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Re: The New Pando
Reply #50 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 11:38am
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a Kitteh wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 11:25am:
that's why i asked if DDO-ML will bypass it.  it completely bypasses the splash screen of the launcher... actually it bypasses the launcher TOTALLY... and puts you right at the loading screen just before the character select.


Ill let you know ina bit Kitteh, launcher is acting up on me.. taking longer than normal to update :c

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Teehee Kitteh... Started up DDO-Ml, and.. my AV sayed "OH HELL NUH!" and removed it... I told my AV to shove a bigger cork in its face... and made exceptions to the file XD
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Re: The New Pando
Reply #51 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 11:40am
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Flav wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 11:36am:
Then it should bypass it... Now does it have a way to keep the game up to date ?
( download the updates )

If not, and if it's not possible with PyLOTRO too we will still have to activate it from time to time when we want to update the game.



It carries an Update feature (ddo-ml) but i havnt tested it personally.. i typically just start up the real client for update purposes, close down after its done, then start up py/ml XD
  
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Re: The New Pando
Reply #52 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 11:48am
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Vendui wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 11:40am:
It carries an Update feature (ddo-ml) but i havnt tested it personally.. i typically just start up the real client for update purposes, close down after its done, then start up py/ml XD



Good, can you point to a place where I can download it ?

I'll do some experiment...

And I'll write up some how to Bypass Akamai in the main forums once I have experimented.
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Re: The New Pando
Reply #53 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 11:51am
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the thread says the patch feature is untested... i'm testing it right now (lol) and so far it *seems* to be working. i'll report back when it's done if it worked correctly or not


i'll also be posting it prominently as a way to bypass Akami and insisting that my husband start using it.

i'm irritated.
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Reply #54 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 11:55am
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Reply #55 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 11:56am
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Flav wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 11:48am:
And I'll write up some how to Bypass Akamai in the main forums once I have experimented.


Much appreciated  Smiley
  
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Re: The New Pando
Reply #56 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 12:01pm
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Flav wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 11:48am:
Good, can you point to a place where I can download it ?

I'll do some experiment...

And I'll write up some how to Bypass Akamai in the main forums once I have experimented.


You mean to say... your unable to click the link already provided by Kitteh not more than 4 posts up? Just wondering... ^-^
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well now its more than 4... its on page 2... XD
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Reply #57 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 12:34pm
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Flav wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 3:27pm:
Since we get U 21 we get the Akamai Crapware... That is as far as I know, since nobody has confirmed that it was removed from the Live distribution.


Its confirmed on the Release notes.. Cheesy

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Players updating their DDO clients will now utilize the Akamai Netsession service with peer-to-peer technology disabled. Players will need to accept the Akamai EULA in order to update their clients.
  
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Reply #58 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 1:03pm
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Vendui wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 12:34pm:
Its confirmed on the Release notes.. Cheesy




You're late... that was for page 2...
  

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Reply #59 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 1:04pm
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Flav wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 1:03pm:
You're late... that was for page 2...



I know... i suck.. :c

Also, DDO-ML updates the game just fine, as im currently playing.. /win
  
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Reply #60 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 1:14pm
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I can't check because I'm at work, but does pyLOTRO also allow you to patch the game without using the launcher?
  
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Reply #61 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 1:22pm
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rest wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 1:14pm:
I can't check because I'm at work, but does pyLOTRO also allow you to patch the game without using the launcher?


I dont belive Pylotro has that ability, i dont use it so im not sure.. just from here-say
  
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Reply #62 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 1:22pm
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Vendui wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 1:04pm:
I know... i suck.. :c

Also, DDO-ML updates the game just fine, as im currently playing.. /win


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Reply #63 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 1:25pm
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Vendui wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 1:22pm:
I dont belive Pylotro has that ability, i dont use it so im not sure.. just from here-say



Well I can give DDO-ML a spin to update I guess, if pyLOTRO doesn't work
  
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Reply #64 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 1:46pm
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a Kitteh wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 11:55am:



Thanks.

As a side note, I tested PyLOTRO update and it seems to works fine... I could enter the game and move around on the guild ship.

  

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Reply #65 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 2:03pm
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So here's my conundrum: I have Pylotro it will patch but if I don't use the preloader due to DDO being on a old HD I won't be able to load in.

I'll get the same ole same ole problem with it hanging or taking forever on the 1st time logging in.

After the 1st time I can use Pylotro over & over again no problem to log in super quick.

Input/ideas/assistance? Thanks in advance!

PC is a 6 core AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 3.2 Ghz.

12GB DDR3 RAM. Windows 7 64 Ultimate. ATI Radeon HD 5770.

Broadband cable connection 25 down 2 up. 1 desktop pc with 1 cable modem no router.
  
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Reply #66 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 2:13pm
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Honestly ?

get a SSD.

