So I have this lvl 13 warchanter sitting there, and she's my next capping project once I'm done with my cleric. It feels like warchanter was all kinds of fun up to about now, but the curve has overtaken her ability to be hugely useful. Or, it could be just that I need to lrn2play. I mean, it's me.

Anyone have any feedback on whether warchanter is still pretty viable and useful in later levels, or if I'd be better off respeccing her to a spellsinger? I have a lesser heart sitting in my bank anyway.

Soloing with a warchanter is easy as shit til about vale elites, where mob HP fucking balloons and the damage incoming increases significantly.

That being said, I love my warchanter and would not trade anything for her.

It may be that I've had several crappy pugs with her and also haven't really played her for a long time. I'll stick with the warchanter then for awhile. Thanks all!

It's pure. I hadn't thought of splashing actually, I will go play with it and see what I want to do. Thanks for the suggestion!

The first Warchanter in a raid full of melees adds more DPS than any other party member that can be added.  It is also more awesome than a Spellsinger even though Spellsingers are more useful in some situations because of the spell point regen thing.

Once upon a time (i.e. last week), I'd have said 16/2/2 was a great level split.  Now I think that 18/2 is better.  But not for any reason that I want to say out loud.

If I'm on, I'll likely be on Hordoculture, and you can just ninja me if you want.  Bards are by far my favorite class and I've several, although only two capped right now.  I'm told it is the only class that I play and don't completely and abjectly suck at.  I still am a terrible player, but of the terrible my bard is the best. 

Warcrye went 14/4 ftr/2 barbarian for her first life. She is currently a TR1 16/2/2 ftr/rogue with Paladin Dilly for ri-donk-ulous saves as a bard.

the 16/2/2 is a prefect split at the moment, while I await epic destinies and the enhancement update to see about 18/2 vs 14/4/2.

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2 Rogue/2 Fighter/16 Bard

I'm not familiar enough with the epic destinies yet to make what I feel would be an accurate suggestion.  I can say that following my original 3 life plan with Elkabongg has been a lot of fun.  I will very likely redo his build with epic destinies in mind.

Others here likely have better ideas regarding a first life bard, or the synergy with the new epic destinies stuff.  I'll be taking a hard look at it once it drops on live.

For a first life bard, my plan for Elka was this on a pure:

     

Strength 18
Dexterity 8
Constitution 15
Intelligence 8 	  	 
Wisdom 	8 	  	 
Charisma 	15

Level 	BAB 	Class 	Max Skill 	Feat 1 	Feat 2
1 	1 	Bard 	4 	WF:Slash 	Extend
2 	2 	Bard 	5
3 	3 	Bard 	6 	PA
4 	4 	Bard 	7
5 	5 	Bard 	8
6 	6 	Bard 	9 	THF
7 	7 	Bard 	10
8 	8 	Bard 	11
9 	9 	Bard 	12 	ITHF
10 	10 	Bard 	13
11 	11 	Bard 	14
12 	12 	Bard 	15 	IC:Slash
13 	13 	Bard 	16
14 	14 	Bard 	17
15 	15 	Bard 	18 	Maximize
16 	16 	Bard 	19
17 	17 	Bard 	20
18 	18 	Bard 	21 	Toughness
19 	19 	Bard 	22
20 	20 	Bard 	23  

That netted me a 437hp, 1200sp, 38-44str great axe swinging singer/back up raid healer with his gear.

Gz!

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I’m leaning towards the 18/2 split ATM.  I can’t tell you why, but I’m sure your search fu is strong enough to figure out why I came to this conclusion.

I'm on my Bard life on Tereana, my glacially slow completionist. She's planned to be a 16 bard / 3 rogue / 1 barbarian split, 3 rogue for the extra sneak attack and barb for the running speed and baby rage and whatnot. Stole the build of a friend who has one of those capped, was pretty fun to drive his around at cap.

Grace wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 6:48pm:


Stick with a pure warchanter. Learn the class, mold the toon to adapt to what you want it to be. Respeccing to a SS at this point would be admitting defeat. A gimpy WC is easier to play then a gimpy SS.

My first, and still favorite, bard will always be a pure warchanter. max str, 16 con, 10 int (for skill point) 12 cha.
Find a bad ass two hander and go to town. You will be looked at as dps first. Do this, and you should have no problem piking...err leveling to 20. 

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