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First life solo Bard
Sep 3rd, 2013 at 11:01am
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Gotten bored with TR and World of Tanks. Any fun to be had in a solo Bard? Someone have a post U19 build?
  

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Re: First life solo Bard
Reply #1 - Sep 4th, 2013 at 3:56am
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these days, bards can get decent strength early by dipping cleric/fvs for divine might
you can also dip barbarian and enjoy your stacking rages while they last
you can also dip ranger for 75 devotion
  
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Reply #2 - Sep 4th, 2013 at 9:15pm
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16 bard 2 fighter 2 rogue is still very good imo.....virtuoso (I know it's spellsinger now, I still call it virtuoso because Virtuoso of the Sword sounds better than Spellsinger.....) melee bard is the way to go imo...fascinate a bunch of enemies and beat em down one at a time, when you have an orange named or only 1 tough enemy that isn't named: song of capering his ass and beat him down.

Evasion, trap skills, and bonus feats also never hurt Smiley
  

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Reply #3 - Sep 5th, 2013 at 9:37am
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kierg10 wrote on Sep 4th, 2013 at 9:15pm:
16 bard 2 fighter 2 rogue is still very good imo.....virtuoso (I know it's spellsinger now, I still call it virtuoso because Virtuoso of the Sword sounds better than Spellsinger.....) melee bard is the way to go imo...fascinate a bunch of enemies and beat em down one at a time, when you have an orange named or only 1 tough enemy that isn't named: song of capering his ass and beat him down.

Evasion, trap skills, and bonus feats also never hurt Smiley


This sounds interesting. Could you point me towards a build I might copy? SA work on a fascinated mob?
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Reply #4 - Sep 5th, 2013 at 12:38pm
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Fascination breaks when you hit the mob, so you might get SA on the first hit, but after, no.
  
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Reply #5 - Sep 5th, 2013 at 6:14pm
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Luxgolg wrote on Sep 5th, 2013 at 9:37am:
This sounds interesting. Could you point me towards a build I might copy? SA work on a fascinated mob?


hm I don't know where I stored my build for this....I'll go check....
  

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Reply #6 - Sep 6th, 2013 at 10:47pm
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hm can't find it, so basically what i would do:

human bard 16/fighter 2/rogue 2

str 16
dex 12
con 14
int 14
wis 8
cha 14

skills: max search/disable, in bard levels always get: perform umd

first level rogue obv, after that just whatever

feats needed:
power attack/cleave/great cleave/overwhelming critical*epic feat*
quicken/maximize/extend (self healing/self healing/haste rage displace)
Improved critical:whatever weapon type you use
inspire excellence *epic feat*

optional feats:
thf/ithf/gthf (assuming two handed fighting really)

so if you took as heroic feats cleave/gcleave/power attack/ic:weapon type/extend/max/quick/thf/ithf/gthf then inspire excellence (note you need 20 trained ranks, so make sure you get those ... I messed that up when I did this type of build and was really pissed) and OC for epic feats at 21 and 24 and you're good Cheesy
  

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Reply #7 - Sep 8th, 2013 at 1:08am
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Any bard/barb builds out there right now?
  
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Reply #8 - Sep 8th, 2013 at 4:49am
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Before U19, one could do 16/2/2 with 2 barb and either 2 fighter or 2 rogue.

Another interesting approach I saw was 8bard/6fgt/6bard. Depending on the core abilities you want, this might work as a 12bard/4fgt/4barb or 12/6/2 as well.
  

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Reply #9 - Sep 8th, 2013 at 8:32am
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tachyon wrote on Sep 8th, 2013 at 1:08am:
Any bard/barb builds out there right now?


bards get skaldic rage in the warchanter tree, which gives a boost to strength but not con.....but still allows casting.

Fighter lvls or rogue levels are simply superior since you can get the same boost to str from that and still melee.
  

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Reply #10 - Sep 8th, 2013 at 2:00pm
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Though you miss out on evasion (I am skeptical as to how much use you could get out of it anyway, given the saves needed now), 16 Bard/x Ranger/x Cleric or FVS is solid on melee DPS and with survivability with all the positive spellpower available. Human, of course.

16 Bard/3 Ranger/1 FVS is my preference. Pretty solid saves through base saves and enhancements, Haste Boost from Tempest, and some sneak die from DWS along with the obvious positive spellpower. Tier Five would be Warchanter for the crit multi, but an argument could be made for Spellsinger.

Should be able to sport ~60 strength once geared a little and be relatively durable with medium armor PRR, displacement, and ghostly on some slot.
  

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Reply #11 - Sep 8th, 2013 at 2:03pm
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Vissarion wrote on Sep 8th, 2013 at 2:00pm:
Tier Five would be Warchanter for the crit multi

Is that thing even working?
  

