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Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit
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Well, currently I can solo most EH without too much difficulty, and am just looking at how I can best improve myself without taking away from what I currently have. 300% HA and good, solid DPS is where I am now. Ac and PRR are things that have pretty much just happened as a byproduct of running earth stance, I don't build around them at all. Mainly I'm just looking at the new stuff and how I can fit it in without the house of cards falling down.
I've been thinking about things like is Vorpal Strikes (when working) worth moving the points from STR to wisdom. I don't know how much of an effect it would have on my to-hit, but slashing bypass, vorpal damage, and +3 DC's on my GMoF attacks do seem rather interesting.
Then there's the cascading gear decisions. The sun soul set bonus looks nice but I'd lose my 10/20 HA from DT. 20 could be moved to a ring but then I'm losing more DPS from the burst damage. Also, a lot of the new gear has overlapping effects, everything seems to have +15 concentration for example. So I don't want to end up having to swap out another piece of gear just because it's the third item to give constitution or wisdom.
And I'm still pissed there's no Planar Conflux handwraps.
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Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit
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If monks had planar conflux handwraps, they could solo the raid. Shit for brains admitted this and that is why he didn't put khopeshes or HANDWRAPS into the fucking raid. I mean, it isn't like there is an entire class based off of handwraps or anything.
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Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit
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Epoch wrote
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If monks had planar conflux handwraps, they could solo the raid
And this is why you don't develop for the top 0.05% of the playerbase. There are probably 200 players in the game that could maybe make that claim. The other 400,000 or however many total players are in DDO, can't hit the broadside of a barn and everyone gets penalized?
It's lame and poor game development.
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Belwaar wrote
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It's lame and poor game development.
Word up. Especially since every monk just took Tharaak Wraps off their hotbar.
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Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit
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Word up. Especially since every monk just took Tharaak Wraps off their hotbar.
The change effected wraps the least even with IC:Blunt they only procced on a 19-20. Now, it's just a 20.
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Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment.
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I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that. I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all.
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Eladiun wrote
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The change effected wraps the least even with IC:Blunt they only procced on a 19-20. Now, it's just a 20.
It was a joke. I just wanted to be one of the cool whiner kids.
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Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit
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It was a joke. I just wanted to be one of the cool whiner kids.
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You know what you can wrap?
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Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment.
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I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that. I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all.
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Eladiun wrote
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You know what you can wrap?
Your nuts?
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Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit
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Your nuts?
Nevynn wrote
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Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment.
Calvet wrote
on Oct 20
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I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that. I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all.
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Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit
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If you want to keep 300% healing amp you need tp slot 10 and 20% healing amp which are only slotable on bracers tod rings and dt. epic jidz really isnt doing much for you just giving +5 will save and reinforced fists, if you put 20% on a tod ring and switch to the caparison that replaces the reinforced fists gives you +20 hp from toughness unless its slotted in your belt, +6 resistance which i cant see slotted anywhere, reinforced ki and a +8/+3 wis/dex. You can then put a random gen 10% healing amp bracers with something useful in the wrist slot, best suffix is probably superior parrying giving 4 ac and +4 to all your saves.
Helm, boots and trinket slot all look like they could be used better boots could possibly be used for 7 or 8 random gen dexterity especially if you can get an upgraded abbot quiver to cover striding. I cant think of any other named boots that would be particularly useful. The helm is only really giving you +10 hp over gfl which can be slotted in any yellow slot and the look of it. The trinket could be replaced by litany, Bold trinket or one of the planar confluxes which will probably be more useful.
If you change your build to get vorpal strikes with your current setup will take all 6 of your levelups from str to wisdom which when combined with your change of todring to healing amp will be 7-8 damage per hit less than what you do now and you probably lose 3.5 damage per hit from the improved martial arts you could take instead(if its fixed to be taken multiple times). On vorpalable trash the feat will add 5 damage per hit and kill below 1k hp. If you are grandmaster of flowers the majority of the time i think the dc increase is worth if you can accept the dps loss. If you can get the +3 tomes you could go with a 16(+2tome/+3 preferably+2 levels) 14 (+3 tome) 15 (+3 tome) 8(+2 tome) 16(+3 tome +4 levels) 8 (+2 tome) stat setup. If combined witha +3 insight str trinket this would give you the same str you currently have.
