Kimberlite wrote on Jul 27^th, 2011 at 1:00pm:


I have an updated list of Tor exit nodes. I can block Tor if necessary.

Gornn wrote on Jul 27^th, 2011 at 1:24pm:


Yes. It will probably go back and forth at WB's whims. And of course Turbine is under silence orders and can't tell us what's really going on.

Joe User wrote on Jul 27^th, 2011 at 1:58pm:


Dammit Strakeln! Why couldn't we have thought of something like this?

Kimberlite wrote on Jul 27^th, 2011 at 2:06pm:


I forgot my sarcasm smiley.  _,|,,

There.

Joe User wrote on Jul 27^th, 2011 at 2:22pm:





Hi Creepy Network Dude.

Joe User wrote on Jul 27^th, 2011 at 2:22pm:


We just want to know who they are, not cause them to hire security.

Or freak everyone else out.

Let me point a couple of things out:

Mockduck's job is to police his forums.  He is not policing our forums, but he is following our links to trouble spots o his own.  Are we trying to say he can't do his job if he finds the link from the Vault?  Guess what, that's a no-brainer from his point of view -- he'll take the ban any day of the week.  Him finding it here is just saving him time -- are we going to say he has to find them on his own?  That's not a realistic solution.  Anything on the DDO forums are going to have to follow their rules, or we're going to get hit with the rolled up newspaper.

So where is the dividing line?  And what is the problem?

The problem is that the punishment was excessively harsh for the supposed crime.  Two public links were provided, and ZERO personally identifiable information was transmitted.  The issue is whether or not Vault members are being targetted for excessive moderation because they are on the Vault.  We've asked if this is the case, and I know I don't have an answer to my PM's.  Maybe some of the others of you have gotten some info back, but not me.

If Vault members are going to be treated like every other person on the forums, then I have no problem with them staying.

If Vault members are going to get special treatment, then Turbine's employees should expect the same special treatment from us.

Thus far Turbine has been quite mum on the subject.  Evidence points to us being treated more harshly though.

stainer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2011 at 3:06pm:


Which is just a stupid fucking policy. Yes I understand the need for quite enforcement in some cases but if you let people talk about what happened and display why you took the actions you did you can establish a clear line or code for the users to follow. With the lack of transparency in their enforcement they seem to be policing the forum according to their own whims. The only "beneficial" thing about forbidding the lack of discussion about modding policies is that you dont have to set precedents and that allows you to enforce however you want.

Using their user names doesn't feel right to me. Strakeln used to have them in the reserved names list. There isn't a rule against it. I just don't like it.

Jerry damn well ought to be ashamed of himself over this whole situation. It was a craven and low-class thing to have done, and if I had a vote he'd loose his Vault privileges permanently.

And that's all I have to say on the matter.



I now await the retribution  on the official forums for my saying so with baited breath.

stainer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2011 at 3:17pm:


If you really don't like it I'll change it back. I just changed it because I thought it would be funny, and it is.

I'm going to change it back anyway soon. there is just some thing i want to do sense the opportunity is here first.

rest wrote on Jul 27^th, 2011 at 1:42pm:


Strakeln is the genius.