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Re: Force Missle Mage
Reply #25 - Nov 25th, 2013 at 12:34am
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Twilight isn't that bad. It's not as good for Shiradi as great lootgen, but it's plenty good enough, and +2 arcane augmentation is nice for CM (if you conservatively assume ~500 spellpower on force spells 1 extra missle from CM is considerably better than the spellpower wedge anyway). So, for multi-target stuffs, Twilight is quite useful. It wasn't worth the hassle before, since Web is a pain, but now that it's free let's not pretend that it's crap- it's a fine substitute, and free. It just wasn't worth grinding for earlier.


All of this presumes you have another source of kinetic lore though. Sage's cuffs are nice, but I kind of like the 3-sp maximize I get from a Kinetic Lore/Efficient Maximize trinket.


And it's all a moot point anyway with Shiradi. I remember ee streaking Sands flags leveling my Shiradi with the Brine Shaman's Staff (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Brine_Shaman%27s_Staff) because I had accidentally unequipped my ML28 thaum staff, and couldn't be bothered to go to a bank. I hardly noticed.
  
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Reply #26 - Nov 25th, 2013 at 2:05am
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How do you figure 3 sp maximize now?
  
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Reply #27 - Nov 25th, 2013 at 3:04am
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AtomicMew wrote on Nov 25th, 2013 at 2:05am:
How do you figure 3 sp maximize now?


FVS and Wiz efficient meta has stacked since the advent of the u19 enh system. But now that it's being mentioned in the vault instead of the main forums, maybe they'll pay attention and fix it.
  
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Re: Force Missle Mage
Reply #28 - Nov 27th, 2013 at 10:57am
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I'm not that enthusiastic about giving up Sunsoul/Parrying IV for Kinetic Lore 20% bracers. Not if I can get a random loot quarterstaff with high Impulse and Resonance, Kinetic Lore in the high teens and whatever extra effect they now have like Spellsight +15 or Potency 80-something. The Potency 80 and Arcane Lore 9% from Blue Dragonscale will have to do for DoT's and other spells, unless I can be bothered swapping a Glaciation, Magnetism staff in for that, but I doubt I'll bother once the main damage spellpower/lore has been taken care of.
  
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Re: Force Missle Mage
Reply #29 - Nov 27th, 2013 at 11:55am
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Nov 24th, 2013 at 11:48pm:
So you don't use Sage cuffs I presume?
You'd rather have it with the random lootgen?

Math on 24 more spell power:
Are you simply counting the 144 impulse (random) vs 120 impulse (twilight)?
There is also the +30 vs. 24 implement bonus of +10 stick vs. +8 twilight,
To be fair to Twilight, its usually (and is best) used with Planar set for another +15 psionic spell power.

Total on "maxx" random gen combo: 30implement+144impulse= 174

Total on tier4 Twilight set combo: 24 implement+120impusle+15psionic= 159

Difference between both: 15 spell power

Assuming that kinetic lore is already covered and one's not afraid to be redundant by slotting 138 impulse ruby in the Twilight, it actually comes out on top by 3 spell power, additionally that's where arcane augmentation comes in handy  Roll Eyes


I consider it to be a great constitute while one's on the hunt for the best c-c-combo stick.



PS.: Best random gen I found so far: +9 thaumaturgy 27 implement, 144 glaciation, 144 resonance, 19 spellcraft, Red Slot: 138 impulse ruby. Loving it a LOT


Good info thank you.
  
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