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arjiwan Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Comedy! Posts: 320 Joined: Nov 17^th, 2011	Epic Abishai Items Still Relevant? Nov 14^th, 2012 at 3:11am	Print Post
	Hey guys, I need your opinion regarding Epic Abishai Items from eChrono.� Are they still relevant?� Since there are way better items now?� Not really necessarily mean the full/partial set.� Even just one item.� Just a gist perhaps or a general idea? Here are the classes (and maybe partial items): Non-TR Final Life Barb (Capped): Helm: Red dragon Armor: epic mari trinket: Litany Cloak: 45hp guard (maybe envenomed here?) Bracers: Claw Gloves: Claw Boots: Madstone Non-TR Final Life Cleric (Capped): Helm: Pirate sup false life Armor: epic inner light trinket: Litany Cloak: 45hp guard (maybe envenomed here?) Bracers: Leviks 20% hamp Gloves: Random Boots: propulsion Multi-TR, Final Life Sorc: Still TRing, no planned Items yet Multi-TR, Final Life FVS: Still TRing, no planned Items yet


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Epic Abishai Items Still Relevant? Reply #1 - Nov 14^th, 2012 at 7:09am	Print Post
	The conslutant answer: It depends. How much farming do you want to do? The U15 challenge cloaks are pretty damned cool for any archetype but require a fuckton of farming (Ring of Fire reward scaling sucks donkey balls).


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arjiwan Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Comedy! Posts: 320 Joined: Nov 17^th, 2011	Re: Epic Abishai Items Still Relevant? Reply #2 - Nov 14^th, 2012 at 7:17am	Print Post
	Thanks for the reply. I have the cloak, boots, helm to craft. Yeah, I am thinking of the the eveningstar challenges also.


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aDifferentHandle Abbot Raider Offline omg, that's the funky shit Posts: 996 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2010	Re: Epic Abishai Items Still Relevant? Reply #3 - Nov 14^th, 2012 at 8:13am	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Nov 14^th, 2012 at 7:09am: conslutant Awesome typo. I think Carpone is putting back the Ass in Asset management, and vice versa.
	« Last Edit: Nov 14^th, 2012 at 8:13am by aDifferentHandle »
	That's not opinion, that's science. And science is one cold hearted bitch with a 14 inch strap on.
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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: Epic Abishai Items Still Relevant? Reply #4 - Nov 14^th, 2012 at 9:51am	Print Post
	I still see many melee builds using 3pc abishai. No idea if it's correct, but abishai are at least even easier to acquire than ever so why not. I haven't seen a wiz or sorc build that bothers with it lately.


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Epic Abishai Items Still Relevant? Reply #5 - Nov 14^th, 2012 at 10:05am	Print Post
	It does depend. A couple of thoughts: 1) It is getting harder and harder to justify the set. Too often you are giving up a lot to squeeze in 3 of the items. Maybe one of which fits your build nicely. The other two are just there for the set bonus. I still use it on two of my toons, but I'm not sure how much longer. 2) The cloak is still the best item in the set. With +5 resist and +7 con it covers two key needs for most builds. Problem is that +7/+8 items grow on trees now days. It's loot gen. And resist up to +7 is available in the new content. So you are not getting as much value as before. The cloak slot has been a weak one traditionally, especially for melees, but the new challenge cloaks hurt that a little bit. Even if not, it has often been a good slot for a GS HP item or GS Conc Opp item. 3) They are all ML 20. If you are still going to be TR'ing, you will need an ML20 gear set. Most of the better stuff doesn't show up until Level 23-25. So unless you want to wear your ML 18 crap for another 3 levels, having some decent ML 20 epic stuff makes sense. So it's becoming a situation where Abasahi gear might not be end game, but it still has a place. If you already have it, it's more valuable than if you are trying to decide to grind chrono vs. something else. It also fits nicely on Level 20-22 toons. For about 3-4 levels it's still sweet stuff.


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Epic Abishai Items Still Relevant? Reply #6 - Nov 14^th, 2012 at 1:53pm	Print Post
	aDifferentHandle wrote on Nov 14^th, 2012 at 8:13am: Awesome typo. Not a typo.


