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Evangelier Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 281 Joined: Aug 8^th, 2011	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #25 - Jun 6^th, 2012 at 11:13pm	Print Post
	Deeds wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 10:45pm: I forsee a lot of wiz/sorc duos. Honestly, why the fuck cant they just give enemy divines the ability to cast deathward (which can be interupted and dispelled). Enemy concentration checks would be nice. But dispelling? With epic mob caster levels?


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Shadehater Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Smite Stupid! Posts: 2174 Joined: May 6^th, 2012	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #26 - Jun 6^th, 2012 at 11:56pm	Print Post
	Quote: Who the fuck are you running with? I'll do it just to piss every melee off until the end of time.


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Grace Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 5851 Joined: Aug 4^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #27 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 12:07am	Print Post
	Enemy divines can and do cast deathward now. That made sense. What they changed it to makes no sense at all.

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Shadehater Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Smite Stupid! Posts: 2174 Joined: May 6^th, 2012	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #28 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 12:08am	Print Post
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scraap Ex Member	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #29 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 12:11am	Print Post
	I particularly like the assumptions that folks'll be going back to hold-botting now. Fuck that. Torc+sla+aura+bursts till it's down enough. You pull it off, you kill it. Or your ass buys the pots. Used to make it a point to set up CC/AOE bunkers and the like at doors too, but hey, they wanna make me use up more bluebar? Blame them.
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Madcow430 Shroud Slacker Offline I have Mad Cow Disease Posts: 1207 Location: Arizona Joined: Jul 4^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #30 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 12:46am	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 10:14pm: The problem is, it is being called deathward.� In most cases it more of a deathblock.� Necro dmg still hits it, you just can't instakill it. That changes things a bit. Not nearly as bad if your sla's on a pale work to damage the mobs. Could potentially be a hold or mass hold/ sla/horrid wilting/wail or circle then. Unless the mobs are back to mult thousand hp juggernaughts.


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popejubal Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline fnord Posts: 6364 Location: Argo Joined: Aug 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #31 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 12:48am	Print Post
	Grace wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 12:07am: Enemy divines can and do cast deathward now. That made sense. What they changed it to makes no sense at all. With enemy caster levels hovering around 9000, it's pretty much impossible to dispell those deathwards, so I'm very happy to see enemy casters cast deathward and to see more of some individual enemy types (constructs, undead) that are immune to stuff. Hell, let's see golems go back to D&D versions where they're close to immune to casters. Blanket Immunities for all enemies in quests are just plain stupid, though.

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Blank Ex Member	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #32 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 1:19am	Print Post
	Shadehater wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 11:56pm: I'll do it just to piss every melee off until the end of time. My comment was aimed at the whole "20 minutes thing". Who the fuck do you run with that can't DPS down an epic mob in a decent time span?


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kickass Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 137 Joined: Oct 12^th, 2011	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #33 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 1:27am	Print Post
	taking out a wizard's ability to deal with trash quickly makes it a completely useless class. something needed to be done about OP pale masters being too good at it, but the solution should never be 'blanket immunities that make a class completely not worth playing at all'. who in their right mind isnt going to tr immediately into a sorc? there's absolutely no reason to run a pale master anymore. unless you're a huge fan of the inspired quarter.


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scraap Ex Member	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #34 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 1:40am	Print Post
	Sad part is, anyone with half a brain will still break the game in half. Just a different icon on the buttons as we blow past trash. (and hey, no scrolls to farm so no real reason to bother killing em).


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dubyprime Waterworks Kobold Offline Stainer scares me. Posts: 134 Joined: Jul 10^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #35 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 2:58am	Print Post
	I think this is just another turbine stunt to get us angry about something so they can back off and make us overlook the other crap they have snuck in.


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sweez Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 764 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #36 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 7:52am	Print Post
	Quote: Sad part is, anyone with half a brain will still break the game in half. Just a different icon on the buttons as we blow past trash. (and hey, no scrolls to farm so no real reason to bother killing em). Oh right, completely forgot about that So now there's pretty much no reason to kill trash anyway (unless they've given them all see invis)


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aDifferentHandle Abbot Raider Offline omg, that's the funky shit Posts: 996 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2010	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #37 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 8:06am	Print Post
	I think I like it - instakills requiring some prepping via dps is an interesting twist on ye ole "fingering the 5% mob" meme. My rogue does not like it too much, as everyone know that rogues are no dps class.

