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Thigmar Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 17 Joined: Dec 20^th, 2010	FVS charisma modifier question Oct 12^th, 2011 at 10:17am	Print Post
	Looking at TR'ing into a Dwarven FVS. I have a question about distributing ability score points specifically with repect to the following: "To learn and cast a spell, a Favored Soul must have a Charisma score equal to at least 10 + spell level." Is this a reference to base ability score, i.e. do I need to ensure that my base Charisma is maxed to cast a lvl 9 spell? Or can I start lower and modify with the items, tomes, enhancements, etc. 10base + 2tome + FVS charisma 3 + 9Cha item would be enough I would think. Besides the obvious lower spell points, is there any other disadvantage to not having charisma maxed? Any help would be much appreciated.


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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: FVS charisma modifier question Reply #1 - Oct 12^th, 2011 at 10:51am	Print Post
	It can be all items and tomes or enhancements.

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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: FVS charisma modifier question Reply #2 - Oct 12^th, 2011 at 10:53am	Print Post
	You must have a Charisma of 19 (after all items, class enhancements, tomes, etc.) in order to cast 9th level spells. A pure WF FvS with the Capstone, a +2 Tome, the Charisma I, II, III enhancements, and a +6 Cha item can cast 9th level spells.
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Thigmar Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 17 Joined: Dec 20^th, 2010	Re: FVS charisma modifier question Reply #3 - Oct 12^th, 2011 at 10:53am	Print Post
	very good. ty


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Thigmar Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 17 Joined: Dec 20^th, 2010	Re: FVS charisma modifier question Reply #4 - Oct 12^th, 2011 at 12:46pm	Print Post
	OK next question... For the Angel of Vengeance Prestige.... "The only thing stronger than your faith is the fire you use to burn away those who stand against the will of the gods. Enemies that strike you have a chance of suffering divine condemnation rendering them vulnerable to divine attacks, and you project a 15 meter Aura of Menace, decreasing the saving throws, attack, and armor class of nearby enemies by 2. You deal 20% additional damage with spells that deal fire, physical, or untyped damage, and can name an ally your 'Champion', transferring your shield of condemnation to them and damaging opponents that strike them in melee." Does this enhance light and holy damage?


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Vissarion DQ Assaulter Offline Posts: 493 Joined: Jul 23^rd, 2010 Gender:	Re: FVS charisma modifier question Reply #5 - Oct 12^th, 2011 at 2:49pm	Print Post
	Nope. Though your shield of condemnation amps up light and aligned damage when it procs. The base 20% boost effectively applies to Blade Barrier and the couple other fireish spells like Cometfall/Flamestrike/etc.

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Gawna Ex Member	Re: FVS charisma modifier question Reply #6 - Oct 12^th, 2011 at 7:32pm	Print Post
	Items, tomes, enhancements will work for being able to cast spells. Items do not count towards feat pre-reqs, though.


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Jizzly Ex Member	Re: FVS charisma modifier question Reply #7 - Oct 13^th, 2011 at 8:03am	Print Post
	Dwarf? Start 12 charisma 12 +3 enhancement +2 tome +2 tome or capstone =19 = disjunctable 9th level spells


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Terebinthia Horoluth Raider Offline All your cupcakes are belong to me! :D Posts: 2499 Joined: Jan 6^th, 2011	Re: FVS charisma modifier question Reply #8 - Oct 13^th, 2011 at 9:38am	Print Post
	I'm pretty sure I started at 10 or 11 on my current Flavoured Soul. +2 tome +2 boat +2 capstone +6 item +1 or 2 enhancements gives me 24, which looks right. I do carry Eagle's splendour just in case of disjunction. But it's more than enough to get by on.


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Thigmar Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 17 Joined: Dec 20^th, 2010	Re: FVS charisma modifier question Reply #9 - Oct 13^th, 2011 at 10:17am	Print Post
	I'll probably start at 10. Thanks for all the help guys.


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Jizzly Ex Member	Re: FVS charisma modifier question Reply #10 - Oct 13^th, 2011 at 10:36am	Print Post
	Terebinthia wrote on Oct 13^th, 2011 at 9:38am: I'm pretty sure I started at 10 or 11 on my current Flavoured Soul. +2 tome +2 boat +2 capstone +6 item +1 or 2 enhancements gives me 24, which looks right. I do carry Eagle's splendour just in case of disjunction. But it's more than enough to get by on. Didn't consider +4 stat pots (shows how little I do epics these days). Yeah, 24 -8 (disjuncted) = 16, +4 pot = 20 so good to go


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