Most people are retarded, so take imp sunder yerself.

Imp sunder and imp shield bash are on my "taking if not taking specialization" list. I'll have to look up just how much DPS Imp Bash is, but I suspect it's pretty decent.

My fighter can get a buffed 109 (?) intim (12/6/2 build that flip/flops between stalwart and kensai) and that utterly trivializes EE DQ which is worth running because the drop-rates are noticeably better than EH.  EE LOB is absolutely pointless but was fun the one time I was able to talk people into running it.

Getting 45-55% damage mitigation via PRR makes a huge difference in EE and you should hit that no problem.  We ran a bunch of the EE new shit this week both with and without a high PRR tank and the stuff we ran with the high-PRR tank was much easier.  Mobs just hit hard and too many DPS build for zero defense, those toons just get slaughtered.  The new pack seems to be a step up above even the Demonweb quests.

Regarding epic toughness . . . I currently have Barb PL and 3 toughness feats on my tank.  I look at taking Epic Toughness as a means of claiming back a few of those feats so you can actually get more bang for your buck if you have a high enough CON.

I'm not sure about the need for evasion anymore, and it your're gonna go S&B you want that capstone for double-strike.  Just making the reflex save is enough more often than not and the 30% doublestrike you can get is just awesome.  You can twist in for more reflex save, I believe you want about a 55 for EE content.

Trying come up with a final gearout. Have three different gearouts in a spreadsheet. This one is closest to my current gear, for general questing/soloing (separate setup for EE tanking):

Body:      Embrace of Spider Queen
+6 Heavy Armor (AB:+27, MDB:1), Insightful Str +3, Toughness, Pro Poison +6, Heavy Fort, Excep Fort (10%), DR 5/-, Knight's Loyalty upgrade

Head:            Purple Dragon Helm
Constitution +7, Insightful Strength +2, Intimidate +15, Knight's Loyalty Set Bonus

Goggles:      Tharne's Goggles
Sneak Attack Bonus +5, True Seeing, Search +15, Spot +15

Neck:            GS +45 HP

Cloak:      Cloak of Night (L24)
Invisibility Guard, Ghostly, Deathblock, Nightmare Guard, Dodge Bonus 3%, DR 10/Good

Bracer:      Twisting Shade (L25)
Exceptional Seeker +5, Blurry, Resistance +7, Disable Device +20, Search +20

Gloves:      Purple Dragon Gauntlets
Strength +7, Insightful Constitution +2, Healing Amplification - 30%, Knight's Loyalty Set Bonus

Belt:      Epic Spare Hand (3)
Doublestrike 3%, Use Magical Device +3, Riposte, Excep Combat Mastery +5, Staggering Blow, Disable Device +15, Open Lock +15, Empty Blue Slot, Empty Colorless Slot

Boots:      ?

Ring 1:      Epic Ring of the Stalker
Exceptional Sneak Attack +3, Ghostly, Seeker +6, Manslayer, Empty Yellow Slot, Empty Colorless Slot

Ring 2:      Epic Ring of Buccaneer
Dexterity +7, Good Luck +2, Protection +5, Swim +15, Underwater Action, Empty Green Augment Slot

Trinket:      Planar Focus of Prowess
Strength +8, Planar Focus: Prowess (+4 to attack and damage, +15 Physical Resistance Rating)

Hand 1:      Nightmare
+7 Bastard Sword (2.5[1d12]), Keen, Entropic, Life Stealing, Vampirism, Nightmares

Hand 2:      Air/Air/Water Tower
+6 Tower Shield (SB:+15, MDB:2, DR:12), Flametouched, Shocking Burst, Stunning +10, Heightened Awareness 4, Alchemical Dex +2, Lightning Strike, Doublestrike 6%, Freezing Gale, Empty Red Augment Slot

No idea what to do with boots, procs on Epic Rock boots are underwhelming even in EH.

No idea what effect to do on the GS HP either. Before Bracers of Twisting Shade, blurry was obvious, but Twisting Shade are awesome. Thinking about Enervation or Radiance, ConOpp proc seems underwhleming.

Buccaneer works for me because my MDB is 8. Cloak works because 3% dodge is the max I can add to my base 5%.

Have a half plate setup and a med armor (Terrorweb Chitin) setup I'm considering, but those would require more gear changes.

I don't like Treads, not in this setup. It seems like I could do something better for boots than just +dex, which is all Treads are. Unless there's a better ring than Buccaneer.

In a higher MDB setup I'd be more forced to use treads.

rest wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 11:43pm:


It doesn't, I have. The item effect just grants the feat.

If they ever fix slots, what about epic corrosion for slotting?

Oh you can slot regular epic items? I thought they were all borked. Hmm. Good to know.

cdr wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 11:21pm:


+7 dex anvithoul would replace your cove ring, and your tharnes goggles, if you can live with umd'ing true seeing.

Your bracers seem like a bit of a waste considering it's just a resit item (thinking blurry doesn't work against bosses, and you've already got seeker), it looks to me like a convalescant item of superior parrying would be more useful.

I'd make the hp item blurry personally.

I'd also just go with a plethora of boots, displace clicky, guards, fom.

Lastly I'm not sure you'll be generating enough threat in that setup, another option could be the abbot ring and treads for your dex.

SOmething I recently looked at, and maybe you know this, but IMP S.M. gives you 8% doublestrike. That negates the 6% and the 3% you have on gear atm. They don't stack i don't think.


Basically you can have:

4% shield
8% ISM
10% capstone
3% twist
9% LSM

= 34%  DS

I think you can get 5% more than that temporarily on the Fabricator's set proc. But.. yeah.

I'd never even consider a twist for 3% double-strike.

cdr wrote on Jan 16^th, 2013 at 11:56am:


I used to say the same thing, though i've now changed my mind and value the 5% amp from paladin more than 10hp.

hell i reckon arti is better now too, given how close all my toons are getting to 39 umd.