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Reply #25 - Oct 28th, 2013 at 10:27am
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Well they obviously know they can't actually fix the bug. Or if they do "fix" it, it will reappear. So this is their solution. Kind of funny, and if the big fix itself wasn't buggy, it's kind of clever. But Turbine obviously can't do clever.
  
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Reply #26 - Oct 28th, 2013 at 12:17pm
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To be fair to Turbine, budget restraints have limited their supply of Magic 8 Balls so they can not be sure if any fix they have will work.
  
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Reply #27 - Oct 28th, 2013 at 12:49pm
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AnalFissure wrote on Oct 28th, 2013 at 7:41am:
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NEW: Equipping an item for the first time may give you a debuff which lowers your movement speed and attack speed. You may also encounter this debuff when you first log in to this Lamannia build. To remove the debuff, unequip the item, then equip it again. This bug is already corrected for the next Lamannia build.


More proof programers are lazy!  It's simple coding to put conditional statements together!
  
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Reply #28 - Oct 28th, 2013 at 1:03pm
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rest wrote on Oct 28th, 2013 at 10:27am:
Well they obviously know they can't actually fix the bug. Or if they do "fix" it, it will reappear. So this is their solution. Kind of funny, and if the big fix itself wasn't buggy, it's kind of clever. But Turbine obviously can't do clever.


Turdbine obviouly can't do shit without hurting themselves with "extreme prejudice".
  
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Reply #29 - Oct 28th, 2013 at 3:30pm
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RynD wrote on Oct 28th, 2013 at 12:49pm:
It's simple coding to put conditional statements together!

Feather's new item code is 'special' compared to the old item code that worked well enough for years.
  
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Reply #30 - Oct 28th, 2013 at 3:53pm
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Oct 28th, 2013 at 8:09am:
...min lvl26-28 equipment?


It doesn't seem limited to specific-ML gear.  The defining factor seems to simply be that it's post-U19 random-lootgen gear/weapons (not extensively tested).  I would assume that adding augments, binding, or any other modifications to the item would have a chance to mess that up, but haven't tested that either.

FoS - Making random lootgen look better and better all the time...
  
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Reply #31 - Oct 28th, 2013 at 4:04pm
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Feather is 'special'
  
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Reply #32 - Oct 28th, 2013 at 9:14pm
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CanIHazYourStuff wrote on Oct 28th, 2013 at 1:03pm:
Turdbine obviously can't do shit without hurting themselves with EXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXTREME PREJUDICE™.


FTFY.  Just imagine that’s how they say it while straining to unlodge something large from their bowels.
  
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Reply #33 - Oct 29th, 2013 at 12:14am
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QuantumFX wrote on Oct 28th, 2013 at 9:14pm:
FTFY.  Just imagine that’s how they say it while straining to unlodge something large from their bowels.


LOL!
  
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Reply #34 - Oct 29th, 2013 at 12:15am
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rest wrote on Oct 28th, 2013 at 10:27am:
Kind of funny, and if the big fix itself wasn't buggy, it's kind of clever. But Turbine obviously can't do clever.



And you know it will backfire horribly.
  
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Reply #35 - Oct 29th, 2013 at 12:30am
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Yobai wrote on Oct 29th, 2013 at 12:15am:
And you know it will backfire horribly.


And I can’t wait for that day.  The forum rage will be hilarious.
  
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Reply #36 - Oct 30th, 2013 at 3:47pm
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rest wrote on Oct 28th, 2013 at 10:27am:
Well they obviously know they can't actually fix the bug. Or if they do "fix" it, it will reappear. So this is their solution. Kind of funny, and if the big fix itself wasn't buggy, it's kind of clever. But Turbine obviously can't do clever.

Yeah this smacks of do-something-now until they get time to fix it. Shame they fucked it up initially but at least it didn't make it to the live servers. If they'd done it flawlessly I would've had a good giggle the first time I got hit with it.
  
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Reply #37 - Oct 30th, 2013 at 4:43pm
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kum-gulp wrote on Oct 30th, 2013 at 3:47pm:
Yeah this smacks of do-something-now until they get time to fix it

Sadly, they never take time to fix it.  The bubblegum and duct tape throughout the code is rampant and probably a good reason it is so prone to bugs and problems.

They didn't fix the dupe bug, they reverted it to a previously bugged state.
They didn't fix the Mabar tome thing, they just shut it down.
They didn't fix the equipment bug, they just created a debuff to stick on people & broke hirelings in the process.
  
