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Reply #25 - Feb 13th, 2012 at 12:42pm
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Merrick wrote on Feb 11th, 2012 at 4:33pm:
I never understood what was wrong with no-ML items in the first place.

Twinking has a long history as the mainstay of most fantasy fiction. Look at Frodo. *He* didn't have to spend years training as a warrior in order to survive combat against a Troll in Moria. Granted, he was a main character and we're all just bit-players but the concept of gating by character level just stymies me.

If you as a developer think that your content is completely trivialized by someone killing boss mobs faster than you think they should be then you are creating your content incorrectly and it will NEVER scale well over time. The main measure of any given content's worth should not be "how many HP the boss has". That creates all sorts of problems.


the problem with NO ML items is that it removes part of the "dangling carrot" from the equation.   If you are able to start out with with all your gear that you'd eventually have to wait for until Level 13 or Level 15, then some (maybe many) people would get quickly bored as they were leveling, not being able to look forward to hitting Level 5 to use that gear, or Level 7 to use that gear, and so on.

The developers have to balance things so that the money keeps coming in every month.   While a certain population may not be affected the desire to hit a new level so they can use new things, the devs can't cater to that minority if they want to stay in business.
  
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Re: Regin of Madness change
Reply #26 - Feb 13th, 2012 at 1:47pm
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Landar wrote on Feb 12th, 2012 at 4:50am:
Yeah, I can't seem to pull anything but junk rings.  On the bright side, I'm getting fairly quick at doing the quests.


look for me this afternoon, ran that chain till ransack on my TR, so i'll be doing it on munk or my fvs today.
  

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Reply #27 - Feb 13th, 2012 at 3:22pm
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Ran the chain a bunch yesterday. Got a DD +10 ring (no trapper characters, but whatever) and a clever +5. So some decent rings are still dropping.
  
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Reply #28 - Feb 13th, 2012 at 7:32pm
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I still have and use my no ML +4 rings. No retroactive changes there.


Same here.  +4 STR, DEX, and CHA rings.  Mr. Cow also has an interesting collection of no-ML rings as well.  +20% Striding and mod Fort IIRC.
  

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Reply #29 - Feb 13th, 2012 at 9:22pm
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For all of the "low levels are easy" talk that I generally agree with, a 30% striding ring that you can wear on a first level character really is game changing.

I took the Dragonmark of Exp. Retreat on my Fighter as a placeholder until I swapped it out at level 12 and I was so very glad that I did.  Having that on a ring would be even better because then I could have fast movement even on non-human characters.
  

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Re: Regin of Madness change
Reply #30 - Feb 13th, 2012 at 10:06pm
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Ran it yesterday - something like, uh clever +2 ring of search +10 and um, striding 10% of springing +10 were my options. I guess I need to do a bit more farming.

I had a +5 con and a +5 prot ring already.
  
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Re: Regin of Madness change
Reply #31 - Feb 13th, 2012 at 10:34pm
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I got a no ml +6 cha ring before I started my wf sorceress who capped a few weeks ago.  Figured that was the end of my luck, only go in now to ransack the asylum chests for symbiot and summon trinkets Smiley

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Re: Regin of Madness change
Reply #32 - Feb 14th, 2012 at 8:34am
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I ransacked the chain itself, but can you ransack the quest chain reward?

My ring quality seems to be going downhill dramatically on my main TR.

Fortunately, I had already pulled a clean +6 Str ring, a clean +6 Dex ring, a Clever +5 of x, a Charisma +5 of x, and a Heavy Fortification Ring.

Still no Con, Striding or GFL.

Now I just have to figure out something useful to do with my no ML ring of Dismissal and no ML ring of Solid Fog.
  
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Reply #33 - Feb 14th, 2012 at 8:39am
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BoBoBo wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 8:34am:
Now I just have to figure out something useful to do with my no ML ring of Dismissal and no ML ring of Solid Fog.



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Re: Regin of Madness change
Reply #34 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 5:17pm
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Good rings ares still dropping.

Health +1 of Greater False Life
Striding 25% of Jump +3
(something) of Heavy Fortification
Health +5 of Resistance

I also pulled a +3 Holy Heavy Repeating Crossbow of Greater Evil Outsider Bane from the end reward list for Lord of Eyes!
  
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Re: Regin of Madness change
Reply #35 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 6:10pm
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BoBoBo wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 8:34am:
I ransacked the chain itself, but can you ransack the quest chain reward?


End rewards can (and do) ransack.

Two days ago, I re-ran the chain on Elite for favor except for the astoundingly annoying Acute Delerium which I punked out on and just ran Normal.  I was pleasantly surprised to pick up a +6 Int ring in the end reward list.  I never did get a striding ring, but since I ran the chain for favor so that I could hit 3000 on my Wizard before I TR him, I'm quite pleased by the +6 Int.
  

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Reply #36 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 7:04pm
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Aw, Acute elite isn't bad as long as you have CC who know what they're doing and the quest doesn't bug out on you. If you're enchantment specced and just charm everything it's a cakewalk.
  
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Re: Regin of Madness change
Reply #37 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 7:47pm
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cdr wrote on Feb 20th, 2012 at 7:04pm:
Aw, Acute elite isn't bad as long as you have CC who know what they're doing and the quest doesn't bug out on you. If you're enchantment specced and just charm everything it's a cakewalk.


I really should know better.  That character is actually an enchantment specced Pale Master, so I end up just throwing Mass Hold at enemies that have fort saves that I can't bust through with instakill.  My DCs have gotten decent enough that those enemies don't really exist anymore, so I tend to forget that he's actually enchantment specced.  Smiley

I'll have to try it again with that strategy.  I'll be interested to see how it fares with regular beholder spawns wandering around.
  

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Reply #38 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 9:01pm
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Any new word on whether or not changes will be retroactive or not? Might run some of this tonight.
  
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Re: Regin of Madness change
Reply #39 - Feb 21st, 2012 at 4:09am
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Any new word on whether or not changes will be retroactive or not?


Hahahaha, yeah right.... This is turbine/ddo we're talking about. You don't need to ask if they will "fix" all the rings people got from this chain. I don't think they're capable to do this.
  

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