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Half elf Fighter 8 Monk 6 Ranger 6
Nov 9th, 2013 at 3:45pm
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So as I approach my final life I am thinking a build to use, and this is one that comes to me as something I would like:

Lawful neutral half elf fighter 8 monk 6 ranger 6

str 18+5 tome+10 item+3 insightful+1 exceptional+2 enhancement+7 level ups+2 ship+2 completionist+2 rage+2 ram's might=54
dex 15+4 tome+8 item+2 insight+1 exceptional+2 ship+2 completionist=34-2 stance=32
con 15+4 tome+3 insightful+1 exceptional+10 item+2 completionist+2 rage+2 ship+1 enhancement=40+4 earth stance=44
int 12
wis 8
cha 8

level order:
1 Fighter
2-3 Monk
4-9 ranger
10-13 monk
14-20 fighter

Feats:
1-point blank shot
1f-weapon focus slashing
1dille-Rogue dilletante
2m-power attack
3m-Dodge
3-Completionist
6-Cleave
9-Improved critical: slashing
12-Greater two weapon fighting
13m-Zen archery
14f-Exotic weapon proficiency: khopesh
15-Master of forms
16f-Weapon specialization slashing
18-Great cleave
18f-Improved precise shot
20f-Greater weapon focus slashing
21-Improved critical: ranged or Empower healing
24-Overwhelming critical
26d-pTWF
27-Grandmaster of forms
28d-


Enhancements:

Half elf: 10
Core 4
Improved rogue dilletante I 2
Improved recovery 2
Improved rogue dilletante II 2

Kensei: 34 points
Core 1
Weapon group specialization heavy blades 2
Exotic weapon mastery 2
Extra action boost 6
Haste boost 3
WGS II heavy blades 2
Weapon meditation 2
WGS III heavy blades 2
Shattering strike 1
Critical accuracy 2
Strength 2
WGS IV heavy blades 2
Critical damage 2
Strength 2
Keen edge 1
One with the blade 1
Deadly strike 1

Shintao: 13
Core 1
Deft strikes 6
Iron skin 6

Ninja spy: 11
Core 3
Acrobatic 2
Sneak attack training I 2
Sneak attack training II 2
Fists of iron 2

Tempest: 9
Core 2
Improved reaction 3
Whirling blades I 2
Whirling blades II 2

Arcane Archer: 3
Core 1
Conjure arrows 2

What I get from enhancements:
+3d6 sneak attack
+6 damage/to hit with khopeshes
+20% off hand hits (i.e., 100% off hand hits)
+15 PRR
+2% dodge
15.5% healing amp
+3 reflex save
+2 strength
+1 constitution
+3 action boosts
+1 to confirm crits/dmg on crits (before multiplier)
+1 Crit range with khopeshes
Unlimited arrows


If you see any errors please let me know, and I know I won't be centred with khopeshes until 20....it was the only way to fit in all the feats (which I barely manage as is).

Imp crit ranged vs empower healing, is it necessary to have empower healing to get decent cacoons for end game stuffs or would it be better to get more damage out of a bow?

Also what is a good second ED feat for a TWF character?

Gearing I was thinking of:

Head: Black dragon helm (3 con or str)
Neck: Pendant of the stormreaver (Have this on my rogue, and it is amazing for a melee)
Trinket: planar focus of prowess (+3 str or +3 con)
Goggles: Deadly X goggles of resistance X
Body: Flawless black dragonscale robe
Wrists: Greater convalescent bracers of superior parrying optionally epic bracers of the claw
Cloak: greensteel? no idea
Belt: +10 con belt of false life 50/dodge 10%
Gloves: EE backstabber's gloves (deception and +13 sneak attack damage is nice) optionally epic gloves of the claw
Boots: Goatskin boots (EE) dex 8->slot +2 insightful dex and heavy fort
Ring 1: +9-10 strength ring of seeker X (already have 9 str of seeker X....)
Ring 2: no idea
Main hand: +6 Desert sand khopesh of the sun's fury (yes I have this, and it is a beast)->swap in Pinion
Off hand: Drow khopesh or better loot gen khopesh (maybe with a red slot for devotion?)

thanks for any help.
  

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Re: Half elf Fighter 8 Monk 6 Ranger 6
Reply #1 - Nov 9th, 2013 at 3:47pm
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I'd take empower heal over grandmaster of forms.

at 28 i normally pick up :

Forced escape, +2 tactics or toughness.

On your 8/6/6 I'd probably go for Toughness.
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Reply #2 - Nov 9th, 2013 at 3:50pm
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i guess, I was weighing +1 con and a bit of PRR vs more self healing, if I do drop grandmaster of forms I can drop 1 enh bonus to con as well which lets me shift around APs to get 2% more dodge or another sneak attack die......
  

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Re: Half elf Fighter 8 Monk 6 Ranger 6
Reply #3 - Nov 9th, 2013 at 4:01pm
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Then I don't know why you even seriously considered grandmaster.
  

