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Maxwell Edison Bailiff Offline HADOUKEN! Posts: 3142 Location: Bologna Joined: Jul 13^th, 2011	Murderthumbs Retrofit Jul 11^th, 2012 at 10:33am	Print Post
	I've started thinking about how I want to use the free LR to tweak Murderthumbs based on new content and epic elites.� Currently base stats including levelups and tomes are: 34pt. 23 STR (16+5+2) 17 DEX (15+2) 18 CON (16+2) 10 INT (8+2) 17 WIS (14+3) 10 CHA (8+2) My enhancements are laid out with 20% Human HA, 30% Monk HA, Quad-master (GM Earth) with Void IV (I'm definitely ready to drop Void IV as the shiny new GMoF stuff bumped it from my rotation).� Feats are pretty typical with TWF chain, PL Monk, Toughness, Power Attack, Cleave, and Improved Sunder. A healing amp focused light monk I am and a healing amp focused light monk I shall remain, but I've been thinking about shifting points to wisdom to qualify for vorpal strikes and for the bump in DC's for orchid blossom and lily petal (currently around 41-42). After I get the stat and enhancement layout figured out I need to figure out how I'm gonna re-gear too.� Currently I'm sporting: Head: SFL +15 tumble cove chapeau (it's sexy and I know it) Goggles: Min II Goggles Body: Dragontouched w/ 10/20 HA and radiance guard Wrist: Epic Jidz Tet'ka slotted w/ GFL Ring1: Kyosho's (Acid Burst) Ring2: Gilvaenor's (Holy Burst) Gloves: Purple Dragon Knight Gauntlets Boots: Gyroscopic Boots (Ol' Madstones are worthless to me now) Belt: Epic Spare Hand Cloak: Epic Cloak of Night Trinket: Epic Spyglass/Head of GF/Shimmering Arrowhead (I have a +8 Dex Planar Focus of Prowess) Neck: Oremi's or Shintao Cord I'm probably going to farm out a Spider-Spun Caparison and was thinking of replacing the acid on my Kyosho's w/ 20% healing amp but I'm worried about how much that combined with the loss of STR will effect my DPS.� I'm open to pretty much any ideas provided it can be accomplished with an LR and re-gear rather than running through another life right now, and so long as I keep my high HA/AoE ball of stunning death combo I have going now. Edited: Forgot to list my current gloves
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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit Reply #1 - Jul 11^th, 2012 at 11:17am	Print Post
	Look up Xirek on Khyber. He went dark for more DPS and shadowfade, but his build and gearset are pretty flawless. Also, we have to screenshot any death he has in any quest because it is so fucking rare.

	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 9:41pm: All hail Smrti. Felgor wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 11:18pm: Fuck Australia. rev Jim wrote on Sep 12^th, 2012 at 8:40am: I wish I was a rich black woman sometimes........
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Maxwell Edison Bailiff Offline HADOUKEN! Posts: 3142 Location: Bologna Joined: Jul 13^th, 2011	Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit Reply #2 - Jul 11^th, 2012 at 11:44am	Print Post
	His myddo isn't working (mine isn't either anymore).� The forum post is pre-expansion so does not take new gear into consideration or epic feats, shows he's starting from a fourth life toon, has higher tomes, and has feats/enhancements geared for dark monk.� Thanks, this is exactly what I would be looking for if I wanted to build a 4th life dark monk 3 months ago.
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Gawna Ex Member	Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit Reply #3 - Jul 11^th, 2012 at 12:15pm	Print Post
	Maxwell Edison wrote on Jul 11^th, 2012 at 11:44am: Thanks, this is exactly what I would be looking for if I wanted to build a 4th life dark monk 3 months ago.


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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit Reply #4 - Jul 11^th, 2012 at 12:29pm	Print Post
	Maxwell Edison wrote on Jul 11^th, 2012 at 11:44am: His myddo isn't working (mine isn't either anymore).� The forum post is pre-expansion so does not take new gear into consideration or epic feats, shows he's starting from a fourth life toon, has higher tomes, and has feats/enhancements geared for dark monk.� Thanks, this is exactly what I would be looking for if I wanted to build a 4th life dark monk 3 months ago. Fair. Now wait til he logs in and talk to him about gear. AFAIK he hasn't changed any gear yet at all. Something about, "If I change one piece, I'm going to have to change ALL of it. And I don't want to do that yet." btw, did I mention he is fucking unkillable?

