New player here. First character.

Let's say I picked BS over Kope on a TWFing build. What should I look for, to make the character not suck later on?

Currently Ro1 Ftr2 Rgr1.

How are these people finding the Vault? Google?

Kopeshes are garbage in epic levels. Bastard swords are a fine choice because the single best one-hander right now is a bastard sword. If you're just talking heroic, they're pretty similar.

2WF is somewhat behind 2HF in power and has been for years. Not that big of a deal though. 2WF is especially poor at the lowest levels though, as a lot of the 2WF stuff is backloaded while you get 2HF power up front.

Not sure what "later on" is for you. You'll probably have a much easier time if you look up someone else's build and follow it than flail around on your own.

Cairnoir wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2013 at 2:34am:


I was just trying not to be helpful. To post "reroll" was kind of unoriginal, so I just went for Fred.

I am maybe the worst person you could ask about builds, after my friend The Barbarian Dwarf Possesed By The Menstruating Spirit Of Shade.

cdr wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2013 at 2:07am:


Yes I'm here thanks (or curses depending on your point of view) to Google. "ddo forum" puts you here right after the official forums. And I found a lot more insightful posts here than there.

Munkenmo wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2013 at 3:03am:


You mean the DDO forums? I'll look for your name there.

Khops for long time outclassed everything else, but new named khops are useless and best ( non rogue ) twf weapons are Balizarde ( rapier/piercing ), Nightmare ( bastard/slashing ).
You get free feat change or can pay Fred later to swap a feat, there's nothing wrong with going khops in heroics until you run Caught in the Web.
Holy, Coruscating, Bloodletting, Impellent, Pure good, all good prefix/affixes. Random gen loot got fucked, so don't know if you still can get crap like this, every thing is Ghostbane/Deception or whatever.
Pair of Lightning 2 khops is still best shit for TRing ( maybe rare wounding of puncturing beats it on trash ).

Oh yeah, and forget twf until you get improved twf feat, go cleave/great cleave/power attack + fat two hander.

So much for fully upgraded Balizarde, eh ?

Agree with above.  Dual Nightmares is what my fighter uses.  It's nasty.  Invest in some Healing Amp and the Vamprism also makes you pretty much self healing without even needing to cocoon in any EH content or below. 

Khopeshes were THE shit for years.  But Turbine clearly decided to not support the Khopesh Fetish they had created in the player base and left any named Khopeshes out of the last few releases except for Allegiance, which was purposefully shitty.  It's actually an example of what we always asked for.  Rather than nerfing the Khopesh crit multipler, they chose to introduce other options and leveled the playing field. 

You really can't go wrong with either, but the Bastard Swords have the upper hand right now, even with the lower crit multiplier. 

Side Note:  When leveling, to heroic cap a pair of GS Khopeshes is still your best option.  The base damage and crit profile are really tough to beat at that point.

Double Side Note:  With your class split it occurs to me that you might be looking to go more rogue and get a lot of DPS from sneak attacks.  If that's the case, then the Rapiers is the way to go.  Make a radiance GS rapier for leveling and use Balizarde later.

If you end up going rapiers be sure to pick up a sacrficial dagger(s) at 20 which will give you the warm fuzzy woo woo feeling as well.

Hooray for fixed 40 th Citw and Pinion, ready to TR.
1)1 Nightmare ( I lost rolls to 2 rogues, 1 wizzy ),pair of lit2s, every version of drow khop, Epic Pinkblade ( for shopping !)
2)Fully upgraded Baliz, pair of Celestias, Agony, pair of those Fot swords ( YES!)

/roll d2
Got some 40 spare comms. Nightmare looks gay ( important !).
Chronic indecision: A constantly reocurring or persistent inability to make up one's mind; perpetual doubt concerning two or more possible alternatives or courses of action.

Derp, I forgot, oh yes.
Tried pure kensei for 2 weeks with free lr, it's cool but squishy as hell and needs healer.
While 6 or 12 ranger is awesome, I am gonna  make her  with pally splash, so 12 fighter/ 6 monk /2 pally, if it sucks ( no Derpwood positive no Emp heal ), still got 20 heart.
We need 4 class multiclassing, I would take ranger too !

Cairnoir wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2013 at 3:12am:

Brilliant. Also you can read here, the official forum for DDO is eyebleed.