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Khopeshes in your off hand if not proficient?
Jan 19th, 2013 at 4:05am
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Ok folks, I was considering trialling an Epic Elemental Khopesh for the Freezing Ice / imp paralysing effects in my offhand on my melee FvS (who has no proficiency) rather than my current paralysing sets, but my running partner reckons they changed how off hand works with non proficient weapons to only be glancing blows, and so it would never proc. Can anyone point me to this or suggest a likely bunch of useful targets to test on? I can always give it to my khopesh using melee bard if its a bust if I need to make one to test it.
  
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Reply #1 - Jan 19th, 2013 at 4:19am
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why not try out a random loot khopesh to see if you like how it procs... plenty of freezing ice khopesh on the argo AH
  

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JDollar wrote on Jan 19th, 2013 at 4:19am:
why not try out a random loot khopesh to see if you like how it procs... plenty of freezing ice khopesh on the argo AH


Yeah, I will have to do that I think - I am stingy sometimes. Smiley The dummy won't work for it though, right? Nor will portals? Any other easy options for not massively dangerous bags of hit points?
  
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Terebinthia wrote on Jan 19th, 2013 at 4:26am:
Yeah, I will have to do that I think - I am stingy sometimes. Smiley The dummy won't work for it though, right? Nor will portals? Any other easy options for not massively dangerous bags of hit points?


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Terebinthia wrote on Jan 19th, 2013 at 4:26am:
Yeah, I will have to do that I think - I am stingy sometimes. Smiley The dummy won't work for it though, right? Nor will portals? Any other easy options for not massively dangerous bags of hit points?


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JDollar wrote on Jan 19th, 2013 at 6:19am:
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LMAO, yeah. Can you tell I'm not very good at this testing thing? Cheesy
  
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Terebinthia wrote on Jan 19th, 2013 at 6:58am:
LMAO, yeah. Can you tell I'm not very good at this testing thing? Cheesy


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JDollar wrote on Jan 19th, 2013 at 6:19am:
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Those frakkin dogs in Lords of Dust - only purpose in existing is to slow us down.Huge bags of hit points and minimal risk.
  
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Reply #10 - Jan 19th, 2013 at 10:11am
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I don't recall anything special about 2WF under MOTU, but since MOTU you lose 25% to-hit when non-proficient. I guess I would assume the +miss would apply to the off-hand attacks only.

At the very least you're going to have to be OK with missing 25% offhand on top of whatever your miss is already.

Wielding nonproficient is not something generally done these days.
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karatekid wrote on Jan 19th, 2013 at 7:49am:
Those frakkin dogs in Lords of Dust - only purpose in existing is to slow us down.Huge bags of hit points and minimal risk.


the reason you use pvp to test is because its a controlled environment (dont go the pvptard pit on your server, on argo its the lobster) And you can get data back from both your own combat log and your friends, they can modify their fortification as needed.
  

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Terebinthia wrote on Jan 19th, 2013 at 6:58am:
LMAO, yeah. Can you tell I'm not very good at this testing thing? Cheesy


well that why you ask right! its not foolish to ask questions, its foolish to grind gear and not ask questions!
  

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Warlock Sobrien on ehClaw should work for testing that.
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spathic wrote on Jan 19th, 2013 at 7:01am:
You are fooling no one, Turbine developer.


Wrong continent Smiley

Sobrien is a good idea if I cant bully a long suffering running mate into pvp Smiley
  
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one thing i will say is -25% to hit is not ideal for a bard
  

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JDollar wrote on Jan 19th, 2013 at 9:06pm:
one thing i will say is -25% to hit is not ideal for a bard


Nah, its for my FvS which is a melee debuffer / cc person in the main. The bard uses khopeshes Smiley
  
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Terebinthia wrote on Jan 19th, 2013 at 6:14pm:
Sobrien is a good idea if I cant bully a long suffering running mate into pvp Smiley


i'll be about this aft if you need a body to rough up. i know it would be much more fun beating the other one up, but you can pretend, right?
  
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Mara wrote on Jan 20th, 2013 at 4:27am:
i'll be about this aft if you need a body to rough up. i know it would be much more fun beating the other one up, but you can pretend, right?


You'll whinge less Wink

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