Grumlee wrote on Nov 20^th, 2013 at 4:22pm:


The problem being it has always been just a couple more ingredients every update.  Be more epic WTF does that even mean?  Feedback here has more potential to actually make it somewhere useful, rather than falling on deaf ears on the main forums.  Also, WTF is it with all the new tards using the phrase "mother" boards/forums?

We already have our resident Turbine fanboy, pretty sure there is a limit of one, if you want the title I think you two will have to fight to the death.

Asheras wrote on Nov 20^th, 2013 at 3:49pm:


Level 21-27 on an essentially EE streak (LOD chain, MOTU, druid's curse, epic GH)  = 1500 comms.  And this is without an epic XP tome.  It's just really, really bad, much worse than some forum paladins are estimating.

AtomicMew wrote on Nov 20^th, 2013 at 5:15pm:


I don't know that I agree with your math.

You can get 6.6 mill from 4+14+4+10=32 quests?  Thats 200k per quest, average.  I don't get that much and I'm running with 15% ViP, 5% boat shrine, 5% augment, 30% pot constantlly. 

Regardless, even if it is double that number of quests and that number of comms,  you are only 60% of the way to a heart after capping.  Either the drop rate needs to be increased or the turn in amount should be lowered.

It was clear that Turbine is not going to change the coms to BtC because they already have some other stuff planned with them where they think they need BtC ingredients.

So this is the best solution for everyone Turbine could come up with. Yeah lowering values would have been better for most players but Turbine already said that they are not going to adjust the numbers until some weeks passed and they have some player data.
I lilke it because I have many toons and most of the time switch through them regularly, so atm several toons have around 100-200 comms. At this rate I won't be able to epic TR in the near future and I would get several hearts at the same time.
So this solves at least the problem for most players to work towards the epic heart with several toons and not just one farming toon.

The problem with comms per quest... there are several possible approaches to calculate average drop rates. If you say you always play the highest level quests on hard or even elite the average will be very high. If you take all quests from 20-28 and get the average over all these quests the numbers are very low because most of the quests are below lvl 24 and don't drop many comms.
I don't see myself doing elite streak while leveling from 20-28 and since most of the quests are below 24 I see myself getting around 20 comms per quest... so atm that very much discourages me to really farm for them.
I will probably take more chances to get a free EE completion when someone solos a quest an reserves some item drops. Usually stopped to join these groups because lately it often took very long until everyone was inside and ready to loot and I felt like wasting my time for random loot.

Chris wrote on Nov 20^th, 2013 at 6:33pm:

Starkjade wrote on Nov 20^th, 2013 at 4:49pm:


Nah... no reason to hack into their programinng they break their stuff enough.

Also their issues have been going on for more than a month.. its almost insulting the  website to compate them to screwbine's abilities.

rest wrote on Nov 20^th, 2013 at 4:58pm:


In Mother forums Cordovan posts YOU!

I will just ignore that there is something like epic TR. That will be my solution.

No like Spellpower ( through spellcraft skill ) on non INT based characters.

The tough choice is :
- you gimp your toon by investing build points in INT to get the spellcraft skill and the spellpower that comes with it,
- you don't gimp your toon, but in that case your spellpower is going to be sub-par compared to what an INT Based toon can have. ( at similar item and enhancements )

He specifically said in a L-Space Dev Chat that it was a Tough Choice and that he LOVED Tough Choice.

Asheras wrote on Nov 20^th, 2013 at 5:36pm:


21-27 = 4,950,000 XP, not 6.6 million.

Flav wrote on Nov 21^st, 2013 at 3:18am:


They love sinking this game as fast as they can so WB shuts it down and they can move on to some better coded mmo.

ILoveExploits wrote on Nov 21^st, 2013 at 10:04am:


From the charts, EE is roughly double the comms of EH.  At level 27,28 it's a bit less than double, but close enough.

The question would be, which is faster for you?  Two EH runs or one EE run?