


Level 13 (Ranger)
Feat: (Automatic) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Precise Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Precise Shot
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Constitution I


Level 14 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest II


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II


Level 17 (Fighter)


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Luck of Heroes
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Stunning Blow
Enhancement: Kensei Warhammer Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) I


Level 19 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III


Level 20 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Quick Draw
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) II
Enhancement: Fighter Warhammer Specialization I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II



Any comments or advice?  Does one build look significantly more fun than the other?  Any changes you might recommend or gotchas I'm overlooking?
  

"As my windshield melts, and my tears evaporate,
Leaving only charcoal to defend -
Finally I understand the feelings of the few,
Ashes and diamonds, foe and friend, we were all equal in the end."

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Re: Ranger/Fighter build advice
Reply #2 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 1:01pm
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If you check on the other place, DarkStar came up with something similar that does something similar, going AA and using Heavy Picks and/or Khopesh when on Manyshot timer/boss fights. Could easily be modded to use Warhammers, or you could build new GS weaponry to use in conjuction with them.

Link is here: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=289591
  
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Re: Ranger/Fighter build advice
Reply #3 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 8:56pm
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If you check on the other place, DarkStar came up with something similar that does something similar, going AA and using Heavy Picks and/or Khopesh when on Manyshot timer/boss fights. Could easily be modded to use Warhammers, or you could build new GS weaponry to use in conjuction with them.

Link is here: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=289591


Thanks for the advice.  That looks like an AA build, though, and I'm trying more for a Tempest/Kensai build.  Still, there's some interesting stuff to think about.
  

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Finally I understand the feelings of the few,
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Re: Ranger/Fighter build advice
Reply #4 - Dec 23rd, 2010 at 11:06pm
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Schmoe wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 8:56pm:
Thanks for the advice.  That looks like an AA build, though, and I'm trying more for a Tempest/Kensai build.  Still, there's some interesting stuff to think about.


Every Tempest build still has manyshot automatically, and it's a shame to waste it =P

Try this idea, remember the Monster from pre-U5? try that with whatever race you want (most do WF, but any race works with the split), spec for whatever weapon style you want.

It's still an insane amount of DPS that includes the weapons you want, and the speed of TWF, with some bonuses =)
  
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