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Reply #25 - Sep 15th, 2013 at 12:23am
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aDifferentHandle wrote on Sep 14th, 2013 at 1:42am:
1. What endgame?
2. As the current plans are, ED PLs are tied to a sphere which makes a minimum of 4 different feats. Ofc, they could always add a choice of different PLs tied to one sphere, but I'd be surprised if there'd be a more-than-minimal version for starters.
3. It sounds like the grind is not going from 20 to 28, but rather collecting the 'points' to be allowed to TR from 28 needs some work. For destinies which are not off-destinies, this fits well to playing endgame.

They did in fact state that there will be more than one past life per sphere. 

As far as speculation, my impression from the thread be that they'll start with 2-3 per sphere and add more as time goes.
  
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Re: Epic TR
Reply #26 - Sep 15th, 2013 at 6:06pm
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AtomicMew wrote on Sep 15th, 2013 at 12:23am:
They did in fact state that there will be more than one past life per sphere. 

As far as speculation, my impression from the thread be that they'll start with 2-3 per sphere and add more as time goes. 


By start with 2-3 per sphere and add more do you mean start with 2-3 per sphere, lose focus and go in another direction?
  

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Reply #27 - Sep 15th, 2013 at 6:21pm
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spathic wrote on Sep 15th, 2013 at 6:06pm:
By start with 2-3 per sphere and add more do you mean start with 2-3 per sphere, lose focus and go in another direction?

Winner winner chicken dinner.

FFS, Turbine still hasn't delivered on a third divine epic destiny.  After the War Priest debacle, I don't know if I want them to.
  
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Re: Epic TR
Reply #28 - Sep 16th, 2013 at 1:18pm
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Carpone wrote on Sep 15th, 2013 at 6:21pm:
Winner winner chicken dinner.

FFS, Turbine still hasn't delivered on a third divine epic destiny.  After the War Priest debacle, I don't know if I want them to.


This.  I know that ED's aren't supposedly "linked" to classes, but come on.  Exalted Angel is clearly the FvS tree and Unyielding Sentinel is clearly the Pally tree.  So the one that's missing is Cleric.  Again.  Cleric's get the shaft.  Is there any other original class that had fewer PrE's in the old system?  Is there a class that was more clearly shit on than Clerics in the Enhancement Pass (prior to War Priest.  Which isn't great, but isn't a shit sandwich either)? 

And still the only class without an ED?  Druid got an ED before them?  And Druids came out AFTER the ED stuff? 

It's just stupid.  And I don't even play a cleric.  (For all the reasons above, plus FvS rock.)
  
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Re: Epic TR
Reply #29 - Sep 16th, 2013 at 1:47pm
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Asheras wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 1:18pm:
This.  I know that ED's aren't supposedly "linked" to classes, but come on.  Exalted Angel is clearly the FvS tree and Unyielding Sentinel is clearly the Pally tree.  So the one that's missing is Cleric.  Again.  Cleric's get the shaft.  Is there any other original class that had fewer PrE's in the old system?  Is there a class that was more clearly shit on than Clerics in the Enhancement Pass (prior to War Priest.  Which isn't great, but isn't a shit sandwich either)? 

And still the only class without an ED?  Druid got an ED before them?  And Druids came out AFTER the ED stuff? 

It's just stupid.  And I don't even play a cleric.  (For all the reasons above, plus FvS rock.)



I like clerics a lot.. Unfortunately, my "cleric" has been TRing till some of this crap gets shaken out..
  

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Re: Epic TR
Reply #30 - Sep 16th, 2013 at 1:56pm
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Asheras wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 1:18pm:
Druid got an ED before them?  And Druids came out AFTER the ED stuff? 



Epic Fail.
Druids came along with the ED stuff.

Druids = MoTU
ED = MoTU

  

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Reply #31 - Sep 16th, 2013 at 2:14pm
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Carpone wrote on Sep 15th, 2013 at 6:21pm:
Winner winner chicken dinner.

FFS, Turbine still hasn't delivered on a third divine epic destiny.  After the War Priest debacle, I don't know if I want them to.

I'm surprised more people aren't angry about this. They were a paid-for feature too. "You might get some more one day, but after these other things" is just not good enough.

Maybe people just gave up on caring or believing and left the game instead.
  
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Re: Epic TR
Reply #32 - Sep 16th, 2013 at 2:30pm
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Carpone wrote on Sep 15th, 2013 at 6:21pm:
Winner winner chicken dinner.

FFS, Turbine still hasn't delivered on a third divine epic destiny.  After the War Priest deacle, I don't know if I want them to.


Also missing is an Artificer based ED. One that was an extension of Battle Engineer with INT based bonuses to Doublestrike/shot, fortification bypass and attack speed plus more powerful weapon infusions, etc would work. Pair that with a caster cleric ED where you can get Necro and Evoke boosts, spell pen and maybe some shiradi-like 'add light damage to each spell that causes damage' effect. Whatever, something thematically appropriate.

Then at a minimum a few other roles that are really missing:
Two Weapon Fighting based ED - gain full strength on offhand attacks, lose all attack penalties, better PRR, allow full offhand attacks on non ranger splashed characters.
Pale Master based ED - nuff said
Savant ED - something giving damage boosts that gives an option other than Shiradi.
Melee divine - Wisdom boosts with <deity favored weapon>, full BAB equivalent, improved PRR, divine might and other melee buffs etc as SLAs
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Re: Epic TR
Reply #33 - Sep 16th, 2013 at 2:41pm
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Flav wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 1:56pm:
Epic Fail.
Druids came along with the ED stuff.

Druids = MoTU
ED = MoTU


But the ED which was modelled after druids (primal avatar) was added in a later patch.
  

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Re: Epic TR
Reply #34 - Sep 16th, 2013 at 4:07pm
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aDifferentHandle wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 2:41pm:
But the ED which was modelled after druids (primal avatar) was added in a later patch.


Yes.  Thanks.  I was referring to the U16 changes after U14.  I misstated that druids came out after U14.
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Re: Epic TR
Reply #35 - Sep 16th, 2013 at 6:23pm
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Well, it is a whole lot better than their original plan.
  
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