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FVS TR
May 6th, 2011 at 7:12am
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This is what I was thinking of doing for my fvs tr on my sorc.  Remember, will be largely soloing or grouping with people I know that can handle themselves.  Unless I feel like letting a pug experience of the horror of me lvling a healing class.  Trust me, I get pretty pissed when my healer is outrunning barbs or monks.  Obvious exception is when a fvs turns  level 17.


If you think you have some tweaks to improve it, let me know ~ couple things first:
1.  I am not grabbing quicken, I have argued this I think twice now here.  It isn't happening, get over it and move on.

2.  Neutralize poison should not be on any spell list to my concern.  It comes in pots.  If someone even thinks of suggesting it, get off your ass, spend some plat, buy some pots or get an immunity item.  I can, so can you.


Here we go....

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Level 20 True Neutral Warforged Male
(20 Favored Soul)
Hit Points: 362
Spell Points: 1904

BAB: 15/15/20/2525
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 11
Will: 10

              Starting    Feat/Enhancement
Abilities    Base Stats    Modified Stats
(36 Point)    (Level 1)      (Level 20)
Strength           18                23
Dexterity           8                 8
Constitution       19                20
Intelligence       10                10
Wisdom              6                 6
Charisma           11                13

Level 1 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Adamantine Body
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Lord of Blades
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer

Level 2 (Favored Soul)

Level 3 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness

Level 4 (Favored Soul)

Level 5 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire

Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting

Level 7 (Favored Soul)

Level 8 (Favored Soul)

Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting

Level 10 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid

Level 11 (Favored Soul)

Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons

Level 13 (Favored Soul)

Level 14 (Favored Soul)

Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Electricity
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack

Level 16 (Favored Soul)

Level 17 (Favored Soul)

Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting

Level 19 (Favored Soul)

Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Diety) Favored Soul Damage Reduction: Adamantine
Enhancement: Favored Soul Ascendency: Lord of Blades
Enhancement: Bladesworn Transformation
Enhancement: Favored Soul Greatsword Specialization I
Enhancement: Favored Soul GGreatsword Specialization II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
Enhancement: Improved Concentration III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery III
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction I
Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction II
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack III
Enhancement: Warforged Great Weapon Aptitude I
Enhancement: Warforged Great Weapon Aptitude II
Enhancement: Warforged Great Weapon Aptitude III



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Err, for items I have full faith in what I have, which is everything except the torc.  Literally, all 5 bank slots full and a few inv bags when I empty out the tr cache  for the one doing the tr.


So, hammer away.

.......................


EDIT:  The build changed!  I went all melee.  First thing that hits me is the healing power, nowhere close to what my radiant servant can do.  Once again, I am posting this cuz I want the faster run to lvl 20, sit there for a couple weeks, then tr again.  FVS are not my things.  A couple other changes, I did all the enhancements at the end so stainer can see em all, and I am open for discussion on spells and feats.  Except the aforementioned, obv.
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Re: FVS TR
Reply #1 - May 6th, 2011 at 9:37am
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I have a human FvS at lvl 14 that is a evoker build and a WF FvS TR1 at lvl 19. Both can heal anything, but I would have to say the WF is better at soloing. That may be because I am not a great player though.

Are you thinking about the PRE? I have that on both my FvS and it seems to work well.

Is that how you are taking your enhancements, or do you adjust it as you are leveling? I like the wand and scroll mastery at lower levels if I can fit it in.

I have said many times that I am not a good character builder, so take what I say with a grain of salt.
  

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Reply #2 - May 6th, 2011 at 9:57am
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Epoch wrote on May 6th, 2011 at 7:12am:
This is what I was thinking of doing for my fvs tr on my sorc.  Remember, will be largely soloing or grouping with people I know that can handle themselves.  Unless I feel like letting a pug experience of the horror of me lvling a healing class.  Trust me, I get pretty pissed when my healer is outrunning barbs or monks.  Obvious exception is when a fvs turns  level 17.


If you think you have some tweaks to improve it, let me know ~ couple things first:
1.  I am not grabbing quicken, I have argued this I think twice now here.  It isn't happening, get over it and move on.

2.  Neutralize poison should not be on any spell list to my concern.  It comes in pots.  If someone even thinks of suggesting it, get off your ass, spend some plat, buy some pots or get an immunity item.  I can, so can you.


Here we go....

