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Lets look at nerfs in ESO (compare them to DDO)
Apr 4th, 2014 at 1:49am
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Situation: people reached max level by grouping up and AoE grinding packs of mobs.
Reaction: The devs have found a compromise solution that was implemented with today's server maintenance patch. XP gains from dungeon mobs have been reduced by 99%.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/63619/monsters-in-dungeons-give-...

reply from community manager:

"Its not a bug.

People were using dungeons to powerlevel.

This fixed that. You do dungeons for loot. Thats it.:
  
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Re: Lets look at nerfs in ESO (compare them to DDO)
Reply #1 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 1:51am
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Now in DDO people had more then year of i-win button a.k.a epic destiny twists in heroic content, a.k.a builds that can be best at dps/tank/self-heal at same time, builds that ignore mechanics like conserving mana in quests, etc.
  
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Re: Lets look at nerfs in ESO (compare them to DDO)
Reply #2 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 1:55am
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Steiner wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 1:51am:
Now in DDO people had more then year of i-win button a.k.a epic destiny twists in heroic content, a.k.a builds that can be best at dps/tank/self-heal at same time, builds that ignore mechanics like conserving mana in quests, etc.


Damn. I always miss the fun stuff.  Sad
  
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Re: Lets look at nerfs in ESO (compare them to DDO)
Reply #3 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 1:58am
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You only miss ED twists in the quote.

Moncher and shiradi casters are still there ( Grin)
  
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Re: Lets look at nerfs in ESO (compare them to DDO)
Reply #4 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 2:02am
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Steiner wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 1:58am:
You only miss ED twists in the quote.

Moncher and shiradi casters are still there ( Grin)


Not during heroics  Tongue
  
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Re: Lets look at nerfs in ESO (compare them to DDO)
Reply #5 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 4:53am
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For DDO

NEW!!!: Playing the game has been nerfed. Playing unapproved classes and builds are frowned upon. From this point on, only members of the approved classes/builds will gain xp in game. Please do not let this detract you from enjoying your gameplay. Thank you, and see in you in-game!
  

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Re: Lets look at nerfs in ESO (compare them to DDO)
Reply #6 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 5:14am
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Steiner wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 1:49am:
Situation: people reached max level by grouping up and AoE grinding packs of mobs.
Reaction: The devs have found a compromise solution that was implemented with today's server maintenance patch. XP gains from dungeon mobs have been reduced by 99%.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/63619/monsters-in-dungeons-give-...

reply from community manager:

"Its not a bug.

People were using dungeons to powerlevel.

This fixed that. You do dungeons for loot. Thats it.:


Ha!  Are we sure Turbine aren't running ESO?
Sure sounds pretty similar.
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Reply #7 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 5:43am
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... they hadn't realised that people were going to do that?
  
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Reply #8 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 7:44am
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Meli wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 5:43am:
... they hadn't realised that people were going to do that?


Obviously, no.
  
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Reply #9 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 9:21am
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A 99% xp nerf sounds like just the right thing to do if you need to reduce server populations.
Almost makes Turbine decisions look good.
  
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Re: Lets look at nerfs in ESO (compare them to DDO)
Reply #10 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 9:56am
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Lol. Something is not WAI and people get all uppity when it gets changed Cheesy

I think the solution to any problem is to give a clear and concise breakdown of the intent of everything.

The intent of this class is to be able to do this.
The intent of this area is to be able to do this.

That way nobody can boo hoo about changes when they find interesting ways to break things.

I love that people found ways around certain situations but I never understood the rage when they get called out on it.
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Re: Lets look at nerfs in ESO (compare them to DDO)
Reply #11 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 10:28am
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Rasczak wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 9:56am:
Lol. Something is not WAI and people get all uppity when it gets changed Cheesy

I think the solution to any problem is to give a clear and concise breakdown of the intent of everything.

The intent of this class is to be able to do this.
The intent of this area is to be able to do this.

That way nobody can boo hoo about changes when they find interesting ways to break things.

I love that people found ways around certain situations but I never understood the rage when they get called out on it.


Yeah right.

The intent of this class is to not get accepted into pugs.

The intent of this class is to stand there and hjeal me.

The intent of this class is to smash breakables.

The intent of this class is to stand at the entrance while the quest is completed.

Yeah, sounds like fun to me.
  
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Re: Lets look at nerfs in ESO (compare them to DDO)
Reply #12 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 12:15pm
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Despair Squid wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 10:28am:
Yeah right.

The intent of this class is to not get accepted into pugs.

The intent of this class is to stand there and hjeal me.

The intent of this class is to smash breakables.

The intent of this class is to stand at the entrance while the quest is completed.

Yeah, sounds like fun to me.


Hey little person. I'd like to introduce you to Sidius...
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Re: Lets look at nerfs in ESO (compare them to DDO)
Reply #13 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 12:20pm
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SO ESO's been open officially for a week now? Grats to the ESO Devs for killing their own game in record time!
  

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Reply #14 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 12:20pm
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Rasczak wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 12:15pm:
Hey little person. I'd like to introduce you to Sithius...


So what you are saying is you named your johnson and it likes midget porn?
  

   
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Re: Lets look at nerfs in ESO (compare them to DDO)
Reply #15 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 12:22pm
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Daze wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 12:20pm:
So what you are saying is you named your johnson and it likes midget porn?


Looking at your sig it seems you're a bit of a little person yourself. For the record, I like any porn as long as I was the one who filmed it.
  
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Re: Lets look at nerfs in ESO (compare them to DDO)
Reply #16 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 12:26pm
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Rasczak wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 12:22pm:
Looking at your sig it seems you're a bit of a little person yourself. For the record, I like any porn as long as I was the one who filmed it.



Interesting thing is you look at my sig and think it's about my height and not the view .... bit of a leap.

Quit hitting on me. You're not my type. The only way I'm little is in the pants .... 2.5 inches of raging man meat!
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Reply #17 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 6:29pm
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Arkat wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 12:20pm:
SO ESO's been open officially for a week now? Grats to the ESO Devs for killing their own game in record time!

You will run dungeons for junk loot and like it! Not allowed to pass the grind with grinding.


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Yes, instanced dungeon xp is terrible as well. Its quite funny, during a loading screen into one of them, at the bottom it mentioned how instanced 4 man dungeons will provide more xp then usual yet its quite the opposite. Might this be a bug?


Oh that is too good. it's on the loading screen on the way into the dungeon. Did they just fuck up the experience points, grouping, and dungeon system in one fell swoop?
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