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Torgal Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 166 Joined: Jun 30^th, 2009	Re: Epic Abishai Items Still Relevant? Reply #7 - Nov 14^th, 2012 at 2:32pm	Print Post
	They could become a lot more relevant if the revamp of slotting includes things like +8 stats, +2/3 insight, +7 resistance, superior false life, exceptional seeker, sheltering, dodge, etc.


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: Epic Abishai Items Still Relevant? Reply #8 - Nov 14^th, 2012 at 3:24pm	Print Post
	Torgal wrote on Nov 14^th, 2012 at 2:32pm: They could become a lot more relevant if the revamp of slotting includes things like +8 stats, +2/3 insight, +7 resistance, superior false life, exceptional seeker, sheltering, dodge, etc. How many dungeon tokens do you think that's going to cost though


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Torgal Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 166 Joined: Jun 30^th, 2009	Re: Epic Abishai Items Still Relevant? Reply #9 - Nov 14^th, 2012 at 3:27pm	Print Post
	cdr wrote on Nov 14^th, 2012 at 3:24pm: How many dungeon tokens do you think that's going to cost though Probably require a rare drop if they add those.


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aDifferentHandle Abbot Raider Offline omg, that's the funky shit Posts: 996 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2010	Re: Epic Abishai Items Still Relevant? Reply #10 - Nov 14^th, 2012 at 6:13pm	Print Post
	Torgal wrote on Nov 14^th, 2012 at 3:27pm: Probably require a rare drop store item if they add those. ftfy. Quote: Not a typo. Oic. Well played, Sir or Madam.

	That's not opinion, that's science. And science is one cold hearted bitch with a 14 inch strap on.
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arjiwan Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Comedy! Posts: 320 Joined: Nov 17^th, 2011	Re: Epic Abishai Items Still Relevant? Reply #11 - Nov 14^th, 2012 at 8:29pm	Print Post
	Thanks for the replies. We will just run eChrono casually since it still gives epic XP. Cheers


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Eyeran Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 53 Joined: Jul 28^th, 2012	Re: Epic Abishai Items Still Relevant? Reply #12 - Nov 14^th, 2012 at 9:55pm	Print Post
	I still use the cloak on my FvS and the gloves on my rogue.


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whothefuckami Stormreaver Piker Offline Oppan Gangnam Style Posts: 599 Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010	Re: Epic Abishai Items Still Relevant? Reply #13 - Nov 14^th, 2012 at 9:56pm	Print Post
	Torgal wrote on Nov 14^th, 2012 at 2:32pm: They could become a lot more relevant if the revamp of slotting includes things like +8 stats, +2/3 insight, +7 resistance, superior false life, exceptional seeker, sheltering, dodge, etc. Pretty sure this will be a new type of slot on new items.

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Gawna Ex Member	Re: Epic Abishai Items Still Relevant? Reply #14 - Nov 15^th, 2012 at 11:04am	Print Post
	I love finding a new slot!


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TWDiggs Mr. Infraction Offline Posts: 1841 Joined: Jul 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Epic Abishai Items Still Relevant? Reply #15 - Nov 15^th, 2012 at 11:07am	Print Post
	An even better question is. Is DDO still relevant?

	stainer wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 1:29pm: Everyday that you aren't banned, is a borrowed day. Grace wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2012 at 8:31pm: Well, you're a godless heathen, anyway. I would totally wear my rape whistle around you.
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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: Epic Abishai Items Still Relevant? Reply #16 - Nov 15^th, 2012 at 12:43pm	Print Post
	TWDiggs wrote on Nov 15^th, 2012 at 11:07am: An even better question is. Is DDO still relevant? On ddovault.com? Yes.


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Gawna Ex Member	Re: Epic Abishai Items Still Relevant? Reply #17 - Nov 15^th, 2012 at 2:01pm	Print Post
	cdr wrote on Nov 15^th, 2012 at 12:43pm: On ddovault.com? Yes.


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