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whothefuckami Stormreaver Piker Offline Oppan Gangnam Style Posts: 599 Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #25 - Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 9:33pm	Print Post
	Rodrak wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 6:47pm: Ugh, reading this thread is bad for the eyes In any case, nothing changed for both items. Bauble was always 2% in the end chest, it's still the same. I have no idea if the extra chests you get on hard/elite can drop bauble too (in that case, the chance is the same for each chest), as at some point it was a bit buggy and only dropped optional chest's loot ie. the stupid lute. Some people claim that it's fixed and randomly drops either extra end chests or extra optional chests. I haven't been there for over a year, so can't say if it's true. No changes for Torc either. Raid loot chance for heroic n/h/e is 16/18/20% and 6% for the torc in the 2nd roll. On epic it's 25/15/20/25% for base raid item (without shards/seals/explore area items. and yeah, seems EC gives the same chance as EE. not for long I guess) but only 2% for the torc on the 2nd roll. So if you are hunting only for the torc, heroic elite is the best. For the 20th end reward, you have 6% per item roll to get the torc, but as mentioned before, 20th end rewards items must be unique, so your chance is higher than that as duplicates will be rerolled. EC doesn't exist on raids, even if the loot table is there. Kinda like hard/elite/epic stats exist for most explorer area mobs but aren't ever used. The no duplicates issue means Torc is exactly 60% to be on 20ths. But getting it more often than not isn't a guarantee you'll get it. What's the effect of EN/EH/EE on shard/seal drop rates in general on old stuff? Say take the Seal of the Gloves of the Claw - what's the chance on EC/EN/EH/EE? And another question: What loot level do you need to start seeing the +6 caster items (+6 Impulse of Evocation Mastery with 3x Evoc focus, etc)? And if it's say 28, is it a 'sharp' cutoff (like all level 27 chests have +5s with +2 DC and all 28s have +6 with +3 DC) or a soft cutoff (like all level 27s are +5 but 28s have only a chance to be +6)? Finally, FRDS drop rates in VON6 please.

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Glenalth Puppy Farmer Offline Not banned, just bored Posts: 1602 Location: Albuquerque Joined: Sep 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #26 - Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 9:38pm	Print Post
	whothefuckami wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 9:33pm: And another question: What loot level do you need to start seeing the +6 caster items (+6 Impulse of Evocation Mastery with 3x Evoc focus, etc)? And if it's say 28, is it a 'sharp' cutoff (like all level 27 chests have +5s with +2 DC and all 28s have +6 with +3 DC) or a soft cutoff (like all level 27s are +5 but 28s have only a chance to be +6)? Just pulled one of those from end of Druid's Curse on hard. No loot boosts in effect.