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Reply #12 - Sep 8th, 2013 at 2:22pm
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aDifferentHandle wrote on Sep 8th, 2013 at 2:03pm:
Is that thing even working?


Dunno. I TRed my old bard into a Juggernaut a while back and am only now considering LRing a defunct Stalwart Defender into a THF bard. I would not be surprised if the ability is bugged, given Turbine's track record.
  

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Reply #13 - Sep 8th, 2013 at 3:33pm
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Just thought of an interesting build:

16 bard/3 barbarian/fighter 1 dwarf

max your con out completely. 20 starting, all level up points, etc.

get throw your weight around:axes from the dwarf enhancement tree (allows +con to axe damage)

go THF... have enough str for PA/cleave/gcleave, and enough cha to cast spells, then get song of vigor (the heal over time one) from virtuoso tree hit yourself with that, then rage (barb rage) and start cleave/gcleave/supreme cleaving to your hearts content :3

Take warchanter tier 5 for +1 crit multi.....

Would be interesting imo with medium armour on top of all your other buffs.

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Reply #14 - Sep 10th, 2013 at 9:11am
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I think the +1 crit multiplier works, but I have only anecdotal evidence. Thing is, I took Overwhelming Crit at the same time as Howl of the North. My crit damage roughly doubled.

I've started a discussion about the effectiveness of Howl of the North here: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/422354-Howl-of-the-North-worth-it-some...
Not very exciting reading though

I have three levels of barbarian on my bard. I used them to snag Supreme Cleave. In LD, it's too much clicking, but when farming other destinies, another cleave is okay.
  
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Reply #15 - Sep 10th, 2013 at 11:50am
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crunch wrote on Sep 10th, 2013 at 9:11am:
I think the +1 crit multiplier works, but I have only anecdotal evidence. Thing is, I took Overwhelming Crit at the same time as Howl of the North. My crit damage roughly doubled.

I've started a discussion about the effectiveness of Howl of the North here: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/422354-Howl-of-the-North-worth-it-some...
Not very exciting reading though

I have three levels of barbarian on my bard. I used them to snag Supreme Cleave. In LD, it's too much clicking, but when farming other destinies, another cleave is okay.


does howl of the north turn off power attack? I was under the assumption that you could activate both O.o
  

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Reply #16 - Sep 11th, 2013 at 5:28am
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you can have both
  
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Reply #17 - Sep 11th, 2013 at 8:29am
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crunch wrote on Sep 11th, 2013 at 5:28am:
you can have both


k, I tested it yesterday also :3
  

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Reply #18 - Sep 14th, 2013 at 10:29am
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If you're doing a human Bard consider the treasure boosting Dragonmarks.
  
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Reply #19 - Sep 14th, 2013 at 12:50pm
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Astraghal wrote on Sep 14th, 2013 at 10:29am:
If you're doing a human Bard consider the treasure boosting Dragonmarks.


please never post that again.

Waste of a feat on a feat starved class.

Also waste of APs to boost it up.
  

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Reply #20 - Sep 14th, 2013 at 2:47pm
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I LR's my 16bard/2fighter/2rogue into 16Bard/2Ranger/2Rogue. 

2 Ranger is way better than 2 fighter:
Multishot with pinion - those ranger feats really help qualify for it. 
Ranger Enhancements has the 100% returning arrows, ranger has 75 devotion.
  

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Reply #21 - Sep 14th, 2013 at 8:07pm
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higgildypiggildy wrote on Sep 14th, 2013 at 2:47pm:
I LR's my 16bard/2fighter/2rogue into 16Bard/2Ranger/2Rogue. 

2 Ranger is way better than 2 fighter:
Multishot with pinion - those ranger feats really help qualify for it. 
Ranger Enhancements has the 100% returning arrows, ranger has 75 devotion.


Ranger only has 75 devotion until patch 2.
  

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Reply #22 - Sep 16th, 2013 at 5:29am
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I was thinking of doing a Bard 16/Ftr 2/Rog 2. Not sure if most of the Warchanter enhancements are worth getting anymore compared to what you can get from the Spellsinger tree. I wouldn't even bother with Ironskin Chant or Inspire Recklessness, the +1's here and there don't seem significant compared to ED's and the current level of power creep.
  
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Reply #23 - Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:06am
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kierg10 wrote on Sep 14th, 2013 at 12:50pm:
please never post that again.

Waste of a feat on a feat starved class.

Also waste of APs to boost it up.


Loot boost is one of the best things you can bring to a group. That alone should guarantee you a spot in any raid. It's not like the game is hard anymore. Also fitting in feats has never been easier than it is now.
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