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Reply #4 - Nov 9th, 2013 at 4:08pm
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defense is pretty nice lol, but ya i guess the benefits of dropping it would be pretty great.
  

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Reply #5 - Nov 9th, 2013 at 4:10pm
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and i guess toughness for 28 works lol.....

also primary ed=ld

twists=sense weakness, cacoon, dance of flowers.......wish i could take scream but not enough twist slots lol.
  

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Re: Half elf Fighter 8 Monk 6 Ranger 6
Reply #6 - Nov 9th, 2013 at 6:34pm
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Have you considered going Monk at 1st level for the additional skill points, and then taking Fighter at the 2nd level?  You should still be able to take Point Blank Shot and Dodge at level 1, Weapon Focus Slashing at level 2 with the Fighter Feat, and Power Attack as your second Monk Feat at level 3.
  
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Re: Half elf Fighter 8 Monk 6 Ranger 6
Reply #7 - Nov 9th, 2013 at 9:30pm
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No stun blow, no adrenaline or blindness, you sure want to be in LD most the time ?
Also I doubt any loot gen khop is better than drow, mainhand drow with tendon slice would serve you very well with deception from gloves.
  
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Re: Half elf Fighter 8 Monk 6 Ranger 6
Reply #8 - Nov 9th, 2013 at 9:48pm
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Ensis wrote on Nov 9th, 2013 at 6:34pm:
Have you considered going Monk at 1st level for the additional skill points, and then taking Fighter at the 2nd level?  You should still be able to take Point Blank Shot and Dodge at level 1, Weapon Focus Slashing at level 2 with the Fighter Feat, and Power Attack as your second Monk Feat at level 3.


that is a good point, i was mostly choosing fighter first to get martial weapon prof early.

and encair i was choosing ld cause im not too huge into the adrenaline micro management of fury, apthough overwhelming force is quite op.....what would you recommend as twists if i did that?
  

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instead of sense weakness that is.
  

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also i messed around in barrage and my +6 desert sand khopesh of suns fury kicked the drow khope's ass.
  

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Reply #11 - Nov 10th, 2013 at 12:13am
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Shouldn't you take ranger first for skill points? Or even monk... anything but fighter.
  
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Reply #12 - Nov 10th, 2013 at 1:03pm
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Let's try that.
25 str
10 deadly
2 rams
2 Tempest
2 weapon specialization
4 kensei
5 PA

50 dmg mod  10 seeker + 5 exce + 6 dread + 2 kensei = 23

Drow  is just the same but 3d8 and crits on 13
Still nope ( much worse on fire immune )Smiley Yes I am bored and on endless math crusade.
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Re: Half elf Fighter 8 Monk 6 Ranger 6
Reply #13 - Nov 10th, 2013 at 1:17pm
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I don't know man, LD is just not practical to use most the time, CC on demand ( especially with 100 % off hand you get charges super fast ) and Furyshot ( ! ).

It's okay solo ( ofc, every challenge or DA or hell my monkcher posts are in LD ) or in shitty nub group doing easy stuff. Maybe it will work for you, almost never does for me. 2 or 4 furies just tear through stuff, those 250 - 400k hp you just see the bar going down with multiple furyshots lol.
  
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Re: Half elf Fighter 8 Monk 6 Ranger 6
Reply #14 - Nov 10th, 2013 at 3:55pm
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Thanks for doing that for me, I'm sure I fucked it up lol......I suck at remembering all the +1s, also I agree on fury now that I have thought about it.

Also I'm thinking for twists improved power attack+dance of flowers+cacoon, that equates to +2 W dmg on all my khopeshes and on pinion Cheesy will be pretty sweet.

also can anyone inform me if I have missed something in this:

str in fury 58 (what I had above +3 primal scream>rage and +1 from ED)

5d8 base dice (avg. 5+40/2=22.5)
+6 enhancement mod
+5 power attack
+6 enhancements
+2 feats
+6 fury
+24 strength
+10 deadly
=81 main hand/69 off hand
+4d6+16 sneak attack (avg. of (4+16)+(24+16)/2=30)
=111 main hand/99 off hand

is that bad for damage for TWF? haven't played end game in a while so unsure about it, also please point out anything i missed lol......

crits on 13-18 would be about 276 damage (81+1x3+30 sneak attack) main hand/240 (69+1x3+30 sneak attack) off hand

On 19-20 would be about 522 (81+1x6+30 sneak attack) main hand/450 (69+1x6+30 sneak attack) off hand


HPs: 45 con (loss of two from the op +3 primal scream)
476 con (28 levelsx17 con mod)
+35 improved heroic durability
+80 epic levels
+35 false life
+45 greensteel
+30 toughness feat
+80 fighter levels
+60 ranger levels
+48 monk levels
+10 draconic vitality
+100 fury
+10 barb PL
=1009

oh forgot +2 damage from ram's might, don't remind me -_-
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Re: Half elf Fighter 8 Monk 6 Ranger 6
Reply #15 - Nov 10th, 2013 at 4:34pm
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also just realized the ring i had was 10 str of seeker 9 not str 9 of seeker 10
  

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