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AtomicMew
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I'm looking for something to do with my other completionist. For the past several months he's been sitting at cap as a chest unlock bot for my main toon, and I want to do something better to do with him. I'm thinking 12 sorc/6 monk/2 paladin bladeforged with dual shortswords and wraps as backup, but I really don't know much about melee builds. I'm okay if it turns out to be slightly flavorful, as long as it's fun.
Heroic feats (10):
1. TWF
2. ITWF
3. GTWF
4. IC: Piercing
5. Power attack
6. Cleave
7. Great Cleave
8: Completionist
9: Master of forms
10: Quicken
Epic feats:
21: Overwhelming critical
24: Improved martial arts
26: Perfect TWF
27: Epic reflexes
28: Holy strike?
Enhancements:
Air savant: wind dance (32 AP)
EK: Improved shield/spellsword/martial training (11 AP)
Shintao: deft strikes (7 AP)
Ninja spy: shadow veil/sting of the ninja (13)
Bladeforged: Communion of scribing/Communion of warding/weapon attachment/power of the forge (17 AP)
It occurs to me that spending 32 AP for wind dance is really weak sauce, but I want wings. I could go 12 monk, but then I lose a bunch of arcane goodies.
Also, I don't have enough feats for manyshot, unless I give up overwhelming critical which may not be better. Alternatively, I could just swap to a caster set and dump SP when I need to pretend like I'm doing ranged DPS.
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Blah, just remembered I wanted to fit in divine might too. Guess I'll have to drop wind dance and do something like 12 monk/6 wizard/2 paladin. But at this point, I'm struggling to find a reason compared to something like 12 monk/6 fighter/2 paladin.
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For me, the main reason to make an EK is fun. I'm not building it for the DPS, but for the oddness. I'm currently leveling a 12Sorc/6FVS/2Pal, but I guess also 12FVS/6Sorc/2Monk could work.
Why shortswords?
Going THF instead of TWF would ease things on the feat front and have some synergy with Lord of the Blades faith.
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aDifferentHandle wrote
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Why shortswords?
Going THF instead of TWF would ease things on the feat front and have some synergy with Lord of the Blades faith.
He wouldn't be centered w/ great swords...that said that's just an argument to stay with 2 monk for the feats/evasion and ignore the feats for the higher stances if he decided to go that way or to dump monk entirely like you did.
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I've been considering rolling up a PDK Eldritch Knight. I figure the Charisma to hit and damage would work well with it, something like 12 Sorc/6 Fighter/2 Pally (or monk?).
Cha and Con, THFing. I figure there must be an obvious flaw with the idea, though. Care to point it out?
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hgm-chi wrote
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I've been considering rolling up a PDK Eldritch Knight. I figure the Charisma to hit and damage would work well with it, something like 12 Sorc/6 Fighter/2 Pally (or monk?).
Cha and Con, THFing. I figure there must be an obvious flaw with the idea, though. Care to point it out?
I think the biggest flaw is that you already have 50 characters
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Darkrok wrote
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He wouldn't be centered w/ great swords...that said that's just an argument to stay with 2 monk for the feats/evasion and ignore the feats for the higher stances if he decided to go that way or to dump monk entirely like you did.
He'd need to pick up a couple of fighter levels for that, yeah?
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Osharan Tregarth wrote
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He'd need to pick up a couple of fighter levels for that, yeah?
8, to be precise.
8Fgt/6Monk/6Sorc is an option, but I don't find the lack of DM very attractive. I'd be just another centered eSoS guy, and you couldn't even take PermaTenser's. It's doable, EK offers a decent amount of double strike, PRR and some elemental damage. But you couldn't run haste and displacement.
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aDifferentHandle wrote
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8, to be precise.
8Fgt/6Monk/6Sorc is an option, but I don't find the lack of DM very attractive. I'd be just another centered eSoS guy, and you couldn't even take PermaTenser's. It's doable, EK offers a decent amount of double strike, PRR and some elemental damage. But you couldn't run haste and displacement.
