substrate wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 5:42pm:


This would require the assumption that Woodburing actually healed anyone.

stainer wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 2:18pm:


Assuming twitching: generally speaking, if your "modified AB" (my term, which i define as AB + 10.5) is significantly greater than mob AC (~1.5x~1.6x or higher), then PA is basically always worth using.  If your modified AB is in the same range as AC (less than ~1.4x AC), then PA is basically NEVER worth using. 

Pluggin in some real numbers, 1.33x AC is the breakeven for 200 dmg/swing and a PA of 10 (=20 dmg/hit).  If you have less than 1.33x in this case, don't use PA.  Above 1.33x, you're technically better off using PA, but in this gray area, the difference is very very marginal, that you're probably best off not using PA just to be on the safe side.  PA is really only worth using when you can leverage the fact that losing AB doesn't actually decrease your hit chance (~1.6x or higher).  It's also worth noting that the more damage you're doing, the less you want to be using power attack. 

Basically, I think this is more or less the same as u13.  However, it does put much more emphasis on mob AC, since the ratio matters now (as opposed to the difference as it was before).  So whether PA is a worthwhile feat really depends on how high they're going to make mob AC.  If I had to guess, I'd say that low AB characters will want to strongly reconsider.  There are a lot of nice melee feats available that PA isn't a "must have" anymore. 

Infant wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 8:00pm:

But if they don't fix it, it'll turn into a feature! 

JC wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 1:06pm:


It reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg-QtwoREh8

JC, is that you?

Eladiun wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 6:00pm:


FvSs get healing spells?

AtomicMew wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 4:11pm:

What is clearly not the case?
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I wasn't implying that you did not need a high AB to use 'PA correctly'.

In order to make up for, e.g., 5% of to-hit lost when otherwise missing only on a 1, 95% times the damage dealt per hit has to be less than 90% of the damage dealt per hit + 7, i.e. the damage has to be 126, which fits kinda well to the 180 damage per mainhand attack (including offhand damage) I was mentioning earlier.

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AtomicMew wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 6:19am:

Then LRN2QUOTE.