I need to make a new character for the bank space. I may or may not end up playing it, but just in case, what's awesome?

I've always sort of wanted a staff build. That video got posted of a WF 16arti/2pal/2mnk w/Sireth looked interesting, but not a lot of info about it.

Currently already playing or TRing:
-S&B dps/prr fighter
-Sorc
-Melee cleric
-Melee/ranged rogue

Alt Account:

Bard with traps skills and finding marks.

Haggle
Chest blessing
Easy epics


Same account:

idk

Barbarian / Human for Healing amp

rest wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 1:10pm:


Oh, I know what you mean. Still, the idea of good buffs + self healing + melee is tempting. Probably not good w/arti though. Maybe some sort of druid, I have zero experience with druids.

What didn't you like about druid?

Druid 13 monk 6 fighter 1 half elf with rogue diletante.

Ninja spy and Nature's warrior in wolf form for more sneak damage, although two handed fighting with quarterstaff you would lose some SA benefit. On the plus side the effects from staffs work in animal form, although you can't see yourself whacking away at the monster.

At a minimum, feats are toughness, power attack, natural fighting three times and dodge.

That leaves seven feats if I count right, which could be from mobility and spring attack to help max out dodge, moar toughness, cleave, improved sunder, etc. Guess you could do empower heal to help with better self healing. I wouldn't. I am not 100% sure what the THF line would do on glancing blows in animal form. If it adds effects it might be worth taking at least the first two. 

With +2 tomes you need 11 starting DEX to get dodge, might as well make it 12 to even out.  Not having the planner in front of me, maybe 16 STR and CON, and 14 WIS. All level ups to strength.

Use the full villagers set including the staff. Nat Ganns might be an ok choice too. Anything else to boost double strike and sneak damage like the cloak of the wolf.

Note, I am not saying this is a good build. but it would use quarterstaffs, probably be fairly survivable and could be very flexible in weapons, ie you could swap between staves and a set of shortswords or kamas. Make sure the offhand weapon in that case is effects like seeker of backstabbing that do carry over in natural weapons. You could occasionally drop out of form if you wanted to see yourself hit something with a stick.

I've finally gotten round to making a full retard horc barb.  When I have a dedicated healer it's actually kinda fun.

Rogues are kinda hard to level, but if you ever play it to cap, they're really versatile and insane dps.

Well skip druid then.

I made a rogue acrobat/monk using a qstaff. She's only level 12 right now, but she's pretty fun. I didn't actually have too much trouble with her at early levels, but I also started her at lvl 4. If you start at lvl 7, even better.

Throwing out this qstaff build:
Human 13 rogue/6 fighter/1 druid

Thief acrobat 2/kensei 1

32 point build with +2 tomes
Str 17
Dex 11
Con 16
Int 14
Wis 8
Cha 8

All levelups into strength. Buy 3 strength through action points from human and fighter.

Druid level exists solely for Rams Might and Shillelagh spells. With that and easy to grind gear, you can get 40 strength before rage, primal scream, tencers, madstone, etc.

Thief acrobat 2 for the 20% competence attack speed boost with staff.

Kensei for the damage boost of course.

Feats include weapon focus and specialization, plus improved critical bludgeoning, stunning blow, power attack, dodge, toughness, THF, ITHF, GTHF, cleave, great cleave. There's room to fit something else like improved sunder, improved trip or more toughness.

Rogue special abilities of improved evasion and opportunist.

Damage should be respectable, especially when someone else has aggro, but with power attack, high strength, kensei and fighter enhancements and the boost from Shillelagh the first number is half decent. Criticals would be lackluster because of the low multiplier, but with haste boost, haste and acrobat boost to attack speed you'll get a lot of attacks in. 

HP will be north of 500 and 40ish saves with nothing extraordinary added or farmed. Add full trap skills and UMD and you have a fairly decent contributor. With charisma dumped, bluff may or may not be worth investing in. Respectable gear is easy through challenges and commendations, focusing on the woodsman set.

Weaknesses will be doublestrike - spare hand and opportunist only add a little, and as with all light armor builds, PRR. Action points will be tight too.

For leveling I'd go rogue/fighter/druid and then rotate rogue and fighter to level 13, then pure rogue. That front loads feats and gives you druid buffs early on. You do have to take level 19 if you want the acrobat 2 prestige in heroic levels.

spathic wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 2:03pm:


This is the worst build that I've ever seen, anywhere. You should throw your computer off the roof and then light yourself on fire.

spathic wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 4:38pm:


You don't have to jump as long as you've set yourself on fire. I'm no tyrant.

Changed my mind.

You should make one of those Juggernaut arty things.

They look interesting but I can't bring myself to spend
time making one myself due to being lazy.