	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 9:41pm: All hail Smrti. Felgor wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 11:18pm: Fuck Australia. rev Jim wrote on Sep 12^th, 2012 at 8:40am: I wish I was a rich black woman sometimes........
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Maxwell Edison Bailiff Offline HADOUKEN! Posts: 3142 Location: Bologna Joined: Jul 13^th, 2011	Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit Reply #5 - Jul 11^th, 2012 at 2:04pm	Print Post
	So has anyone actually been playing a monk and want to discuss some of the new feat and gear options or does everyone else just know a monk who's super cool too?

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Gawna Ex Member	Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit Reply #6 - Jul 11^th, 2012 at 2:10pm	Print Post
	You should equip handwraps on your monk.


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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit Reply #7 - Jul 11^th, 2012 at 2:26pm	Print Post
	Maxwell Edison wrote on Jul 11^th, 2012 at 2:04pm: So has anyone actually been playing a monk and want to discuss some of the new feat and gear options or does everyone else just know a monk who's super cool too? My monk suddenly has a bajillion extra AC without trying if that's what you mean. I'm gonna be after PDK gloves, maybe the Helm, then the Villager set stuff. After that, probably the Woodsman Goggles and Boots. Then I'm going to complain about no handwraps in the new raid to go along with whatever Planar Focus Item I want. Does that answer your question?

	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 9:41pm: All hail Smrti. Felgor wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 11:18pm: Fuck Australia. rev Jim wrote on Sep 12^th, 2012 at 8:40am: I wish I was a rich black woman sometimes........
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Maxwell Edison Bailiff Offline HADOUKEN! Posts: 3142 Location: Bologna Joined: Jul 13^th, 2011	Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit Reply #8 - Jul 11^th, 2012 at 2:40pm	Print Post
	Smrti wrote on Jul 11^th, 2012 at 2:26pm: My monk suddenly has a bajillion extra AC without trying if that's what you mean. I'm gonna be after PDK gloves, maybe the Helm, then the Villager set stuff. After that, probably the Woodsman Goggles and Boots. Then I'm going to complain about no handwraps in the new raid to go along with whatever Planar Focus Item I want. Does that answer your question? What is it you're looking to gain out of those items and what are you sacrificing to get it? What were you looking at for the second epic feat? Anything your looking at changing in your build in light of the epic destiny options or something you've run across in new or redesigned content? I'm looking for a discussion, not just a shopping list.

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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit Reply #9 - Jul 11^th, 2012 at 2:49pm	Print Post
	Maxwell Edison wrote on Jul 11^th, 2012 at 2:40pm: What is it you're looking to gain out of those items and what are you sacrificing to get it? Not sacrificing too much. This toon got the shaft on gearing as I focused a lot harder on my Bard and my Main, so the new easy-to-get gear is a godsend for him. Some of the set bonuses (particularly the Earth Stance proc) are pretty shiny over all, and the +9 WIS is going to make me very happy. The goggles will drop my to-hit by 1 (using eRaven's) overall, but frees up my Trinket for Litany, so that's a wash, and I gain +1 dmg and +1 stats. I'll have to remake my GS again (using Radiance Boots atm) or I can say fuck it to the +2 exceptional DEX, which I might do anyhow. PDK gives me +9 STR/CON and Intimidate 15, so I might rework that a bit. eMoron Helm is now useless. Maxwell Edison wrote on Jul 11^th, 2012 at 2:40pm: What were you looking at for the second epic feat? I'm not taking any toons above 23 til they fix the stat increse, so I have no idea yet. We'll see when I get there though. Maxwell Edison wrote on Jul 11^th, 2012 at 2:40pm: Anything your looking at changing in your build in light of the epic destiny options or something you've run across in new or redesigned content? I'm considering not taking cleave at all myself. I don't have the feats to justify it, and I'd want Great cleave and Overwhleming Crit if I did. There's about 6 feats I'd want over Cleave now. I may also drop Stunning Blow, but that remains to be seen.

	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 9:41pm: All hail Smrti. Felgor wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 11:18pm: Fuck Australia. rev Jim wrote on Sep 12^th, 2012 at 8:40am: I wish I was a rich black woman sometimes........
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Maxwell Edison Bailiff Offline HADOUKEN! Posts: 3142 Location: Bologna Joined: Jul 13^th, 2011	Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit Reply #10 - Jul 11^th, 2012 at 3:20pm	Print Post
	So you're a dark monk I gather, or are you replacing cleave with CE or Luck of Heroes? The stat items are nice, but may force me to give up the ToD ring bursts. And the sun soul bonus is interesting, but having to replace items/slots for healing amp is a major drawback unless I can find a necklace/trinket/helm to replace the 10%. I'm right at the line from seeing 3/6's on my healing curse and dropping down to 2/5's and that's a pretty big difference when I'm soloing.

