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froggy Stormreaver Piker Offline LUDICROUS SPEED GO!!!!!!! Posts: 539 Location: Georgia Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: AC / Intim / PRR / ETC / OMG Reply #50 - Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 2:23pm	Print Post
	All of the bonuses that give +20% AC from a source (shield or armour) stack btw, so its very pausible to get rediculously high AC. Friend just showed me his 289 AC tank :3 never gets hit. Ever. Except on 20s

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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3489 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: AC / Intim / PRR / ETC / OMG Reply #51 - Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 11:23pm	Print Post
	froggy wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 2:23pm: Friend just showed me his 289 AC tank :3 never gets hit. Ever. Except on 20s He may never get hit, but he may never hit back either...


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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: AC / Intim / PRR / ETC / OMG Reply #52 - Apr 4^th, 2014 at 12:16am	Print Post
	froggy wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 2:23pm: Friend just showed me his 289 AC tank :3 never gets hit. Ever. Except on 20s Tongue Could you post a screenshot ? That's crazy. I remember having 170 - 180 after epic GH or so.


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Limpgimp Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 278 Joined: Jul 18^th, 2012	Re: AC / Intim / PRR / ETC / OMG Reply #53 - Apr 4^th, 2014 at 4:52am	Print Post
	froggy wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 2:23pm: All of the bonuses that give +20% AC from a source (shield or armour) stack btw, so its very pausible to get rediculously high AC. Friend just showed me his 289 AC tank :3� never gets hit.� Ever.� Except on 20s I call bullshit on "never gets hit.� Ever.� Except on 20s" Monster�s chance to hit: (Monster�s Attack Bonus + 10.5) / (Target�s Armor Class * 2) pre-motu epic trash had ~100 to hit iirc, EE mobs in old epics got their CR raised compared to legacy ones, EE trash in newer content has even bigger CR. with 150 to hit (which I doubt is the maximum mobs could have): 27.76% to get hit even with lowly 70 to hit (Horoth is somewhere there) he gets hit 14% of time Wasn't counting other sources of mitigation, realistically he will get hit less. That AC may provide some decent mitigation (no idea what the mobs to hit is in U19+ content), but certainly not 95%.


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froggy Stormreaver Piker Offline LUDICROUS SPEED GO!!!!!!! Posts: 539 Location: Georgia Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: AC / Intim / PRR / ETC / OMG Reply #54 - Apr 4^th, 2014 at 11:30am	Print Post
	Limpgimp wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 4:52am: I call bullshit on "never gets hit.� Ever.� Except on 20s" Monster�s chance to hit: (Monster�s Attack Bonus + 10.5) / (Target�s Armor Class * 2) pre-motu epic trash had ~100 to hit iirc, EE mobs in old epics got their CR raised compared to legacy ones, EE trash in newer content has even bigger CR. with 150 to hit (which I doubt is the maximum mobs could have): 27.76% to get hit even with lowly 70 to hit (Horoth is somewhere there) he gets hit 14% of time Wasn't counting other sources of mitigation, realistically he will get hit less. That AC may provide some decent mitigation (no idea what the mobs to hit is in U19+ content), but certainly not 95%. mhm thats a cool formula, never seen it before. But if thats the case he still nearly never gets hit with 289 AC

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�ed Dragon Raider Offline WTB Souls, PST Posts: 227 Joined: May 8^th, 2012	Re: AC / Intim / PRR / ETC / OMG Reply #55 - Apr 7^th, 2014 at 6:48am	Print Post
	100 AC and PRR is very noticeable. Also very easy to get. Really isn't useless as people let on. Has to be tried to be believed. In LD, sitting at 160ish ac / 200prr i get hit, but for very small amounts. Can easily wade into packs of EE mobs.
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froggy Stormreaver Piker Offline LUDICROUS SPEED GO!!!!!!! Posts: 539 Location: Georgia Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: AC / Intim / PRR / ETC / OMG Reply #56 - Apr 7^th, 2014 at 3:22pm	Print Post
	�ed wrote on Apr 7^th, 2014 at 6:48am: 100 AC and PRR is very noticeable. Also very easy to get. Really isn't useless as people let on. Has to be tried to be believed. In LD, sitting at 160ish ac / 200prr i get hit, but for very small amounts. Can easily wade into packs of EE mobs. 100 AC helps but only when your facing mobs that dont pack much of a punch imo, so I guess its OKish :3

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froggy Stormreaver Piker Offline LUDICROUS SPEED GO!!!!!!! Posts: 539 Location: Georgia Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: AC / Intim / PRR / ETC / OMG Reply #57 - Apr 7^th, 2014 at 3:23pm	Print Post
	Wipe wrote on Apr 4^th, 2014 at 12:16am: Could you post a screenshot ? That's crazy. I remember having 170 - 180 after epic GH or so. If you take multiple enhancements that give % bonuses they all stack its pretty easy too I'll get my friend to send me a link when I see him on again, I'm taking a bit of a break atm but Ill come back to this thread when I get it

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froggy Stormreaver Piker Offline LUDICROUS SPEED GO!!!!!!! Posts: 539 Location: Georgia Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: AC / Intim / PRR / ETC / OMG Reply #58 - Apr 7^th, 2014 at 3:24pm	Print Post
	Just a side note, the %s stack like heal amp...just to give you an idea

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FakeStrake Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama, Derailment and Duping! Posts: 1584 Location: Inferno side Joined: Jul 5^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: AC / Intim / PRR / ETC / OMG Reply #59 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 4:12am	Print Post
	�ed wrote on Mar 28^th, 2014 at 7:54am: So, ive been running this for a while now, probably not optimized like my old ac monk was but i can say that it is pretty awesome. If you don't have 100ac / prr on a toon, you should definitely try it. I am substantially over these figures now and not really impacting DPS. It is almost as godlike as the old ac monk was. There is quite a bit of stuff that does not work, doesn't work together and also a lot of stuff that works together that you wouldn't think would. Mind providing an update and more details?


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Viktor Vaughn Puppy Farmer Offline Eberron burns Posts: 1561 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: AC / Intim / PRR / ETC / OMG Reply #60 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 8:43am	Print Post
	Tanks are useless, make a monk or something with monk splash, can easily get ac over 100. For more, do martial pl, its worth it.


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Viktor Vaughn Puppy Farmer Offline Eberron burns Posts: 1561 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: AC / Intim / PRR / ETC / OMG Reply #61 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 8:45am	Print Post
	�ed wrote on Mar 11^th, 2014 at 1:07pm: I think that perhaps you guys have something in your heads that isn't real. At no point did i say that i wanted to make a tank. I asked for advice on maxing defensive stats, such as AC, PRR, and of course intim. There surely is somewhere a max intim breakdown, but i can't find it. I have the obvious answers already, what i am looking for are particular instances where things do not work as intended or tricks that aren't obvious. Races seem to offer not much at all. Defensively i think that Halfling offers the most with dodge. Dwarf offers about 5ac (with shield) and con to weapons but frankly i don't want to go that deep in a racial tree. I would have thought that having as much AC/PRR/Dodge as possible without gimping DPS would be an obvious direction to go in with the state of the game as it is. Well you want max intim, who the hell besides tank needs intim?


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