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Re: Prepare for the balance nerf
Reply #50 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 9:18am
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Arkat wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 10:02pm:
If they remove Reconstruct from Bladeforged or nerf it too hard, I will quit DDO.

Seriously, I will say goodbye to a game I have enjoyed for over 8 years.

Doubt I will ever play another MMO. If I change my mind and do wind up playing another MMO, it sure as hell won't be LotRO or Infinite Crisis.


yeah, this would be fucking bullshit. I bought BF and I have like 3 characters that are BF. They can't take away the key ability from this race.
  
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Re: Prepare for the balance nerf
Reply #51 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 9:25am
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Hathorian wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 9:18am:
yeah, this would be fucking bullshit. I bought BF and I have like 3 characters that are BF. They can't take away the key ability from this race.


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Reply #52 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 9:31am
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Shuy wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 6:21am:
I'm glad they are nerfing Bladeforged Reconstruct. However, they should nerf Arcane Reconstruct too along the way. No class unless it is a Clr/Fvs/Drd should be able to heal themselves that easily.

Oh and nerf Joy of the Queen. That thing, when it procs, is absolutely OP when paired with Chain Missiles.


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Reply #53 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 9:48am
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I don't care either way.
We know months before that Reconstruct was going to be controversial.
Fundamental class balance or differences out of the window.
Didn't expect the whole racial tree to be THAT strong.
There are still many good fleshie self healing melees, if this is gonna happen it's the unskilled morons that will get hurt the most.
It would send a bad message again, aka what happened to half elves, premium race and fucked up racial tree.
Nerfage would be fun for drama and tears alone.
  
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Reply #54 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 10:38am
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I think it's good to nerf now and then, because we don't need those easy-buttons, if everyone get's to heal himself easily without investment, gets loads of xp without playing, free Raid-weapons, etc. etc. it takes away all the fun.

And I'm serious.  Tongue
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Reply #55 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 10:45am
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AtomicMew wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:59am:

Druid not the best?  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
  
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Reply #56 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 11:07am
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Shuy wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 6:21am:
I'm glad they are nerfing Bladeforged Reconstruct. However, they should nerf Arcane Reconstruct too along the way. No class unless it is a Clr/Fvs/Drd should be able to heal themselves that easily.

Oh and nerf Joy of the Queen. That thing, when it procs, is absolutely OP when paired with Chain Missiles.


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Re: Prepare for the balance nerf
Reply #57 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 11:14am
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Very disappointed with that thread, a low point even for the official forums.  If I was Varg I'd do the exact
opposite of what any such survey said as it's mostly going to be filled in by people with an axe to grind
or who desperately want to preserve the status quo i.e. not actually representative of reality.

It sounds like it's going to end up in a game where EE is even more boring whittling competition than what
it is already.  I'm not too sure I want to play that game.  Having forked out for BF on two accounts I'm not
best pleased by this; I don't really want to go back to a compromised juggernaut style build just for the
self healing.
  
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Reply #58 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:02pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 10:03pm:
They should sell a new Iconic race with the Heal spell SLA for 11 AP and all would be fine.


dont forget to give some healthy immunities, and some free PRR
  
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Re: Prepare for the balance nerf
Reply #59 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:03pm
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Hey, come on now. For all we know, they'll probably just add a measly 2 seconds to the cooldown and say "There, let's never speak of it, again"... Witch wouldn't be too TerriBadAwful?  Huh

...I'm being too optimistic, aren't I?  Roll Eyes
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Reply #60 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:19pm
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Bones wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:03pm:
Hey, come on now. For all we know, they'll probably just add a measly 2 seconds to the cooldown and say "There, let's never speak of it, again"... Witch wouldn't be too TerriBadAwful?  Huh

...I'm being too optimistic, aren't I?  Roll Eyes

Multiply that by 10 and you have turbine nerf.
  
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Reply #61 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:27pm
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Yeah the bladeforge recon is a bit over the top, but it has been out awhile and many people paid real money to get this race just for this ability.

Nerfing it into non-existance would be pretty bad and would piss off many players. So I see them nerfing the cool down or the spell point cost or something.....at least I hope. Big self healing that can't be interrupted without taking quicken is so much better then scoll healing or cocoon.
  
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Re: Prepare for the balance nerf
Reply #62 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:28pm
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It's my simple opinion that the recon SLA is way OP. But, a CD adjustment would make it acceptable imo.

