woody wrote on Jul 27^th, 2011 at 3:14pm:


Transparency would lead to clarity. What they want is more like ...
fear and ignorance. Ignorance and fear.

woody wrote on Jul 28^th, 2011 at 11:16pm:


You vill respect ze vhip und ze bannings!

As a gesture of goodwill, somebody from Turbine should make my huge collectible bag BtA. Why did you take advantage of me?

In a similar gesture, I have awarded all Turbine employees 1500 Vault points that can be used in the Vault store.

Stanley Nicholas wrote on Jul 29^th, 2011 at 12:50pm:


With the addition of Dispel, Anon and a couple of other members, we are currently giving out "Watch me Post Like a Dumbass - Supreme Tomes" for 1 tp, and we give you another 20 tp as a bonus. It is the gift that keeps on giving.

stainer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2011 at 12:53pm:


for the record Anon. is from Argo and has an axe to grind with AoK or possibly (but not likely) a member of AoK

stainer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2011 at 2:08pm:


Yup, another drop out from the Dispel's School of trolling

rest wrote on Jul 29^th, 2011 at 2:39pm:


We have tons of people that lurk, not just them.

When Turbine's system went tits up for an entire day, Jerry did come here and post about the status. I also know that people may occasionally send a pm or two to different Turbine folks that frequent the forums. I think getting answered would depend on a lot of things, such as topic, how you word your question, etc.

If you do pm one be prepared for "I can't talk about that", "Thanks, I will look into that", "That is covered by our NDA policy", or no response at all.

I will point out that yelling at them, calling them names, or just being rude guarantees they won't respond to you. I have been pretty frustrated with Jerry a time or two, because I see him as our best shot of having an advocate inside of Turbine, since he was so active in the player community before. I get a lot further in a conversation with him when I remember not to call him an asshat.

Hordo wrote on Jul 29^th, 2011 at 3:33pm:


Typing 101 needs to be retaken

woody wrote on Jul 29^th, 2011 at 2:43pm:

special circmstances for special guests, they should communicate if they are here for positive (to us non employee of turbine members) reasons. Complete silence is passive aggressive... no one is expecting 500 posts in under 40 days, only a drama queen with patches of down time at work could do something like that!

JDollar wrote on Jul 29^th, 2011 at 4:16pm:


Mockduck has posted, and a couple of others have posted and you just don't know it. I am not blowing their cover though. I have the same duty to protect their info, as I do yours.

As far as them posting a lot, I guess in some ways that is up to us. I wouldn't expect them to tread into a hostile environment and just start saying hello. Remember, these folks, most of them anyway, are pretty low on the Turbine food chain. They have little real control over things, and could (I am guessing) put their job in jeopardy in many ways. Just keep that in mind when trying to interact. You are asking them to tread into a place where most conversations end in GFY.

stainer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2011 at 4:30pm:


Only a moron would straight up tell them to GFY. I despise lurking for tattle tale reasons, thats what gets people pissed off at any Turbine employees. Them asking for input/interaction is rarely met with hostility from what I have seen. Its secrecy (and I dont mean leaking secrets more like feeding BS to cover ones ass) MAd Floyd, CoDog and others like them seemed to beable to handle some open communication. Expecting the business plan, including plans for content releases etc is unrealistic. All I would ask for is a simple Acknowledgement of "Here I am, I am not a Hostile" If they lurk around after that and lay low its fine. Its the Policing of these forums to police Official forums or the game itsself that I dont want to see. And if that isnt possible they should chose not to participate, and if they cant chose for themselves, someone should chose for them... and that could lead for restrictions to others in their position.

Also if they are posting and interacting and dont want to out themselves I personally have no problem with that, I think those people get it already

stainer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2011 at 4:56pm:

We don't, because that's impossible.
Either they will be allowed to use this site or they will not.  Personally, I agreed fully with the post that Ink made on the subject, and I'm glad you decided to reinstate them.
The bottom line is this: If there's something that you don't want them to see, or trace back to you, then there are places and ways to make sure that it doesn't get traced back to you.
In all other situations, what's the problem?