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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit Reply #11 - Jul 11^th, 2012 at 3:32pm	Print Post
	Maxwell Edison wrote on Jul 11^th, 2012 at 3:20pm: So you're a dark monk I gather, or are you replacing cleave with CE or Luck of Heroes? The stat items are nice, but may force me to give up the ToD ring bursts.� And the sun soul bonus is interesting, but having to replace items/slots for healing amp is a major drawback unless I can find a necklace/trinket/helm to replace the 10%.� I'm right at the line from seeing 3/6's on my healing curse and dropping down to 2/5's and that's a pretty big difference when I'm soloing. I am a dark monk. I did play as a Light monk for quite a while, but dark was better for me overall. As far as soloing goes, you could probably make a pair of Vampirism Wraps now. That will make your butthole tickle. I only have 200% amp and I see 2-6 back per hit with my Bodyfeeder/Vamp scimmies on Smrti. You'd probably be getting double that seeing it's a 1d3 on-hit proc. I've been debating CE a lot recently on my monk. between Shadow Fade, the huge AC bump I got and the high Dodge I have suddenly, the extra percentage buff looks sexy.

	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 9:41pm: All hail Smrti. Felgor wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 11:18pm: Fuck Australia. rev Jim wrote on Sep 12^th, 2012 at 8:40am: I wish I was a rich black woman sometimes........
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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit Reply #12 - Jul 11^th, 2012 at 3:33pm	Print Post
	Also, Seal of House DunRobar. It's fucking gold.

	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 9:41pm: All hail Smrti. Felgor wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 11:18pm: Fuck Australia. rev Jim wrote on Sep 12^th, 2012 at 8:40am: I wish I was a rich black woman sometimes........
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Maxwell Edison Bailiff Offline HADOUKEN! Posts: 3142 Location: Bologna Joined: Jul 13^th, 2011	Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit Reply #13 - Jul 11^th, 2012 at 3:41pm	Print Post
	Smrti wrote on Jul 11^th, 2012 at 3:33pm: Also, Seal of House DunRobar. It's fucking gold. Another stunning +10 item, I'm currently at 42 DC on stunning fist with no Stunning item, this will soon be 46. If I do decide to go with Vorpal Strikes my wisdom increase necessary would put it at 48. So Stunning +10 would pretty much be useless to me I think. Add in that the Str+7 is already on the PDK gauntlets) and that ring is just a 4% dodge ring for sacrificing a burst effect. It's nice but nothing super special.

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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit Reply #14 - Jul 11^th, 2012 at 3:44pm	Print Post
	Maxwell Edison wrote on Jul 11^th, 2012 at 3:41pm: Another stunning +10 item, I'm currently at 42 DC on stunning fist with no Stunning item, this will soon be 46.� If I do decide to go with Vorpal Strikes my wisdom increase necessary would put it at 48.� So Stunning +10 would pretty much be useless to me I think. Add in that the Str+7 is already on the PDK gauntlets) and that ring is just a 4% dodge ring for sacrificing a burst effect.� It's nice but nothing super special. Mobs in EEs are saving on a DC 60 Stunning Fist according to a few guildies. I need to really gear my guy out to hit that, but I use Alchemicals atm anyhow. I am debating whether or not to go back to level ups in WIS with my free LR or not. I've seen some fun ideas for it, but I'm having trouble justifying it 100%.

	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 9:41pm: All hail Smrti. Felgor wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 11:18pm: Fuck Australia. rev Jim wrote on Sep 12^th, 2012 at 8:40am: I wish I was a rich black woman sometimes........
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Maxwell Edison Bailiff Offline HADOUKEN! Posts: 3142 Location: Bologna Joined: Jul 13^th, 2011	Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit Reply #15 - Jul 11^th, 2012 at 3:56pm	Print Post
	The question is how often are the enemies saving and which ones. If it's only those who would typically have decent fort saves saving half the time then I'm fine with keeping my DC around 50 and focusing on casters in EE. I'll probably be doing most of my gameplay in EH in pug, solo, or with a few friends.

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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit Reply #16 - Jul 11^th, 2012 at 3:59pm	Print Post
	It's pretty much all mobs that aren't casters.