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Rodrak Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 232 Joined: Aug 10^th, 2011	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #27 - Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 9:41pm	Print Post
	cdr wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 8:34pm: Now that's actually interesting. I don't supposed EC has the same seal/shard % as EE as well by any chance? Yup. Currently it's (raid shards/explorer shards/wizking shards/cof shards/oob shards/items): EC: 15/3/3/3/3/25 EN: 5/1/1/1/1/15 EH: 10/2/2/2/2/20 EE: 15/3/3/3/3/25 I was a bit wrong in my previous post, explorer items are on the same subtree as raid items, that's main reason why torc chance on epic is lower. EDIT: whothefuckami wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 9:33pm: EC doesn't exist on raids, even if the loot table is there. Kinda like hard/elite/epic stats exist for most explorer area mobs but aren't ever used. Sorry about that, I haven't played the game after they introduced other epic difficulties
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Rodrak Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 232 Joined: Aug 10^th, 2011	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #28 - Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 10:05pm	Print Post
	whothefuckami wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 9:33pm: The no duplicates issue means Torc is exactly 60% to be on 20ths. But getting it more often than not isn't a guarantee you'll get it. Maybe, I haven't really touched probability math for 2 decades or so. Quote: What's the effect of EN/EH/EE on shard/seal drop rates in general on old stuff? Say take the Seal of the Gloves of the Claw - what's the chance on EC/EN/EH/EE? As I wrote, I don't remember old values so can't really say. Not all places were upgraded for EC/EN/EH/EE, that was likely the bug that caused seals/shards to not drop on anything other than epic normal in some places, as old "epic" is now epic normal and non-upgraded treasure tables have only 1 difficulty. Most likely it's been fixed already. Claw of Vulkoor seal chance is 1/2/3/4% per seal on EC/EN/EH/EE. Quote: And another question: What loot level do you need to start seeing the +6 caster items (+6 Impulse of Evocation Mastery with 3x Evoc focus, etc)? And if it's say 28, is it a 'sharp' cutoff (like all level 27 chests have +5s with +2 DC and all 28s have +6 with +3 DC) or a soft cutoff (like all level 27s are +5 but 28s have only a chance to be +6)? Too long and boring to check, sorry. Especially when I haven't named half of the treasure tables for spellbonus weapons on highest levels. +6 spellbonus weapons seem to start at level 27 but I'm only quickly checking so maybe I'm missing something. And turbine can freely modify the chest levels. I wouldn't be surprised if the chests were "boosted" when the quests are initially released. Quote: Finally, FRDS drop rates in VON6 please. 30/45/60% on en/eh/ee. Crazy. When I was still playing it was 15% I think. And Tor scales weren't 100% either.
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whothefuckami Stormreaver Piker Offline Oppan Gangnam Style Posts: 599 Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #29 - Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 10:26pm	Print Post
	Rodrak wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 10:05pm: 30/45/60% on en/eh/ee. Crazy. When I was still playing it was 15% I think. And Tor scales weren't 100% either. 60% for 1d2 though? Seen piles of two of them. (Tor was 30% for 1, VON6 was 15% for 1)

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AtomicMew Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2073 Joined: Jan 12^th, 2011	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #30 - Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 11:02pm	Print Post
	Dear Rodrack, Do all desert seals drop in DQ1 side chests? Thanks, Atomicmew


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whothefuckami Stormreaver Piker Offline Oppan Gangnam Style Posts: 599 Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #31 - Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 11:10pm	Print Post
	AtomicMew wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 11:02pm: Dear Rodrack, Do all desert seals drop in DQ1 side chests? Thanks, Atomicmew Earlier he said 2% to get a raid seal, 2% to get an explorer seal. (Was 2/9 but was nerfed in U14 ) Oh for fucks fucking sake. The image of that wanker for a frown emote?
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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #32 - Aug 24^th, 2012 at 12:04am	Print Post
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Rodrak Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 232 Joined: Aug 10^th, 2011	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #33 - Aug 24^th, 2012 at 4:14am	Print Post
	whothefuckami wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 10:26pm: 60% for 1d2 though? Seen piles of two of them. (Tor was 30% for 1, VON6 was 15% for 1) Really? I don't think so, treasure_quantity is set to 1. Either: - it was 1d2 but they already changed it back in the recent updates maybe increasing the rate of the single one, - the treasure tables in the client are not updated anymore (unlikely I think, new wraps in raid are visible, it's going to end this way, but not yet, can't rule it out completely though) - or they are added via another means (some items use generators to appear, again unlikely here). I can't rule out the possibility that some "extra treasure" is rolled twice (that would be great for jewels to work like that) or that the new loot scaling is somehow buggy. The loot table for epic chest now: (shards/seals/items/scale/blood/token) EN: 10/2/12/30/3/50 EH: 15/3/18/45/3/75 EE: 20/5/25/60/3/100


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whothefuckami Stormreaver Piker Offline Oppan Gangnam Style Posts: 599 Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #34 - Aug 25^th, 2012 at 7:11am	Print Post
	Thanks for VON6 info. Question, how rare are MOTU/U15 named items? Some examples - Seal of House Dun'robar, Leaves of the Forest, Drow Khopesh of the Weapon Master And does anything else special drop in those chests (tomes, etc).

