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Re: Prepare for the balance nerf
Reply #200 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 1:50pm
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Wipe wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 6:13am:
And heal amp for fleshies is more important than ever.


You'd better start mourning then... I have it from a good source that Healing Amp is Dead and is going to stay that way for the foreseable future.
  

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Reply #201 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 1:54pm
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Flav wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 1:50pm:
You'd better start mourning then... I have it from a good source that Healing Amp is Dead and is going to stay that way for the foreseable future.


Oh good, finally someone said it out in the open. Heh. Would LOVE to hear an explanation/reasoning/rationale behind it though!

Maj? Care to elaborate? Asking nicely/sincerely/politely, it would be GREATLY appreciated!

I'm thinking of new/newer players here, it helps them out immensely!
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Reply #202 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 1:57pm
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Flav wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 1:50pm:
You'd better start mourning then... I have it from a good source that Healing Amp is Dead and is going to stay that way for the foreseable future.

please be wrong.
  
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Reply #203 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 2:08pm
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crunch wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 1:57pm:
please be wrong.


He's not wrong, unfortunately. To clarify hamp on random lootgen is not coming back. I MAY BE WRONG! Tongue

I'm sure Maj can enlighten us.
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Reply #204 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 2:23pm
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Lemming wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 6:58am:
It is pain in the ass to go from lvl 20 to lvl 28 because the dps is mediocre..

LOL stop. No one here is going to take that seriously. I have no life, so I'm actually interacting with your bullshit. Epic Normal is how I get to 28 in like 15 hours of quest time- on subpar dps builds. I'm not the fastest or best either, so
  

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Re: Prepare for the balance nerf
Reply #205 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 2:31pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 2:23pm:
LOL stop. No one here is going to take that seriously. I have no life, so I'm actually interacting with your bullshit. Epic Normal is how I get to 28 in like 15 hours of quest time- on subpar dps builds. I'm not the fastest or best either, so


I'll go ahead and agree with Lvice here.  Mediocre DPS isn't going to make you fail an ENormal or EHard quest, but it is going to make it a pain in the ass.  It's the difference between "WHEEEE!  I'm killing everything!  I'm a sexy shoeless god of war!" vs. "Can I please be done killing this drow archer?  I'm getting tired of this."
  
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Reply #206 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 2:42pm
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NOTpopejubal wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 2:31pm:
I'll go ahead and agree with Lvice here.  Mediocre DPS isn't going to make you fail an ENormal or EHard quest, but it is going to make it a pain in the ass.  It's the difference between "WHEEEE!  I'm killing everything!  I'm a sexy shoeless god of war!" vs. "Can I please be done killing this drow archer?  I'm getting tired of this."

Handwraps, LD. Likely to have 6 ranger levels for 2wf. Swap to any bow with Slayer+manyshot for bursts. Most CRs are 24ish on EN and higher on EH If blitzing in EN is not doable. That should do well until lv 26.
  

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Reply #207 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 8:12pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 2:42pm:
Handwraps, LD. Likely to have 6 ranger levels for 2wf. Swap to any bow with Slayer+manyshot for bursts. Most CRs are 24ish on EN and higher on EH If blitzing in EN is not doable. That should do well until lv 26.


I was getting Colours of the Queen PLs so it was pew pew in primal sphere most of the time. And exactly what NOTpopejubal said.
  
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Reply #208 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 8:37pm
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What a load of shit.
You have Fury 5 as soon as you hit lvl 20.
Wabbot bow or Lit2 until Pinion at 23. Base damage difference is not that big. Or E Thornlord if you have it.

So you either Blitz from 20 or Have Fury 5 depending what sphere Karma you need.
Hell, I've seen a friend of mine on 12/6/2 pally Draconic fear + Energy bursting doing just fine with bow in hand.
Wraps on a monkcher ? Fuck me.
  
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Reply #209 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 8:57pm
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Reply #210 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 9:20pm
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I watched that some time ago.
It's a funny/parody vid, don't know what does it have to with being able to use a bow full time from 20.
There is Sestra's video in Fatesinger, lvl 20 in EE Cry, what does that prove eh ?
You hit 20, all tools are available to you. You are done, only getting better gear with levels.

One of the few builds that can hit EEs comfortably as soon as you hit 20.
  
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Reply #211 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 9:26pm
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Wipe wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 9:20pm:
I watched that some time ago.
It's a funny/parody vid, don't know what does it have to with being able to use a bow full time from 20.
There is Sestra's video in Fatesinger, lvl 20 in EE Cry, what does that prove eh ?
You hit 20, all tools are available to you. You are done, only getting better gear with levels.

One of the few builds that can hit EEs comfortably as soon as you hit 20.


Sigh. I've never said that I can't solo EEs when going back to 28. I said it is pain in the ass because the DPS is mediocre. Which means it is super slow to kill something if you are "out of manyshot and 10k stars" and you have to pew pew and kite everything half an hour.
  