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Hit Points: 302
Spell Points: 1904

BAB: 15/15/20/2525
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 11
Will: 20

              Starting    Feat/Enhancement
Abilities    Base Stats    Modified Stats
(36 Point)    (Level 1)      (Level 20)
Strength           15                15
Dexterity           8                 8
Constitution       16                16
Intelligence        8                 8
Wisdom             18                26
Charisma           10                12

Level 1 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Silver Flame
Feat: (Human Bonus) Least Dragonmark of Passage
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Spell (1): Nightshield
Spell (1): Nimbus of Light

Level 2 (Favored Soul)
Spell (1): Command

Level 3 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Spell (1): Remove Fear

Level 4 (Favored Soul)
Spell (2): Resist Energy

Level 5 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid
Spell (2): Soundburst

Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell
Spell (3): Searing Light
Enhancement: Silver Flame Exorcism
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Wisdom I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Smiting I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery I

Level 7 (Favored Soul)
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (3): Mass Aid

Level 8 (Favored Soul)
Spell (4): Holy Smite

Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration
Spell (2): Lesser Restoration
Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement

Level 10 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
Spell (5): Greater Command

Level 11 (Favored Soul)
Spell (3): Water Breathing
Spell (5): Stalwart Pact
Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds

Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell
Spell (6): Blade Barrier

Level 13 (Favored Soul)
Spell (4): Neutralize Poison
Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds
Spell (6): Heal 
Enhancement: Favored Soul Angel of Vengeance I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Angel of Vengeance II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Smiting I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Smiting II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II

Level 14 (Favored Soul)
Spell (7): Destruction

Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Cold
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Penetration
Spell (5): Break Enchantment
Spell (6): Cometfall
Spell (7): Resurrection

Level 16 (Favored Soul)
Spell (8): Death Pact

Level 17 (Favored Soul)
Spell (7): Mass Protection From Elements
Spell (8): Mass Death Ward

Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Evocation
Spell (9): Implosion
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Smiting II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Smiting III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Smiting III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV

Level 19 (Favored Soul)
Spell (8): Mass Cure Critical Wounds
Spell (9): Summon Monster IX

Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Diety) Favored Soul Damage Reduction: Silver
Spell (9): Mass Heal
Enhancement: Favored Soul Ascendency: Silver Flame
Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery III

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Err, for items I have full faith in what I have, which is everything except the torc.  Literally, all 5 bank slots full and a few inv bags when I empty out the tr cache  for the one doing the tr.

Also I will be doing the one with the longsword at first for a few levels then using the free feat exchange later and the extra dragonblood spell pot thingy to rework spells.  Hence the starting 15 str.  This character will probably only run a few raids inguild at cap just to see how it works, then probably tr again. 

So, hammer away.


If you are doing a build just to tr with do a melee wf fvs.  Your tr time will be decrease by aprox 20 hours of game time.
  
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Re: FVS TR
Reply #3 - May 6th, 2011 at 10:09am
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stainer wrote on May 6th, 2011 at 9:37am:
I have a human FvS at lvl 14 that is a evoker build and a WF FvS TR1 at lvl 19. Both can heal anything, but I would have to say the WF is better at soloing. That may be because I am not a great player though.

Interesting

Are you thinking about the PRE? I have that on both my FvS and it seems to work well.

Yep, its in the enhancements area  Smiley

Is that how you are taking your enhancements, or do you adjust it as you are leveling? I like the wand and scroll mastery at lower levels if I can fit it in.

Nah I was just grabbing things as I went because I hate having a giant list at level 20.

I have said many times that I am not a good character builder, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

  

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I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.  #epochsfamiliarFTW

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Re: FVS TR
Reply #4 - May 6th, 2011 at 10:10am
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If you are doing a build just to tr with do a melee wf fvs.  Your tr time will be decrease by aprox 20 hours of game time. 



How so?

Curiosity really.  FVS are not strong points.  My cleric is also not an evoker build, full radiant servant and uses mass inflict/harm/bb  for dps.

Also, this means I will have to drop a feat for quicken if I go melee.  As I have put in many sidenotes I do believe it is essential if you are melee clericing.  Should be easy enough since I wont heighten or maximize.

I also heard that you dont need the gthf if you go wf fvs lord of blades.  Why is this?

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Reply #5 - May 6th, 2011 at 10:16am
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Epoch wrote on May 6th, 2011 at 10:09am:


About my WF FvS. I TR'd from a Sorc without making any GS equipment, any tomes, or any planning really. Without the twink items, this was still a super easy build to level as a TR. Again, I am not a power leveler. I am so slow it would make many of you cry.

I took the Greatsword enhancements, healing enhancements, PRE prereqs, WF CON and Healers Friend II. Max Str, Con rest into Cha. I have Bladesworn Transformation, but never use it, since I am not really a "tank" build. I will heal in the center of combat though. You would probably build it different, but I don't think it can be screwed up no matter what you or I do with the build.
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Feats I took.
Empower Healing
Extend Spell - for divine power/favor and recitation
Toughness
Maximize Spell
Quicken Spell - probably could swap for something but it is nice when healing from combat
Power Attack
Improved Critical: Slashing
« Last Edit: May 6th, 2011 at 10:21am by stainer »  

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Reply #6 - May 6th, 2011 at 10:21am
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Epoch wrote on May 6th, 2011 at 10:10am:
How so?

