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Nub Korthos Resident Offline Posts: 95 Joined: Feb 25^th, 2012	WF Evoker FvS viability Nov 17^th, 2013 at 11:25pm	Print Post
	Hi all, long time lurker here & just looking for advice, abuse and typical Vault love. Just about to Tr to my semi-final life (18/2 FvS/Monk) and looking forward to actually playing some of the expansion & adventure packs I bought a while back but never did. Not played for a while... 6-7 months at least so dont really know how things are working these days (although with the servers off looks like business as usual). Anyway: Have completionist, 3x wiz, 3x sorc, 2x fvs, 2x fighter & looking to run an evoker hybrid FvS. 16 Str 16 Con 16 Wis + level ups 10 Cha M1 Stunning Blow M2 Power Attack Maximize Empower Heighten Quicken PL:Wizard Completionist ? Have some pretty generic 1-20 gear that i've used across most lives, including Min2 (+1/+2 Wis) Greatsword. Have sod all lv20+ items as I am TR addicted. Viable or waste of time? Gear to look for? Feat selection changes? Any changes to game recently worth noting? (im still working head around enhancement pass) Cheers


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: WF Evoker FvS viability Reply #1 - Nov 17^th, 2013 at 11:44pm	Print Post
	Evoking is fine in heroic, but you're not going to hit enough DC for EE. DC casting is deadish - I guess necro PM is ok - but about the only thing that can hit EE instakill DCs is monks. I dunno why you're taking stunning blow etc, you're going to land that approx never. Your melee dps is also going to be garbage. That would've maybe been an OK build circa U11, but you really need to join us in 2013. If you want a healer that can contribute to EE, look into something with manyshot or something with shiradi magic missiles. Or maybe something with longsword faith weapons.
	« Last Edit: Nov 17^th, 2013 at 11:50pm by cdr »

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Nub Korthos Resident Offline Posts: 95 Joined: Feb 25^th, 2012	Re: WF Evoker FvS viability Reply #2 - Nov 18^th, 2013 at 12:02am	Print Post
	Like a Human/Helf/Horc 17cleric/2Ranger/1monk? Something like: Manyshot PBS Zen Archery Empower Maximize Empower Healing Completionist ICrit:Ranged ?
	« Last Edit: Nov 18^th, 2013 at 12:06am by Nub »

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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: WF Evoker FvS viability Reply #3 - Nov 18^th, 2013 at 12:34am	Print Post
	I hate healing other people, so I wouldn't build a healer and can't give specific advice. Healer builds I know of: Zerjmoar 12/6/2 fvs (not fully developed but seems decent) Gingerspyce 20 druid (not great dps but good healing+CC) Poke around in the build forum some, there's likely some more decent posts.


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4363 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: WF Evoker FvS viability Reply #4 - Nov 18^th, 2013 at 1:02am	Print Post
	the best divine evokers atm is a 17druid/2monk/1wizard. No other divine evoking build is viable in EE. I am biased, but it's true.
	« Last Edit: Nov 18^th, 2013 at 1:04am by Munkenmo »
	So you want to know about an exploit? PM Epoch For Details. Or, in case you don't already know, OnePercenter controls the Exploits Board. Lastly, if you're truly desperate, Vendui Tells Everyone
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Nub Korthos Resident Offline Posts: 95 Joined: Feb 25^th, 2012	Re: WF Evoker FvS viability Reply #5 - Nov 18^th, 2013 at 1:10am	Print Post
	Cool, will poke around a bit more. Eventually plan to go through all the other lives anyway so this FvS may just be another pass through


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: WF Evoker FvS viability Reply #6 - Nov 18^th, 2013 at 10:39am	Print Post
	I've run EE with Gingerspyce a few times. Despite being a casual guy from HL, the build did very well. 2mnk/1wiz may very well be more optimal though. Certainly Earthquake is the only viable EE evocation spell ATM since it doesn't attack a traditional save. If you want to heal and provide CC/utility, druid is pretty much the only way to go. You can heal+dps fine with fvs/clr though thanks to manyshot and/or warpriest.
	« Last Edit: Nov 18^th, 2013 at 10:48am by cdr »

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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: WF Evoker FvS viability Reply #7 - Nov 18^th, 2013 at 1:01pm	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on Nov 18^th, 2013 at 1:02am: the best divine evokers atm is a 17druid/2monk/1wizard. No other divine evoking build is viable in EE. I am biased, but it's true. Biased because you stole this build from me, and all the glory along with it


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LordPiglet Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 660 Location: H-Town Joined: Jan 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: WF Evoker FvS viability Reply #8 - Nov 18^th, 2013 at 1:25pm	Print Post
	rest wrote on Nov 18^th, 2013 at 1:01pm: Biased because you stole this build from me, and all the glory along with it� Did he post it as Thievenmo?


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4363 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: WF Evoker FvS viability Reply #9 - Nov 18^th, 2013 at 3:14pm	Print Post
	Whilst I was busy acquiring the pastlives to make the Firstenmo work, Rest made one and tried to take all the glory.

	So you want to know about an exploit? PM Epoch For Details. Or, in case you don't already know, OnePercenter controls the Exploits Board. Lastly, if you're truly desperate, Vendui Tells Everyone
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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: WF Evoker FvS viability Reply #10 - Nov 18^th, 2013 at 3:17pm	Print Post
	Mine seems to work just fine without all those past lives


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LordPiglet Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 660 Location: H-Town Joined: Jan 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: WF Evoker FvS viability Reply #11 - Nov 18^th, 2013 at 6:13pm	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on Nov 18^th, 2013 at 3:14pm: Whilst I was busy acquiring the pastlives to make the Firstenmo work, Rest made one and tried to take all the glory. For some reason I read that as Fistenmo


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AtomicMew Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2073 Joined: Jan 12^th, 2011	Re: WF Evoker FvS viability Reply #12 - Nov 19^th, 2013 at 4:15am	Print Post
	What exactly does 1 wizard get you? I'm guessing mostly magic missile + SLA. From reading some things, SLA is based off of character level, whereas you'd need some pretty heavy spell augmentation gear for the spell. +2 weapon, +3 abishai = CL 6 (3 missiles). Care to elaborate on the wizard splash?


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Starkjade Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Rogue Scholar Posts: 7082 Location: Canadia Joined: Aug 27^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: WF Evoker FvS viability Reply #13 - Nov 19^th, 2013 at 4:27am	Print Post
	One wizard gets you: Bonus feat, like a fighter splash on a melee. Invis SLA > MM SLA. First tier wizard enhancements include +hp (stacking from two trees), +sp, +spell crit, wand & scroll mastery, and extra spell power and spell points per point spent. Jump and Expeditious Retreat as spells.

	Two sips from the cup of human kindness and I'm shitfaced
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tachyon Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 369 Joined: Jun 28^th, 2013	Re: WF Evoker FvS viability Reply #14 - Nov 19^th, 2013 at 9:10am	Print Post
	IDK, but depending on how tight the enhancements are, I find the 1 fighter splash to be much more interesting.


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