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Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit
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Yeah that pretty much lines up with the way I've been leaning.
Gonna be hard to find a better hat though.
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Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit
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Maxwell Edison wrote
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Yeah that pretty much lines up with the way I've been leaning.
Gonna be hard to find a better hat though.
Ya. For I while, I was just going with a cove hat. SFL and concentration on it.
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Xirek wrote
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If you want to keep 300% healing amp you need tp slot 10 and 20% healing amp which are only slotable on bracers tod rings and dt. epic jidz really isnt doing much for you just giving +5 will save and reinforced fists, if you put 20% on a tod ring and switch to the caparison that replaces the reinforced fists gives you +20 hp from toughness unless its slotted in your belt, +6 resistance which i cant see slotted anywhere, reinforced ki and a +8/+3 wis/dex. You can then put a random gen 10% healing amp bracers with something useful in the wrist slot, best suffix is probably superior stability giving 4 ac and +4 to all your saves.
Helm, boots and trinket slot all look like they could be used better boots could possibly be used for 7 or 8 random gen dexterity especially if you can get an upgraded abbot quiver to cover striding. I cant think of any other named boots that would be particularly useful. The helm is only really giving you +10 hp over gfl which can be slotted in any yellow slot and the look of it. The trinket could be replaced by litany, Bold trinket or one of the planar confluxes which will probably be more useful.
If you change your build to get vorpal strikes with your current setup will take all 6 of your levelups from str to wisdom which when combined with your change of todring to healing amp will be 7-8 damage per hit less than what you do now and you probably lose 3.5 damage per hit from the improved martial arts you could take instead(if its fixed to be taken multiple times). On vorpalable trash the feat will add 5 damage per hit and kill below 1k hp. If you are grandmaster of flowers the majority of the time i think the dc increase is worth if you can accept the dps loss. If you can get the +3 tomes you could go with a 16(+2tome/+3 preferably+2 levels) 14 (+3 tome) 15 (+3 tome) 8(+2 tome) 16(+3 tome +4 levels) 8 (+2 tome) stat setup. If combined witha +3 insight str trinket this would give you the same str you currently have.
Holy shitfuck, use a fucking paragraph from time to time, fuckfurter.
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Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit
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I could but i think i prefer it this way.
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Xirek wrote
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You can then put a random gen 10% healing amp bracers with something useful in the wrist slot, best suffix is probably superior stability giving 4 ac and +4 to all your saves.
why the fuck would a monk want superior stability?
So you want to know about an exploit?
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Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit
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I am thinking that maybe he meant superior parrying. It gives +4 to saves and +4 insight bonus to ac.
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I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog. #epochsfamiliarFTW
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It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity.
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Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit
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Then again, I could be wrong and he could be a fucking idiot. Who knows?
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I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog. #epochsfamiliarFTW
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It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity.
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Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit
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I already pulled a pair of lesser convalescent bracers of superior parrying, still need to pull a Caparison to start this equipment shuffle though. Anyone gotten one and can tell me where this hidden chest is in Deal and the Demon which supposedly drops it?
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What's a Caparison?
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Re: Murderthumbs Retrofit
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Spider-Spun Caparison
Random Ability bonus (Dex/Wis, +8 or +3 exceptional)
+9 Enhancement Bonus
Resistance +6
Enhanced Ki +1
Reinforced Fists
Concentration +15
Toughness
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Sometimes I regret making my monk WF...but then I remember he dominates all and stop regretting it. I guess I better make a fleshie monk...
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Maxwell Edison wrote
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Love the new avvy btw
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