	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 9:41pm: All hail Smrti. Felgor wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 11:18pm: Fuck Australia. rev Jim wrote on Sep 12^th, 2012 at 8:40am: I wish I was a rich black woman sometimes........
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spathic Stocky Greenis Offline Taunting the stupid since before you were born. Posts: 1623 Location: Shenandoah valley Joined: Mar 2^nd, 2012 Gender:	Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit Reply #17 - Jul 11^th, 2012 at 4:34pm	Print Post
	Without someone shitting a couple of +3 or +4 tomes on you, combat expertise will be hard to do. Where would you pull the build points from? The boost in absolute AC numbers might be nice but I suspect the reduction in being hit won't be worth the investment. I've been struggling on gearing/regearing and rebuilding my light monk too so I've been apathetic about playing him. Definitely staying light. Every build so far had me dropping dex to 13 and not worrying about the full twf line. Also, is changing from 3/6 to 2/5 on healing curse going to kill you? (Literally that is.) The 2/5 seems to work well at keeping me up and gimping. Oh, make sure you get all the light monk special abilities just so you don't have to carry all of those potions and can contribute something other than maniacal laughter.

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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit Reply #18 - Jul 11^th, 2012 at 4:41pm	Print Post
	I'm a HOrc. If I start at 16 STR, I have SO MANY POINTS TO SPEND OMG.

	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 9:41pm: All hail Smrti. Felgor wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 11:18pm: Fuck Australia. rev Jim wrote on Sep 12^th, 2012 at 8:40am: I wish I was a rich black woman sometimes........
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Maxwell Edison Bailiff Offline HADOUKEN! Posts: 3142 Location: Bologna Joined: Jul 13^th, 2011	Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit Reply #19 - Jul 11^th, 2012 at 4:56pm	Print Post
	Oh I'm in no way taking CE, just brought it up because dropping cleave was mentioned and was wondering what the replacement feat would be for shintao. He's dark though so it doesn't matter. And the change from 3/6 to 2/5 actually could kill me, eventually. I usually jump into groups of enemies and attack them all at once, constantly switching targets and dropping stuns+FoL. Before I got to 300% I would slowly get whittled down more than I could recover, now I am usually close to full or at worst close enough for a healing finisher to get me within 50hps or so (finisher gets me for 80-100, no devotion item). Don't think I'd entertain the idea of building myself out of GTWF as without the preponderance of attacks from monk you might as well just TR into another TWF build that can avoid some of the M.A.D. issues. As for the special abilities, if they were AoE I'd consider it. But as single target effects pots still win out.

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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit Reply #20 - Jul 11^th, 2012 at 4:58pm	Print Post
	Still think you should craft Vampirism Wraps. they are seriously that good.

	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 9:41pm: All hail Smrti. Felgor wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 11:18pm: Fuck Australia. rev Jim wrote on Sep 12^th, 2012 at 8:40am: I wish I was a rich black woman sometimes........
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Maxwell Edison Bailiff Offline HADOUKEN! Posts: 3142 Location: Bologna Joined: Jul 13^th, 2011	Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit Reply #21 - Jul 11^th, 2012 at 5:18pm	Print Post
	I probably will with the change on the Thaarak's, the vampirism on my stonedusters got me through until I could equip my HA dragontouched when coming back up this life. Still gonna take some grinding for now (crafter is only in the 80's, crafting is not killing and it bores me). The biggest drawback is the drop-off in DPS from losing a suffix. I already have holy burst from ToD ring so what prefix could I put on there and not gimp my DPS?

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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit Reply #22 - Jul 11^th, 2012 at 5:24pm	Print Post
	DPS? No clue. I put Bodyfeeder on my Blessed Silver scimmies. 15-20 Bodyfeeder with 2d3 on hit hp back makes me a happy camper.

	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 9:41pm: All hail Smrti. Felgor wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 11:18pm: Fuck Australia. rev Jim wrote on Sep 12^th, 2012 at 8:40am: I wish I was a rich black woman sometimes........
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Maxwell Edison Bailiff Offline HADOUKEN! Posts: 3142 Location: Bologna Joined: Jul 13^th, 2011	Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit Reply #23 - Jul 11^th, 2012 at 5:29pm	Print Post
	I'm not just looking to survive while I take 3 minutes to kill a trash mob, I'm looking to keep myself up while running around murderizing fools. Who knows, maybe someday some of the new lootgen prefixes will make their way to cannith crafting. Maybe monkeys will fly out my ass too.

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Xirek Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 11 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit Reply #24 - Jul 11^th, 2012 at 9:45pm	Print Post
	What do you want your monk to be able to do and in what order of importance? What difficulty do you want to be able to do these on? You can build for EH and take your chances on how effective you will be on EE or build for EE. I wouldn't worry to much about tomes too much, a full set of +3's should be easy to find over a couple of weeks if you work at it.


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