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Reply #75 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 2:52am
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Which one is the polish one? I couldn't tell.
  
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Reply #76 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 2:59am
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iliveyourdream13 wrote on Apr 21st, 2014 at 10:46pm:
It's hilarious the number of dime store language experts in those threads.  Where were all these budding language arts PHDs when I was writing papers on literary theory, Said, Derrida, and Foucalt?

And for the third thread where a number of them said they'd deploy the word without reservation.  There's not a single one of them that could dupe/farm enough balls to walk onto a open hardcourt on Chicago's south side and bitch to the guy playing point that's he's being niggardly with the ball.   Roll Eyes

To put it in crystal clear terms, they can go fuck themselves and the minature pony they rode in on. 


Just said it to a Fijian who would not pass the ball today, everyone just laughed, I don't know what the reaction would be in chicago's south side, any chance the reaction might not be violent if the person saying Niggardly is dark themselves? Not really as scared of a dust up, just when people start reaching for all their guns and what not.
  
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Reply #77 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 3:35am
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Someone said in the mother forums there was no excuse for using niggardly as online we have time to think about what we are going to type and can use something else. Well that sort of had a point, but also it can go the other way, the people who where offended had the chance to look up what the word meant and to see if there was any ill intent.

Another point is, yes the majority of the posters are from the U.S but a large portion are not. For some people that is not an offensive word to use, they would of been surprised at the reaction. Niggard, niggardly is not used here as much as it use to be, but iv'e heard it from time to time, but most of the time from older people.

One word that is used a lot is niggle, now im honestly asking this but would this be an offensive word to use to the people in the U.S?

Niggle is something much more likely to slip off my tongue instead of niggardly  especially if it was a game situation. Example a few players are having  a bit of push and shove and I say, "Ok boys that's enough niggle". How would that be taken?
  
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Reply #78 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 5:29am
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Niggle is quite widespread here too, suppose I have to try get to some place in Chicago now because I use a word some 'muricans have a flap about  Roll Eyes
  
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Reply #79 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 5:51am
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Jelly_Muffin wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 5:29am:
Niggle is quite widespread here too, suppose I have to try get to some place in Chicago now because I use a word some 'muricans have a flap about  Roll Eyes

Chicago..  45 people were shot dead in Chicago over the weekend. Last month was 30 something, and 25 the month before. 90 so far since the start of 2014. That's only because Chicago has cold winters, just wait until the summer. No one is going into Chicago, let alone walking in to the southside and saying anything that even remotely resembles the letters n i g.
  

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Reply #80 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 6:37am
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Go to Englewood in this.

  
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Reply #81 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 6:50am
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Lootseller:  Please only post those pictures of racist Dems in P&R.  Here is another if you need to start a "Dems love blackface" thread:  http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/nyregion/hikind-defends-wearing-blackface-to-p.... Ted Danson will join in...
  

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Reply #82 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 6:59am
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OnePercenter wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 6:50am:
Lootseller:  Please only post those pictures of racist Dems in P&R.  Here is another if you need to start a "Dems love blackface" thread:  http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/nyregion/hikind-defends-wearing-blackface-to-p.... Ted Danson will join in...


It's ok, I voted for Obama.
  
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Reply #83 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 9:36am
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NaturalHazard wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 2:59am:
Just said it to a Fijian who would not pass the ball today, everyone just laughed, I don't know what the reaction would be in chicago's south side, any chance the reaction might not be violent if the person saying Niggardly is dark themselves? Not really as scared of a dust up, just when people start reaching for all their guns and what not.

First, get out of your gated community and go check why don't you?  Second, even calling a Fijian a N isn't even likely to cause much emotional outburst, unless they go back a couple generations here.  Just cause someone has dark skin doesn't mean they take it the same, especially not if they're a more recent immigrant.  Bother to do some real sociology first.

Guns, lol...  I've known machetes, logs, shit even someone in a jeep who tried run a dude down on a court I was on.  The guns come out in response to that stuff.  Scattering when a situation goes bad, been there, done that.

Ask yourself, next time you play ball with dudes who've more or less been hitting something during the day, how interested you think they are in a language lesson from you Socrates?  Yes, if you're one of the tribe, adopted or otherwise, you can get away with saying just about whatever you want.  Not that you'd ever use the word niggardly in those circumstances when there's at least a thousand more effective ways to communicate the same sentiment, and "N pass me the ball" is more to the point.  Better believe you're going to start out as a fresh-faced cracker and judging from your social stupidity bred by privileged circumstances, next stop will be dead cracker.