BTW, I'd be fine if they kept the OPness of it forever. I don't really care that much.
  
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Re: Prepare for the balance nerf
Reply #63 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:33pm
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Meat-Head wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:28pm:
BTW, I'd be fine if they kept the OPness of it forever. I don't really care that much.


Good point why do so many people get all butt hurt over it?
  
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Reply #64 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:51pm
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Just make it require concentration check, there nerfed.
  
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Reply #65 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:51pm
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DDOcrackhead wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 10:38am:
I think it's good to nerf now and then, because we don't need those easy-buttons, if everyone get's to heal himself easily without investment, gets loads of xp without playing, free Raid-weapons, etc. etc. it takes away all the fun.

And I'm serious.  Tongue


I don't suppose you've ever heard of Rej Cocoon before?
  
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Reply #66 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:54pm
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Yellowsnow wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:33pm:
Good point why do so many people get all butt hurt over it?


crab mentality. they don't want to see other people have fun.
  
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Re: Prepare for the balance nerf
Reply #67 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 1:48pm
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Meat-Head wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:28pm:
It's my simple opinion that the recon SLA is way OP. But, a CD adjustment would make it acceptable imo.

BTW, I'd be fine if they kept the OPness of it forever. I don't really care that much.


I think that the Recon SLA is a bit overpowered, but I don't think it's any more or less overpowered than Heal or Reconstruct as a spell.

I'd like to see it useable during Rage because I feel bad for Barbarians, but I don't see a meaningful difference between a Reconstruct SLA and the regular Reconstruct that Wizards, Sorcs and Artificers get.

And yes, I do think that Reconstruct for a Wizard, Sorc or Artificer is a bit overpowered, but not to the point where I think it needs to be changed.
  
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Reply #68 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 1:52pm
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NOTpopejubal wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 1:48pm:
I think that the Recon SLA is a bit overpowered, but I don't think it's any more or less overpowered than Heal or Reconstruct as a spell.

I'd like to see it useable during Rage because I feel bad for Barbarians, but I don't see a meaningful difference between a Reconstruct SLA and the regular Reconstruct that Wizards, Sorcs and Artificers get.

And yes, I do think that Reconstruct for a Wizard, Sorc or Artificer is a bit overpowered, but not to the point where I think it needs to be changed.


yeah it isn't 'way OP' IMO either.  it's doubly shitty that they nerf it after people paid for it, probably for that very SLA.
  
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Viktor Vaughn wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:19pm:
Multiply that by 10 and you have turbine nerf.


exactly.
  
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Reply #70 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 1:58pm
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Bards are OP
  
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Reply #71 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 2:15pm
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Yeah, bards can get the heal spell with enhancemet capstone.
If Turbine nerfs bladeforged recon and cocoon and healamp it might happen everyone is playing pure bards then. Cheesy
  
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Reply #72 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 2:42pm
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SwashbucklerHater wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 2:15pm:
Yeah, bards can get the heal spell with enhancemet capstone.
If Turbine nerfs bladeforged recon and cocoon and healamp it might happen everyone is playing pure bards then. Cheesy

That's be so hilarious if we did lol, especially if everybody gets ruin and finds ways to really lower the cost of ruin, and then guess what the new thing to be nerfed will be  Cheesy Grin Angry

I have thought of being a spell singer spamming ruin though, it seems pretty viable.
  
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Reply #73 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 7:05pm
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froggy wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 2:42pm:
I have thought of being a spell singer spamming ruin though, it seems pretty viable.


You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
  
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Reply #74 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 9:43pm
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froggy wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 2:42pm:
That's be so hilarious if we did lol, especially if everybody gets ruin and finds ways to really lower the cost of ruin, and then guess what the new thing to be nerfed will be  Cheesy Grin Angry

I have thought of being a spell singer spamming ruin though, it seems pretty viable.


It's about as viable a twf 20 drow paladin meant to be in draconic incarnation .... IE flavor.



BF recon nerfing is just dumb. You get hit for 300-400 by multiple mobs and barely escape with your life in order to recon twice to get back to full health. Just to go back in and do it again. (at least on a melee in EE) .... seems fairly underpowered to me. Considering robots can't use cocoon to the same effect without similar points spent it's even balanced.

That racial tree is so yummy for a power attacking melee they can spend over 25AP in it to get everything beneficial sacrificing other trees in the process. Seems balanced to me as it is.

I'm not the one screwing up the best D&D online game though so it isn't my call.
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