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Rodrak Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 232 Joined: Aug 10^th, 2011	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #35 - Aug 25^th, 2012 at 10:39am	Print Post
	whothefuckami wrote on Aug 25^th, 2012 at 7:11am: Thanks for VON6 info. Question, how rare are MOTU/U15 named items? Some examples - Seal of House Dun'robar, Leaves of the Forest, Drow Khopesh of the Weapon Master And does anything else special drop in those chests (tomes, etc). I haven't named treasure tables for U14/U15 stuff since I don't know the quests and doing it blindly is long and boring (look for area with the given treasure table then find the quest that's in that area) so only your examples: - Seal of House Dun'robar: 2/3/4/5% + random commendation (25/50/75/100%). On EE - 0.09% for random unbound +4 tome. - Leaves of the Forest: 4% on all difficulties, heroic normal = ml15, hard = ml16, elite = ml17 version, epic casual, normal = ml22, hard = ml23, elite = ml24. On EE again 0.09% for random unbound +4 tome. - Drow weapons are in 2 subtables. You have 1/2/3/4% for each subtable. Yet again, 0.09% for random unbound +4 tome on EE. 2nd roll: Subtable 1: Dagger & light mace = 20%, bsword, daxe, khopesh, longsword = 15%. Subtable 2: Rapier, scimitar, shortsword, greataxe, maul, qstaff = 15%, warhammer = 10%.


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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #36 - Aug 25^th, 2012 at 10:46am	Print Post
	Are those all of the possible weapon typings for Drow? If that is the case, it will helps some folks out a great deal when planning things. Rodrak, can we get a summarization of the the different raids with the Raid loot tables and percentages? Tomes are optional, but I am sure folks would love to see actual numbers for ToD rings, Large Shroud mats, Torc/SoS/etc in the raids they run frequently. If you want I can PM you a template for it, or you can use your own

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Rodrak Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 232 Joined: Aug 10^th, 2011	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #37 - Aug 25^th, 2012 at 11:02am	Print Post
	Smrti wrote on Aug 25^th, 2012 at 10:46am: Are those all of the possible weapon typings for Drow? For now, yeah. But it's very likely there will be more of them in the future as the base items are blank "drow khopesh", "drow dagger" etc. and treasure tables add all the other mutations. Quote: Rodrak, can we get a summarization of the the different raids with the Raid loot tables and percentages? Tomes are optional, but I am sure folks would love to see actual numbers for ToD rings, Large Shroud mats, Torc/SoS/etc in the raids they run frequently. If you want I can PM you a template for it, or you can use your own Bah, too much work... I'll think about it


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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #38 - Aug 25^th, 2012 at 11:16am	Print Post
	Rodrak wrote on Aug 25^th, 2012 at 11:02am: For now, yeah. But it's very likely there will be more of them in the future as the base items are blank "drow khopesh", "drow dagger" etc. and treasure tables add all the other mutations. Bah, too much work... I'll think about it My theory as of now is that most of the Drow weapons are being used to cover the obvious holes in the Raid Loot options, though there are still several missing Picks It's more for a simplistic look at how the tables are setup and how rare some of these items actually are.

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qwerty1234 Ex Member	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #39 - Aug 25^th, 2012 at 11:27am	Print Post
	Quote: Numbers for Torc were posted on the main forums a while back, not sure if they're still valid though (especially on epics): http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=326299 That has all the raid drop rates, pre-U14. Presumably the epic numbers have changed, but not the non-epic stuff like Shroud. All that information was originally from Rodrak, obviously. So we can thank him again for it now. :D
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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #40 - Aug 25^th, 2012 at 11:38am	Print Post
	Quote: That has all the raid drop rates, pre-U14. Presumably the epic numbers have changed, but not the non-epic stuff like Shroud. All that information was originally from Rodrak, obviously. So we can thank him again for it now. :D Thanks, but we may need a cross posting here since Turbine likes to be all Secret Squirrel about that shit.

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qwerty1234 Ex Member	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #41 - Aug 25^th, 2012 at 11:46am	Print Post
	Smrti wrote on Aug 25^th, 2012 at 11:38am: Thanks, but we may need a cross posting here since Turbine likes to be all Secret Squirrel about that shit. Fine.
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qwerty1234 Ex Member	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #42 - Aug 25^th, 2012 at 12:21pm	Print Post
	Rodrak wrote on Aug 25^th, 2012 at 10:39am: - Leaves of the Forest: 4% on all difficulties, heroic normal = ml15, hard = ml16, elite = ml17 version, epic casual, normal = ml22, hard = ml23, elite = ml24. On EE again 0.09% for random unbound +4 tome. Are the numbers the same for the Wall of Wood in the quest Overgrowth? Also, does the Wall drop in both Wood Woad optional chests?