Curiosity really.  FVS are not strong points.  My cleric is also not an evoker build, full radiant servant and uses mass inflict/harm/bb  for dps.

Also, this means I will have to drop a feat for quicken if I go melee.  As I have put in many sidenotes I do believe it is essential if you are melee clericing.  Should be easy enough since I wont heighten or maximize.

I also heard that you dont need the gthf if you go wf fvs lord of blades.  Why is this?


You'll never have enough mana to be able to put out the dps of a melee fvs allll the way to level 12 (Melee fvs dps is probally 2-3x as much dps / completion time when soloing) and even then your speed will not improve by more then 20% at max if you are full caster spec at level 12.

In short Melee fvs 1-12 levels up about 2x as fast because of ability to complete quests and mana bar.  level 12 - 20 casting fvs is only 10-20% faster.

Quicken is less useful on a melee fvs than a casting fvs.  I'm not going into this with you however.

You don't need GTHF because of the fuck tards that think that they are putting out enough dps and doing enough healing. (You don't need it but if you don't want to be noob)  The guys that give melee fvs's a bad name.
  
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Re: FVS TR
Reply #7 - May 6th, 2011 at 10:38am
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You'll never have enough mana to be able to put out the dps of a melee fvs allll the way to level 12 (Melee fvs dps is probally 2-3x as much dps / completion time when soloing) and even then your speed will not improve by more then 20% at max if you are full caster spec at level 12.

In short Melee fvs 1-12 levels up about 2x as fast because of ability to complete quests and mana bar.  level 12 - 20 casting fvs is only 10-20% faster.

Quicken is less useful on a melee fvs than a casting fvs.  I'm not going into this with you however.

You don't need GTHF because of the fuck tards that think that they are putting out enough dps and doing enough healing. (You don't need it but if you don't want to be noob)  The guys that give melee fvs's a bad name. 



Yeah I wasnt to sure how the boasting for the evoker fvs was so great since the lack of aoe spells (since the only real one is bb, but what till then?).  I was questioning it rather greatly. 

Your sentence confused me (nearing the end of work and im pretty tired).  I am going to assume you said whomever told me that is a noob and dont listen to them.
  

OnePercenter wrote on May 15th, 2014 at 9:41am:
I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.  #epochsfamiliarFTW

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Reply #8 - May 6th, 2011 at 12:22pm
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I am about to start my 4th life on my FvS.  She's leveled 3 times now.  Twice as a melee FvS and once as an evoker/caster.  The melees were much faster.  I agree.  Even the 36 point TR as a melee went faster than the 34 point TR as an evoker.

I'm a twf 18/2 FvS/Monk build when I do melee leveling, though, so my feats look like this:

Monk
Toughness
TWF

Human:
Power Attack

Levels
Empower Healing
Maximize
Extend
Quicken
ITWF
GTWF
IC: Slash

I'm not sure that with the new Divine Punishment and PrE line (none of which needs DC's) that you don't have enough dps out of searing light, Holy Smite, Divine Punishment, BB, Cometfall and the archon.
  
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Reply #9 - May 6th, 2011 at 12:25pm
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Epoch wrote on May 6th, 2011 at 10:38am:
Yeah I wasnt to sure how the boasting for the evoker fvs was so great since the lack of aoe spells (since the only real one is bb, but what till then?).  I was questioning it rather greatly. 

Your sentence confused me (nearing the end of work and im pretty tired).  I am going to assume you said whomever told me that is a noob and dont listen to them.


You are not tired.  The end of that post was confused.  It looks like he started typing.  Left, got drunk and came back a few hours later and tried to finish and post it real quick.

Right about the time he said "I'm not going to get into it with you" it went downhill quickly.
  
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Reply #11 - May 7th, 2011 at 1:21am
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Epoch wrote on May 6th, 2011 at 7:12am:
2.  Neutralize poison should not be on any spell list to my concern.  It comes in pots.  If someone even thinks of suggesting it, get off your ass, spend some plat, buy some pots or get an immunity item.  I can, so can you.


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Level 13 (Favored Soul)
Spell (4): Neutralize Poison

Err, for items I have full faith in what I have, which is everything except the torc.  Literally, all 5 bank slots full and a few inv bags when I empty out the tr cache  for the one doing the tr.

Also I will be doing the one with the longsword at first for a few levels then using the free feat exchange later and the extra dragonblood spell pot thingy to rework spells.  Hence the starting 15 str.  This character will probably only run a few raids inguild at cap just to see how it works, then probably tr again. 

So, hammer away.




Well, I think I see one problem with the build. Not sure what it is, though. Maybe if I look carefully, I'll figure it out. Wink

Divine Power might be worth holding instead, just in case you want to hop into the fray sometime.

