32-point True Neutral Dwarf Bard 16/Fighter 2/Rogue 2

Abilities

Str: 18 (max)
Dex: 10 (up from 8 to take Dodge with a +3 tome)
Con: 16
Int: 8
Wis: 8
Cha: 10 (rest here)

Skills

Balance 10 or Open Lock: 20 (not sure if Open Lock is worth it)
Disable Device: 20
Perform: 20
Search: 20
Tumble: 1
UMD: 23

Rest in Balance or Concentration (doubt if Concentration is worth it anymore).

Feats

Power Attack
Two-Handed Fighting
Extend Spell
Improved Two-Handed Fighting
Improved Critical: Slashing
Cleave
Greater Two-Handed Fighting
Great Cleave
*Toughness or Dodge (not sure if Dodge is worth it)

Inspire Excellence
Overwhelming Critical
*Epic Toughness

If I drop the idea of Dodge, I can start with 8 Dex and put rest in Cha. I could take Toughness somewhere along the way and unlock Epic Toughness at level 27. I won't bother going into the enhancements yet, but I'm not going to dip into the Warchanter tree much. I'll be in Legendary Dreadnought ED with Blitz running as often as possible.

Am I missing anything else major here, or does this build look okay? I'm worried that having not had any experience with Rogues, I may be overlooking something there.

Arkat wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 8:23am:


I was attracted to that synergy, but I highly doubt I could reach EE trip benchmarks. I've played a 16/4 split already, so splashing 2 Rogue was sort of my gift to the group.

Any idea if tactics are factored into the Lay Waste trip DC?

The idea of a trippy Bard is interesting if you consider a PDK version with a 2 FvS splash. Stats end up starting thin if you go TWF but it looks like you can get enough STR for PA, enough INT for CE to get Improved Trip, and as long as you keep your CHA greater than STR you get 1/3 of your CHA mod to tactics. Add Divine Might for CHA bonus to STR and it looks like you could get both in the 40's, with a trip DC of mid-70s.

I'm gonna flesh this out when I get some time. It would make a great improvement over my current craptastic bard.

It's been a long time and I haven't revamped this toon since the Enh Pass but you can do the same type of thing with a Warforged. Obviously the healing penalties sting a bit but the plus side is that you can go Epic Blademark's and still get evasion. There was a time I was running stunning blow, improved sunder, and trip all 3 on a pure warforged bard and getting good mileage out of it.

Not sure if Epic Blademark's still fits in as an end-game armor but it's not bad...blue and colorless slots, +40 false life, 10% more fort added to the already crazy fort bonuses you can take on a forged now. Certainly could do worse. And yeah, staff with felling the oak would work really well on that build. Run in Dreadnaught for even more knockdowns.

Starkjade wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 6:30pm:

Because Turbine.

You're a dwarf.  If you're using axes, then why not Throw Your Weight Around with a more focused CON build?

Two advantages.
-People would stop trying to kill you for better loot.
-People would train harder for the greater challenge of successfully killing you for better loot, thus increasing the skill level of the group as a whole.

It's a win win situation for you.