You can try DDO-ML since now we know both works fine and update the game client.

I'll post a how to for both tomorrow here and in the official forum.
( sorry I don't have time right now... Dinner to cook, eat and the I have my static group for the evening )
  

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Reply #67 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 2:17pm
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Flav wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 2:13pm:
Honestly ?

get a SSD.

You can try DDO-ML since now we know both works fine and update the game client.

I'll post a how to for both tomorrow here and in the official forum.
( sorry I don't have time right now... Dinner to cook, eat and the I have my static group for the evening )


I would if I could afford one, Flav. 0 room in the budget right now.

I'm in Ontario, Canada it needs to be a 180GB Intel for under $80 including shipping & taxes & preferably extended warranty.

Yeah, no rush Flav I have the last 2 weeks of college left so no DDO until then for the most part.

I'll live, shrugs. We both tried in the Lama thread but the new producer just totally ignored us so.

I hope there's another wayfinder protest on the bridge, maybe that will get the point across...one can only hope...
  
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Reply #68 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 2:28pm
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If anybody has the link for the source code for the preloader...

Fixing it to fork DDO-ML or PyLOTRO instead of Turbinelauncher shouldn't be hard.

  

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Reply #69 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 2:46pm
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Threads are being fed to the Cube left and right on the topic...

I had at least a post removed and I had whole answers disappear while I was replying to them... and gotten invalid whatever messages when I tried to post.

  

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Reply #70 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 2:47pm
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DDO-ML worked like a charm. Updated without problem.

The automatic "log that character" thing is also nice, since I only have one.

Guess I'll be using that until they, hopefully (probably not), get rid of Akamai  Undecided
  
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Reply #71 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 2:50pm
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there is heavy censoring in place regarding the discussion of this bs on the forum. only registered here to post the post i tried to post several times now on forum (included a quote from a dev) and wich gets removed within a minute. Even any posts (me or other folks) indicating that 'moderation on the topic is occuring, will be removed within a minute.

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posts are pulled back, so reposting my reply with the quote:

[QUOTE=Mirthgar;5276558]I think there's some overlapping misinformation out there, I'll try to clarify:

The launchers patching is what is using the Akamai code, it is download only however.  The reason the EULA as it is, is being used is because even though a customized version of the application, it still has to use the full EULA from Akamai. 

The full Netsession app is used by a significant number of other applications and downloads including games so chances are it was resident on a given system prior to this update but if you are just seeing it now, yes the game does install a custom tailored version and one that does not use a significant portion of the features listed in the EULA including not using peer to peer style uploading.

It is only utilized for patch updating for the new launcher in which it has been integrated.  And just in case it was missed here's Cordovan's post reply:

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5276074#post5276074

It is not sending any personally identifiable info to us or Akamai, (it should be noted that Akamai handles a significant portion of internet traffic in general). [/quote]


to be very very blatant:

i give a friggin crap about what turbine says about the matter nor what anyone says about intentions. What matters is the EULA that HAS TO BE ACCEPTED to be even able to play, even if the game is uptodate.
man, im not really happy about europe or my homeland, germany, but at least until now we have a culture of caring at least a friggin tidbit about privacy and such.

and again, even if it does NOT do any p2p, its still datamining, and friggin dont come with: if you are  not a criminal, you dont have to hide anything ...
  
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Reply #72 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 2:53pm
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Flav wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 2:28pm:
If anybody has the link for the source code for the preloader...

Fixing it to fork DDO-ML or PyLOTRO instead of Turbinelauncher shouldn't be hard.



Yeah I hope someone can do this.
  
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Reply #73 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 2:54pm
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Seth, yep, I was trying to find down that post to answer it too since it's full of bullshit.
I also had a few posts cubed in that thread and in others... Damage Control is out in full swing.

- The game doesn't need Netsession as proved by both PyLOTRO and DDO-ML working (and updating the game ) fine.

- The Launcher ( since that the only software that required it ) is not that huge a download ( compared to the rest of what gets updated in a patch ) it doesn't need a bandwidth management software.

Anybody care to post to all the MMO related website about the latest failure from Turbine ?

Last time with the Occupy Stormreach it somewhat worked.
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Reply #74 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 3:04pm
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Flav wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 2:54pm:
- The game doesn't need Netsession as proved by both PyLOTRO and DDO-ML working (and updating the game ) fine.


The thing there is, if they are trying to move updates to the Akamai servers, I can see them having the existing Turbine update servers still up alongside the new Akamai servers, in parallel.  Once they have sufficient confirmation Akamai is working, they turn off the existing Turbine-hosted update servers.  So if PyLOTRO and DDO-ML are hard-coded or otherwise somehow configured for the Turbine-hosted update servers, I could see them breaking.

I guess we'll see.
  
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