Munkenmo wrote on Jun 10^th, 2013 at 3:39pm:


Honestly there are times that EH is all I'm going to be running for a quest. Whether it be because EE on that particular quest doesn't mesh well with my current build, because I want to PUG and actually complete and not be dragging stones with me to get it done, or because there isn't enough reward to running EE to warrant doing so based on my goal at the moment.

Now, this doesn't go for all EE builds but with the one I'm dealing with currently (my awful arcane archer version of this druid/monk/fighter build) if I were to remove cleave/great cleave/overwhelming critical it would be less powerful for anything but EE. There are several builds I've seen like that - they're perfect for EE and only EE but they just flat kill slower when you're zerg'ing and mass killing.

Given the issues with game population right now if I have a build that can't solo every EE by itself quickly and with ease then I want an option to do aoe damage. It may not matter that much in EE where you're playing careful and pulling just a few mobs at a time but it makes EH's and below much quicker and easier to finish.

Darkrok wrote on Jun 15^th, 2013 at 5:29pm:


That drove me crazy.  Had to relog to get it to quit...  Just needed coconuts to clap together.

Darkrok wrote on Jun 17^th, 2013 at 2:56pm:


Does that STILL happen? Most in my guild bug reported that when druid came out...

And....Druid Wolf/Bear forms might be fun for Heroic flavor build.

Some of the Animal form abilities/spells may be "cool" but
with the clumsy attack animation and annoying delays in animal form attacks the extra goodies from being in form might as well be a steaming pile of corn laden turds.

I *do* swap to winter wolf for a situational Snowslide but building around animal forms for heroic leveling is never a good idea....unless you just want fun different flavor....in that case carry on.

Luxgolg wrote on Jun 18^th, 2013 at 9:34am:


It did on my last druid life. 

Umm..  For me, it had something to do with repeaters being equipped/used while in form.  I've generally been taking one arty levels on my tr's for traps, umd, and low level repeater usage.

QuantumFX wrote on Jun 20^th, 2013 at 10:32am:


This is what's making me question this build on anything but monk or fighter lives. The feats are just so tight that if you drop the fighter 9 or the monk 9 it gets much harder to fit everything in. Ranger for example gives tons of feats but none of which help the primary goals of this build. Barbarian gives no feats. Arti gives none that help, etc.

In order to make a ranger version with improved critical: bludgeoning work you can't go with the monk 2 splash and still get all 3 natural fighting feats during heroic levels. That's because natural fighting has to come at 12, 15, and 18 and must be a level-based feat. Improved Critical requires a BAB of 8+. Druid 9 gives 6 BAB so assuming we front-load the druid levels (the entire point of the build) we can't take Improved Critical on a class level until level 12. That means we'd have to take Fighter 2 for our splash since it allows us to take that 2nd fighter level whenever we want and pick up iCrit: Bludgeoning.

Front-loading the ranger levels doesn't help either as we have to have 9 druid levels by level 12 to take natural fighting. The only other option would be to stay pure druid all the way to 9 and then splash but the splashes are what allow us to afford feats like cleave, great cleave, and toughness early in the leveling curve.

I'm still debating this as my next life will be a ranger past life and I'd love to stay with this framework...but 3 less feats would probably mean dumping stunning fist, maximize, and quicken.

I can definitely attest to this build on both the monk and fighter lives does very good damage. Especially if you go with the rogue dilettante and abuse stunning fist/improved deception. It's just very feat intensive both in number of feats and where those feats fit in to the leveling structure.

I wonder about whether druid's the right choice with ranger at all. I love the HoT's that druid provides but there's so many ways you can build out a ranger thanks to those 11 levels providing almost everything you need on a TWF or ranged toon. I still don't have the kama's though (just not enough time spent in the shroud to get those done) so not experiencing that kind of colors my experience a bit.

Mabye I'll try that build you have listed there though. I'm as much of a passage dragonmark junky as you are so that could definitely be fun.

I never really feel the need to bust out ice storms and such. Cleave/great cleave kills so fast with reaving roar I could count on one hand the times I actually needed ice storm. Whatever build you use Cleave/Great Cleave needs to be a part. For melee toons that's where it's at for zerg'ing heroics (as well as Whirlwind if you're lousy with feats). Not that having that ice storm in the back pocket is a bad thing...I just never find myself fighting long enough to get good bang for the sp's.

Mokune wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 10:03am:


See, I'm hooked on wolf cleaves/trips. I call my wolf form Flipsy.

I'm pretty excited to see what builds and splits come from the Enh Pass. 

Which 2 Kamas are you using Munk?  Min2 and Lit2 or a Concop?

I really liked the survivabiltiy that having dual Hp proc chances during some of my PLs (HP +Fear Immunity Goggles and Khopesh 15%NegAbs,GoodBurst ,30%Hamp) The SP are nice too but having 2 Concop items allowed me to survive quite a few lag spikes.

So I just finished running coal chamber with some pugs.

There's now some poor schmuck on Sarlona who's making a new "Summoner" from scratch, because they were so impressed my dog managed to get 244 kills.

Even had him Totally convinced that each druid past life and makes a very noticeable difference.

(My dog is called Misadventure)