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Reply #38 - Oct 30th, 2013 at 4:47pm
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Aeolwind wrote on Oct 30th, 2013 at 4:43pm:
Sadly, they never take time to fix it.  The bubblegum and duct tape throughout the code is rampant and probably a good reason it is so prone to bugs and problems.

They didn't fix the dupe bug, they reverted it to a previously bugged state.
They didn't fix the Mabar tome thing, they just shut it down.
They didn't fix the equipment bug, they just created a debuff to stick on people & broke hirelings in the process.

  
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Reply #39 - Oct 30th, 2013 at 4:52pm
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Silence may be golden.  But duct tape is silver.
  
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Reply #40 - Oct 30th, 2013 at 4:53pm
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Aeolwind wrote on Oct 30th, 2013 at 4:43pm:
Sadly, they never take time to fix it.  The bubblegum and duct tape throughout the code is rampant and probably a good reason it is so prone to bugs and problems.

They didn't fix the dupe bug, they reverted it to a previously bugged state.
They didn't fix the Mabar tome thing, they just shut it down.
They didn't fix the equipment bug, they just created a debuff to stick on people & broke hirelings in the process.

I'd usually agree (epic destinies, prestiges, and so on) about not bothering, but this benefits us - I expect there'll be a way to shake off the debuff - and harms store hire sales so I guess it'll get the attention of the paymasters.
  
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Reply #41 - Oct 30th, 2013 at 5:09pm
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The Burden debuff - it means even if you find another way in the future around the equippable level limitation you still get caught.

So after careful consideration I think that one is a good solution. 

Except that it will fuck PC's in all kinds of ways when it pops up incorrectly. 

I wonder what happens if you get neg levelled while wearing gear that is suddenly higher levelled than you are? 
I wonder if it affects neg-levelled mobs?
I wonder what happens when items recalculate their minimum levels?
It's clearly already affecting pets and hirelings when it shouldn't be.
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Reply #42 - Oct 30th, 2013 at 5:12pm
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higgildypiggildy wrote on Oct 30th, 2013 at 5:09pm:
The Burden debuff - it means even if you find another way in the future around the equippable level limitation you still get caught.

Someone needs to find a way to pass the burden debuff to others,  sort of like pm killing but way more fun.  I'd actually log back in just to do that.
  
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Reply #43 - Oct 30th, 2013 at 7:07pm
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Someone needs to find a way to pass the burden debuff to others,  sort of like pm killing but way more fun.  I'd actually log back in just to do that.


I'm sure it will pop up in the future whenever you cast Deadly Weapons or Lucky Cape on someone with a loot gen item.
  
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Re: Leave it to Turbine
Reply #44 - Oct 30th, 2013 at 7:46pm
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higgildypiggildy wrote on Oct 30th, 2013 at 5:09pm:
I wonder what happens if you get neg levelled while wearing gear that is suddenly higher levelled than you are?
I wonder if it affects neg-levelled mobs?
I wonder what happens when items recalculate their minimum levels?


You are thinking ahead about possible consequences!  This is not the Turbine way!  No soup for you!
  
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Reply #45 - Oct 30th, 2013 at 8:38pm
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Glenalth wrote on Oct 30th, 2013 at 7:07pm:
I'm sure it will pop up in the future whenever you cast Deadly Weapons or Lucky Cape on someone with a loot gen item.


yep.
  
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Reply #46 - Oct 30th, 2013 at 8:41pm
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higgildypiggildy wrote on Oct 30th, 2013 at 5:09pm:
I wonder what happens if you get neg levelled while wearing gear that is suddenly higher levelled than you are? 

I wonder what happens when items recalculate their minimum levels?




It will provide great forum drama.
  
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Reply #47 - Oct 30th, 2013 at 10:01pm
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I dunno... as i read thru this thread something kept saying " no... they're about to try to create cursed armor".
  
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Reply #48 - Oct 30th, 2013 at 11:29pm
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Aeolwind wrote on Oct 30th, 2013 at 4:43pm:
Sadly, they never take time to fix it.  The bubblegum and duct tape throughout the code is rampant and probably a good reason it is so prone to bugs and problems.

They didn't fix the dupe bug, they reverted it to a previously bugged state.
They didn't fix the Mabar tome thing, they just shut it down.
They didn't fix the equipment bug, they just created a debuff to stick on people & broke hirelings in the process.


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