Of course, if you are just wanting to be cheap and save the platinum or two on potions, that's fine as well. Wink

If you have a Conc Opp, then the melee idea might hold some more merit, even without a torc.
  
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Re: FVS TR
Reply #12 - May 7th, 2011 at 5:23am
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Siver wrote on May 7th, 2011 at 1:21am:
Well, I think I see one problem with the build. Not sure what it is, though. Maybe if I look carefully, I'll figure it out. Wink

Divine Power might be worth holding instead, just in case you want to hop into the fray sometime.

Of course, if you are just wanting to be cheap and save the platinum or two on potions, that's fine as well. Wink

If you have a Conc Opp, then the melee idea might hold some more merit, even without a torc.



Holy crap, cant believe I did that.  I even looked around the spell list and couldnt see anything I would take up or down from it via at least 3 spells.  I must of been really out of it.  Hmm, maybe my subconscious doesn't agree with me. 

Yeah, I have 2 weapons, and 5 equippable conc opps.  Back when they all worked like a charm and there was nothing better to wear  Cheesy


Changed my build to melee.  Woot, my SoS is gonna rock some socks for fun.  Anyways, check it out, tear it apart.
« Last Edit: May 7th, 2011 at 5:26am by Epoch »  

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Reply #13 - May 8th, 2011 at 8:49am
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Reply #14 - May 8th, 2011 at 1:07pm
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If you get a crit on a healing spell, that's certainly nice, but you're going to need to cast your Cures and Heals as if they weren't going to crit because people will die if you're counting on the crit and it doesn't happen.

I took Prayer of Life I and Prayer of Incredible Life I on my FvS just because they were so cheap and an occasional crit is nice, but I didn't spend any more than that because even when both of those lines are maxed out, you can't count on them.

I absolutely think that Favored Soul Life Magic I/II/III/IV is a must-have and I think that Wand and Scroll Mastery I/II/III are an outstanding value (and IV is worth taking if you can squeeze in the 4 AP).

Empower Healing, Favored Soul Life Magic IV and Greater Potency VII with the Superior Ardor VIII clickies from Amrath have been more than enough to take care of all my healing needs. 

I move constantly in combat, so I didn't bother to take the THF chain.  If you stand still frequently, then those feats obviously going to be better for you than they are for me.
  

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Reply #15 - May 9th, 2011 at 12:51am
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popejubal wrote on May 8th, 2011 at 1:07pm:
If you get a crit on a healing spell, that's certainly nice, but you're going to need to cast your Cures and Heals as if they weren't going to crit because people will die if you're counting on the crit and it doesn't happen.

I took Prayer of Life I and Prayer of Incredible Life I on my FvS just because they were so cheap and an occasional crit is nice, but I didn't spend any more than that because even when both of those lines are maxed out, you can't count on them.

I absolutely think that Favored Soul Life Magic I/II/III/IV is a must-have and I think that Wand and Scroll Mastery I/II/III are an outstanding value (and IV is worth taking if you can squeeze in the 4 AP).

Empower Healing, Favored Soul Life Magic IV and Greater Potency VII with the Superior Ardor VIII clickies from Amrath have been more than enough to take care of all my healing needs. 

I move constantly in combat, so I didn't bother to take the THF chain.  If you stand still frequently, then those feats obviously going to be better for you than they are for me.



Yeah I move around a lot on my guy as well- he isn't a tank so it isnt like I am going to standing there trying to get aggro of anything. Didn't really occur to me though till you said it.  That should free up 6 ap and 3 feats.  Empower healing as one - not sure for the other 2.
  

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Reply #16 - May 9th, 2011 at 8:16am
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Epoch wrote on May 9th, 2011 at 12:51am:
Yeah I move around a lot on my guy as well- he isn't a tank so it isnt like I am going to standing there trying to get aggro of anything. Didn't really occur to me though till you said it.  That should free up 6 ap and 3 feats.  Empower healing as one - not sure for the other 2.


I also took Maximise for Blade Barrier and some bullshit feat that starts with a Q.  Can't remember exactly what it was.

The Maximise really is only for Blade Barrier, but it has actually worked out really well for me because it makes a lot of quests like Sins of Attrition faster and more entertaining.  My spell DC's really do suck ass, but the only downside to Maximise has occasionally not remembering to turn it off if I'm going to heal a raid.

And I don't have Quicken on most of the time, but it does get turned on when I'm going to raid heal because I'm not good enough at anticipating damage before it happens to be able to depend on Mass Heal without it.  I'm certainly not telling you to take the feat, just mentioning what I ended up doing with it.  Mass Heal and Blade Barrier were the two reasons for me to take the spell before U9.  Now there is only Mass Heal.
  

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