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Orberon
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Building an AA-FvS
Jun 24th, 2011 at 11:34am
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Ok, I want some advice and thought I would ask here, instead of "there" (and yes I know there are a couple threads about this already).

Anyway, I have an AA, he was my first toon and has every named bow in the game as well as 5 GS ones, he is geared pretty well, but Iam bored with him so I want to turn him into a FvS. My plan is to TR  him into a gimmpy sorc for the past life feat then as soon as I hit 20, TR him into a FvS.

So here is my finail build, let me know what you guys think, and what changes you would think would be a good idea.

One note, I have the Tomes listed in the build already.

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Level 20 Neutral Good Half-Elf Male
(20 Favored Soul)
Hit Points: 342
Spell Points: 2154
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 20
Reflex: 20
Will: 22

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement            
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats - w/gear
(36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             12                    14 / 20
Dexterity            14                    20 / 28
Constitution         16                    20 / 26
Intelligence          8                    10 / 10
Wisdom               15                    23 / 30
Charisma             15                    22 / 28

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11


Level 1 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Silver Flame
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Keen Senses
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Mixed Heritage
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Social Graces (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I


Level 2 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery I


Level 3 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Feat: (Automatic) Child of the Silver Flame
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Smiting I


Level 4 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: DEX
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II


Level 5 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom I


Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
Enhancement: Silver Flame Exorcism


Level 7 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Angel of Vengeance I


Level 8 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II


Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting III


Level 10 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III


Level 11 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma II


Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Feat: (Selected) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Beloved of the Silver Flame
Enhancement: Favored Soul Angel of Vengeance II


Level 13 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Smiting I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III


Level 14 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom II


Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Electricity
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot


Level 16 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: CON


Level 17 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Automatic) Leap Of Faith


Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Arcane Prodigy
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Favored Soul Longbow Specialization I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration I


Level 19 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II


Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Feat: (Diety) Favored Soul Damage Reduction: Silver
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Favored Soul Ascendency: Silver Flame
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life II


At level 20 he will have 497 hp, and 2554 sp before buffs.

The only real drawbacks I see are, I lose quicken, empower healing and precise shot.

On my other 20lvl FvS, I do not have empower healing and do not use quick very much, so those two may not be that big of a deal.

Let me know how / if I can improve this build.
Thanks.
  
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Re: Building an AA-FvS
Reply #1 - Jun 24th, 2011 at 11:56am
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I think you'll be very disappointed with the AA aspect of such a character.  I think you'll be fine without empower healing, but I haven't played enough healers to comment about quicken. 

For the AA part, you're missing IPS, Bow Str, and imp crit:ranged, all of which should be high priorities.  Also, you really don't need as much dex as you have; some of those build/level points should be going into str (once you have bow str feat).  Also, you don't need any wisdom at all.  Your DCs won't really be high enough to justify caring about wisdom.  Charisma is unimportant also, so long as you have 10-12 starting (for disjunction-proof heal spells). 

For your feat issue:
Splash 2 monk.  You retain level 9 spells, pick up evasion (awesome with your saves/dex), and two very valuable feats.  In this case, you can pick up Power Attack and Bow Str.  Also drop the FvS past life feat (totally not worth it), and pick up Imp Crit:Ranged. 

If you want to fit in IPS, you probably need to drop another fvs level for fighter to fit the feats in. 

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Re: Building an AA-FvS
Reply #2 - Jun 24th, 2011 at 1:24pm
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or take the ranger dil for a decent enough bow str since your str isnt going to be huge anyways and you have the APs to spare. id also probably go some sort of 18/2 or 17/2/1 and lose my lvl 9 spells but become better with a bow and keep wings. would still be a good BB kiting winging pew pew machine. you should really try and fit in IPS and keep quicken. with 3 extra feats you could do both and keep emp healing too. its entirely possible to have 30 in str/dex/casting stat and mid to high 20s con on tr2s with gear.
  
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Re: Building an AA-FvS
Reply #3 - Jun 24th, 2011 at 3:03pm
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you really want to get Bow str, PS(17dex) and IPS(19dex).
as to emp heal >vs Emp I like the Heal spell boost aswell and its cheaper.
  
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Re: Building an AA-FvS
Reply #4 - Jun 24th, 2011 at 3:36pm
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forget it I cant seem to make it look nice
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Re: Building an AA-FvS
Reply #5 - Jun 24th, 2011 at 4:02pm
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Dumping empower heal is fine, dumping quicken is BAD.  Very very very very BAD. 

Without quicken you're forced to use mass cures, which are nowhere near as efficient - this is fine in shrouds.  It's also probably fine in guild runs (depending on WHICH guild you are in).  But if you do any tough content with a less than perfect group, you will want your heals to be as efficient as possible. 

Also, I'm pretty sure quicken is required in eDQ no matter what.
  
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Reply #6 - Jun 24th, 2011 at 5:39pm
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If he goes with the monk splash: Evasion and awesome ref save might let him get through eDQ without quicken.  Not recommended, of course. 

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Re: Building an AA-FvS
Reply #7 - Jun 27th, 2011 at 5:01pm
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Thanks for the help guys, I have decided to drop the idea. It just does not look like I can make it work with everything I want / need it to do.

I am just going to TR back into another AA, focused more on str.
  
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Re: Building an AA-FvS
Reply #8 - Jun 28th, 2011 at 6:30am
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You should TR into a tempest.
  
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Re: Building an AA-FvS
Reply #9 - Jun 28th, 2011 at 10:46am
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Epoch wrote on Jun 28th, 2011 at 6:30am:
You should TR into a tempest.


i agree. the way ranged combat is now its not good enough to devote feats and an entire prestige to it unless its secondary. you wont (and shouldnt) have a bow out enough to justify using AA. better to just be high str tempest and pull out bow everytime manyshot is up and dominate for 20 seconds.
  
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Reply #10 - Jun 28th, 2011 at 12:37pm
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someguy wrote on Jun 28th, 2011 at 10:46am:
i agree. the way ranged combat is now its not good enough to devote feats and an entire prestige to it unless its secondary. you wont (and shouldnt) have a bow out enough to justify using AA. better to just be high str tempest and pull out bow everytime manyshot is up and dominate for 20 seconds.


I'm pretty sure my tempest does better dps in melee than with a bow & manyshot.  Granted, his bow selection is pretty wimpy, and I have up to a second of weapon-swap lag.

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Re: Building an AA-FvS
Reply #11 - Jun 29th, 2011 at 3:50am
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With a proper bow manyshot will outdps melee easily enough.
  
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