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Re: Prepare for the balance nerf
Reply #212 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 9:30pm
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Lemming wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 9:26pm:
Sigh. I've never said that I can't solo EEs when going back to 28. I said it is pain in the ass because the DPS is mediocre. Which means it is super slow to kill something if you are "out of manyshot and 10k stars" and you have to pew pew and kite everything half an hour.


you only have to kite without extra arrows for 30 seconds in between 10k's. 15 of those you have Doubleshot if you've built for any. Every 1:40 you get manyshot. Instead of kiting and pew pewing, just run and rustle up more mobs so when that Manyshot or 10k is available, you can make the best use of it.
  
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Reply #213 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 10:47pm
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Lemming wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 9:26pm:
Sigh. I've never said that I can't solo EEs when going back to 28. I said it is pain in the ass because the DPS is mediocre. Which means it is super slow to kill something if you are "out of manyshot and 10k stars" and you have to pew pew and kite everything half an hour.

Well you say the opposite so nothing will convince you.
But monkcher dps at 20 in Fury 5 or Blitzing where possible is FAR from mediocre.
But those threads are never good for anything, everybody has their own subjective truth and experience.
  
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Re: Prepare for the balance nerf
Reply #214 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 4:40am
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TractorsareEpic wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 1:54pm:
Would LOVE to hear an explanation/reasoning/rationale behind it though!

Yeah, and that applies to just about every decision Turdbin makes. But that will never happen.

It's like a Dilbert when the pointy haired guy gives an explanation and then says something like "Oh, that didn't sound so good when I said it out loud".

DDO would be vastly better if the devs were not allowed to make a change they couldn't justify to the satisfaction of the majority of the players.

EDIT: Maj, if a better game isn't enough justification for you, here's another.

When you give us the arrogant "you wouldn't understand" or "you don't really know what you'd enjoy", and your change falls flat on it's face, we rub your nose in it. We may even hope it fails because people hate smug jerks and want to see them squirm.

On the other hand, if you come to us beforehand and we are partners in the endeavor, we want to see it succeed and if it fails we are much more understanding and offer fixes instead of jeers.

And while the Players Council may be a step in the right direction, it isn't enough. The players in general don't feel enough of a connection with the council, or see enough of their work, to gain a sense of investment from the council's input (if any) to your process. Don't abandon the council, but don't think they are enough, either.
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Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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Reply #215 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 4:13pm
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Meursault wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 4:40am:
When you give us the arrogant "you wouldn't understand" or "you don't really know what you'd enjoy"

All I can think about when I hear this are the people who fish for weeks on end in WOW. And then I think he's right. I don't understand.

Except that I spent 4 weeks jumping off The Leaky Dinghy this winter.
  

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Reply #216 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 4:23pm
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Flav wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 1:50pm:
You'd better start mourning then... I have it from a good source that Healing Amp is Dead and is going to stay that way for the foreseable future.


It is because they are fuckwads that do not understand that reintroducing 20% in different slot locations doesn't actually increase the amount of stacking healing amp in the game....

They are worried about a max healing amp build, which does shit for anything else and are literally shitting in their pants
  
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Reply #217 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 4:49pm
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Wipe wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 5:37am:
Maybe on hardcore ( lol ) Khyber.  I'd say it's 50 / 50.


EVERYONE has a BF melee at this point.  It's just silly.  I expect it to get nerfed since it makes my fighters a blast to play.
  
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Reply #218 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 6:40pm
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I don't have a bf melee Wink
  
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Reply #219 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 6:43pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 4:49pm:
EVERYONE has a BF melee at this point.  It's just silly.  I expect it to get nerfed since it makes my fighters a blast to play.


If it gets nerfed then you really won't see any melee toons in the game.
  
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Reply #220 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:13pm
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Idk I like PDKS for melee u can disregard strength and get good heal amp for the much needed survivability and spend stat points elsewhere
  
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Reply #221 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:13pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 4:49pm:
EVERYONE has a BF melee at this point.  It's just silly.  I expect it to get nerfed since it makes my fighters a blast to play.


I don't have a bf melee.. (mainly because I just bought them) ..but then again.. I'm gimp as all hell according to Rubbins - and he should know about gimpiness!
  
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Reply #222 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 10:41pm
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Ugg the Unwise wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 8:13pm:
I don't have a bf melee.. (mainly because I just bought them) ..but then again.. I'm gimp as all hell according to Rubbins - and he should know about gimpiness!

You do, you're just bad and retarded as well as gimp.
  

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Reply #223 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 10:45pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 4:49pm:
EVERYONE has a BF melee at this point.  It's just silly.  I expect it to get nerfed since it makes my fighters a blast to play.

You do ? Why are you always on good ole fleshy ranger ? Cheesy
I don't anymore, even blew TP for toaster cosmetic, SP and repair augs and shit, yet it was the only toon I got bored with and just didn't play.
Because it's cheezy as shit.
  
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Reply #224 - Apr 25th, 2014 at 6:35am
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Rubbinns wrote on Apr 24th, 2014 at 10:41pm:
You do, you're just bad and retarded as well as gimp.


You must be SO happy not to be alone anymore then Smiley
  
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