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Rodrak Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 232 Joined: Aug 10^th, 2011	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #43 - Aug 25^th, 2012 at 2:37pm	Print Post
	Quote: Are the numbers the same for the Wall of Wood in the quest Overgrowth? Yup. Quote: Also, does the Wall drop in both Wood Woad optional chests? I have no freaking idea. That's the first time I heard about the item. And the quest


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popejubal Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline fnord Posts: 6364 Location: Argo Joined: Aug 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #44 - Aug 25^th, 2012 at 8:09pm	Print Post
	Rodrak wrote on Aug 25^th, 2012 at 10:39am: - Drow weapons are in 2 subtables. You have 1/2/3/4% for each subtable. Yet again, 0.09% for random unbound +4 tome on EE. 2nd roll: Subtable 1: Dagger & light mace = 20%, bsword, daxe, khopesh, longsword = 15%. Subtable 2: Rapier, scimitar, shortsword, greataxe, maul, qstaff = 15%, warhammer = 10%. I was actually going to ask about the Drow weapons tonight. Thanks for posting this. 1/2/3/4% says to me that farming on hard is the way to go. Hard isn't much harder than Normal and Elite doesn't offer much more chance of hitting that subtable than Hard does, so it looks like I was doing it the right way for me. I've also been hitting the Matron chest and the secret door chest on the way to the end chest because neither one is hard to solo on Hard and I was hoping that they might drop a Drow weapon for my Fighter. I have seen no actual evidence that either of these extra chests will drop a Drow weapon, however.

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whothefuckami Stormreaver Piker Offline Oppan Gangnam Style Posts: 599 Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #45 - Aug 25^th, 2012 at 8:47pm	Print Post
	0.09% in each chest for tomes. Wow. Ransack it in a full group (48 openings of each chest) and you get an average of 0.086 tomes...

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whothefuckami Stormreaver Piker Offline Oppan Gangnam Style Posts: 599 Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #46 - Aug 26^th, 2012 at 7:20am	Print Post
	Another question. Comes up a lot when people talk about AC tanking. Can you tell us some raid boss's to-hit on epic normal, epic hard and epic elite? Doesn't matter if Lailat, LOB, MA titans, Velah, whatever. They're probably all about the same. To-Hit comes from their base attack bonus, strength and size.

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Rodrak Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 232 Joined: Aug 10^th, 2011	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #47 - Aug 26^th, 2012 at 8:12am	Print Post
	whothefuckami wrote on Aug 26^th, 2012 at 7:20am: Can you tell us some raid boss's to-hit on epic normal, epic hard and epic elite? Doesn't matter if Lailat, LOB, MA titans, Velah, whatever. They're probably all about the same. To-Hit comes from their base attack bonus, strength and size. Nope. Unfortunately the values are auto-scaled. A few of the monsters in U15 came with definitions for en/eh/ee but most are scaled.


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Schmoe Epic Poster Offline One world, one soul Posts: 4219 Location: A chair Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #48 - Aug 26^th, 2012 at 9:26am	Print Post
	Rodrak wrote on Aug 25^th, 2012 at 11:02am: For now, yeah. But it's very likely there will be more of them in the future as the base items are blank "drow khopesh", "drow dagger" etc. and treasure tables add all the other mutations. Bah, too much work... I'll think about it I think the vault ladies should offer you boobie pics for it. I'm sure they'd be happy to contribute.

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Shade Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 43 Joined: Jan 21^st, 2011	Re: Rodrak Requests Reply #49 - Aug 26^th, 2012 at 9:33am	Print Post
	I've got one: Lords of Dusts seals.. Can you find out why they only drop on epic normal? Whats wrong with the EH/EE Tables? And whats the % for EN seals in that quest and Spinner of Shadows. Name of one to help you find it: Seal of the Templar's Justice RE: Reds in EE Dragon: Completed that 10+ times, it definetely only drops one. I got one nearly every run, so the 60% rate sounds correct.


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