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Nothingtoseehere Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 110 Joined: Jan 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #38 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 8:19am	Print Post
	aDifferentHandle wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 8:06am: I think I like it - instakills requiring some prepping via dps is an interesting twist on ye ole "fingering the 5% mob" meme. My rogue does not like it too much, as everyone know that rogues are no dps class. Doesn't your rogue have sneak attack damage?


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Inkblack Puppy Farmer Vault WDA Offline _,\|,, Posts: 1553 Joined: Sep 10^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #39 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 8:23am	Print Post
	Nothingtoseehere wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 8:19am: Doesn't your rogue have sneak attack damage? Sarcasm. You rolled a 1.


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Merrick DQ Assaulter Offline Posts: 456 Joined: Nov 29^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #40 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 9:23am	Print Post
	Grace wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 12:07am: Enemy divines can and do cast deathward now. That made sense. What they changed it to makes no sense at all. They probably cast nothing BUT deathward due to buggy code, thereby skipping any casts of ALL of their other spells and making the fight "too easy".


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4363 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #41 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 9:27am	Print Post
	rest wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 9:22pm: Well now that I'll have to carry around all these spell damage items, I wish I had made my PM with a bit more str. Goddamn I hate inventory tetris. epic midnights greetings, viable again.

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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #42 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 9:31am	Print Post
	kickass wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 1:27am: taking out a wizard's ability to deal with trash quickly makes it a completely useless class. something needed to be done about OP pale masters being too good at it, but the solution should never be 'blanket immunities that make a class completely not worth playing at all'. who in their right mind isnt going to tr immediately into a sorc? there's absolutely no reason to run a pale master anymore. unless you're a huge fan of the inspired quarter. I'm staying a wizard. Web + Firewall + block-n-Torc on the ones not caught in the web + Wail = Win. If I have melees in my group mass-hold and kill-steal. Look, I and by no means a fan of this change but it's not the end of the world if the monkeys at Turbine don't revoke it. Who knows if scroll farming will even be viable anymore, I'd be shocked it it is. If the scroll drop-rates are the same on Epic N/H/E it won't matter.


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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #43 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 10:24am	Print Post
	Looks like I'll be heading back to AM:Enchantment However, it does amuse me that the asshats at Turbine can't figure out how to balance the game. Epic Ward > No Epic Ward > Epic Ward Only In Challenges > Half Epic Ward on Epic Hard and Elite No blanket immunities. Blanket Immunities. Half Immunities. There really is no creativity in design.
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Cripey Shroud Slacker Offline Fuck you, thats my name. Posts: 1007 Joined: Jul 21^st, 2010 Gender:	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #44 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 10:34am	Print Post
	Played around last night, level 23, capped Draconic ED with some magister abilities twisted in. Pretty sick damage on sorc, still ends up being caster handling trash. With a completionist wiz bud wed run in couple quick AOE and then he'd wail with melees usually grabbing archers and such that didn't come to the group of murder. Not happy about allot of changes but not quite doom either I guess.

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QuantumFX Shroud Slacker Offline Now back to the GOOD part! Posts: 1170 Joined: Nov 15^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #45 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 1:44pm	Print Post
	I�d rather they do something unique and original like ditch the stratospheric stats and actually have the mobs wear gear and have buffs when we encounter them. (You know, like players.) That way we could dispel/disjunct em and then insta-kill them.


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 10011 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #46 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 1:56pm	Print Post
	Shade must have an hard on about that change. Bah, I was playing "Evil Technical Expert" all the day, so I couldn't watch all the rages and such, now half the threads are locked and some have probably been fed to the cube. sulks

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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #47 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 2:15pm	Print Post
	sweez wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 7:52am: Oh right, completely forgot about that So now there's pretty much no reason to kill trash anyway (unless they've given them all see invis) Drow mobs see invis automagically


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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #48 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 2:19pm	Print Post
	All the changes have sucked out my will to play. Have fun!

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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 10011 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Deathward for mobs in Epics Reply #49 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 2:21pm	Print Post
	By the way, now that I've eaten dinner, drunk a whiskey and a few glasses of wine... This change reminds me of the Vorpal Nerf.

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