Ah, that makes sense then. I hadn't really looked at what level splits are required for "centered with your favored weapon", but eight looks a bit much.
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rest wrote
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I think the biggest flaw is that you already have 50 characters
Fair point.
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I'm building one as I go, on a third life character, because I'm an idiot.
Currently at 2 Ftr 2 wiz dwarf. Planning on going S&B vampire, just for the hell of it, trying to see exactly how much doublestrike I can get.
Anyone know if the Force Burst Cleave from the first EK core counts as a spell for Shiradi purposes? It's a pretty big AOE...
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Starkjade wrote
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Anyone know if the Force Burst Cleave from the first EK core counts as a spell for Shiradi purposes? It's a pretty big AOE...
I can check for you after I cap my current project. It's a 17dru/2mnk/1wiz caster project but I swear that leveling up you can get a TON of mileage out of that Eldritch cleave. Obviously not going to be great on a pure caster at cap but in the low levels it really aids the zerg (especially pre-ice storm).
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Starkjade wrote
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Anyone know if the Force Burst Cleave from the first EK core counts as a spell for Shiradi purposes? It's a pretty big AOE...
On my Shiradi caster, I took some EK enhancements and did beat down the dummy just with Eldritch Strikes. There was no extra sonic damage, other elemental damage or random procs.
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I think I've settled on 12 monk/6 wizard/2 paladin bladeforged. Since I can't get 8 fighter for centered THF if I want wings, I'm not losing too much by not splashing fighter except for haste boost, and I need some caster levels anyway for a decent mana pool for reconstruct.
I think there's barely enough feats to fit in manyshot too with this split.
Heroic feats:
1. TWF
2. ITWF
3. GTWF
4. IC: Piercing
5. Power attack
6. Cleave
7. Great Cleave
8: Completionist
9: Extend
10: Quicken
11: Point blank shot
12: rapid shot
Epic feats:
21: Overwhelming critical
24: Manyshot
26: Perfect TWF
27: Improved martial arts
28: Holy strike?
Dropping wind dance, enhancements shouldn't be a problem. Looks good?
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AtomicMew wrote
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I need some caster levels anyway for a decent mana pool for reconstruct.
I get by just fine in EE's on a toon with only 2 wiz levels.
I honestly look at builds like this though and just wonder why you wouldn't make a druid.
Do you really have to have shadowfade on a toon that has reconstruct and displace? 12sorc/6ranger/2pally could work well
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AtomicMew wrote
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I think I've settled on 12 monk/6 wizard/2 paladin bladeforged. Since I can't get 8 fighter for centered THF if I want wings, I'm not losing too much by not splashing fighter except for haste boost, and I need some caster levels anyway for a decent mana pool for reconstruct.
I think there's barely enough feats to fit in manyshot too with this split.
Heroic feats:
1. TWF
2. ITWF
3. GTWF
4. IC: Piercing
5. Power attack
6. Cleave
7. Great Cleave
8: Completionist
9: Extend
10: Quicken
11: Point blank shot
12: rapid shot
Epic feats:
21: Overwhelming critical
24: Manyshot
26: Perfect TWF
27: Improved martial arts
28: Holy strike?
Dropping wind dance, enhancements shouldn't be a problem. Looks good?
If I may show my ignorance. Where are you getting 12 heroic feats from? You get the normal 7. You get 2 from wizard 6, I trust thats Quicken and Extend. You get 3 from monk 12, but only two (TWF and PA) of the feats you listed show up on the wiki for Monk bonus feats.
If you dropped Bladeforged to go RNG2 instead of PAL2 you'd get TWF and Rapid Shot even freeing up a feat slot at the cost of Divine Might and Divine Grace. Eh.
But what do I know. I'm still looking for one more supreme shard before I TR into my own 14SORC/3PAL/3MNK EK.
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