Some of you should really get out more and visit the real world.  Roll Eyes

You want to satiate everyone so you can exercise your penchant for loving the term "niggardly" wherever you please, give the poor government sponsored air conditioning and a bangbros membership.
  
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Reply #84 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 9:45am
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NaturalHazard wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 3:35am:
Someone said in the mother forums there was no excuse for using niggardly as online we have time to think about what we are going to type and can use something else. Well that sort of had a point, but also it can go the other way, the people who where offended had the chance to look up what the word meant and to see if there was any ill intent.

Another point is, yes the majority of the posters are from the U.S but a large portion are not. For some people that is not an offensive word to use, they would of been surprised at the reaction. Niggard, niggardly is not used here as much as it use to be, but iv'e heard it from time to time, but most of the time from older people.

One word that is used a lot is niggle, now im honestly asking this but would this be an offensive word to use to the people in the U.S?

Niggle is something much more likely to slip off my tongue instead of niggardly  especially if it was a game situation. Example a few players are having  a bit of push and shove and I say, "Ok boys that's enough niggle". How would that be taken?

Who the fuck uses the term niggle, or even the phrase, a bit of push and shove?  Seriously, stick to playing ball with the college English department, or in Europe.

This is your uniform I imagine?



Granted, your language is equally likely to confuse as to whether you're being snot-nosed insulting or preparing to fuck them up the ass when they post on you.

You make your case for calling a charge in streetball using visual aids and a lawyer?
  
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Reply #85 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 9:55am
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NaturalHazard wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 3:35am:
the people who where offended had the chance to look up what the word meant and to see if there was any ill intent.

Asshole is not an insult, it's the hole of a donkey. How can anyone feel offended by that?

Nigger/Negro designates a dark-skinned person, how is that offensive ?
  
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Reply #86 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 10:08am
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Illetirated wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 9:55am:
Asshole is not an insult, it's the hole of a donkey. How can anyone feel offended by that?

Nigger/Negro designates a dark-skinned person, how is that offensive ?


I'd be a lot more sensitive to the needs of people who are offended by the use of that word if people were actually offended by it.

Instead, I see a lot of "people will be offended by that" white knighting of hypothetical people who might be offended.  When I see a few "I'm offended by that" instead of "someone else might be offended by that", I'll take it more seriously.
  
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Reply #87 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 10:10am
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Jelly_Muffin wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 5:29am:
Niggle is quite widespread here too, suppose I have to try get to some place in Chicago now because I use a word some 'muricans have a flap about  Roll Eyes

You walked through the worst slums in Paris?  Now imagine them without the French sensibility and education, and infused with the "i don't give a fuck" American sensibility because the kids there aren't likely to see 20 anyhow before they see a gravestone or a prison, they've already watched their friends die, and the place is awash in guns (on a scale which you non-'muricans honestly can't even conceive) and everything else.  And churches on every streetcorner.

Unless you enjoy a firearm pressed against your head, been there, felt that, my suggestion is you stick to the tourist traps.  You're gonna stick out worse than a German white whale on an Italian beach.  Grin
  
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Reply #88 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 10:22am
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NOTpopejubal wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 10:08am:
I'd be a lot more sensitive to the needs of people who are offended by the use of that word if people were actually offended by it.

Instead, I see a lot of "people will be offended by that" white knighting of hypothetical people who might be offended.  When I see a few "I'm offended by that" instead of "someone else might be offended by that", I'll take it more seriously.

The people that would be offended wouldn't be on an online forum for an MMO.

I just think the people that claim they would use it anywhere are bullshit, and of course they are, because they can't imagine places where people aren't the same educational background as themselves and don't have the patience to listen to an English lesson from them.  Plenty of those places exist, especially here in the States.

That and when an American uses the term, it nearly always comes off as too cute by half.  American speech that isn't written by lawyers is masterful at shortening words and phrases to compress meaning, not bloviating using 3 syllables when one will do (hence memo, not management memorandum). 

If I'm going to use 3 syllables as an American to describe how Turbine's parcels out tomes, I'm gonna say "fuckin' cheap" and no one from any American educational background will be confused.  Maybe even I'll go 5, and say "fuckin' cheap bastards".  It rolls off the tongue better, and frankly makes me feel better to insult Turbine at the same time as I describe their Tome drop rates.  Win-win.
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Reply #89 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 10:31am
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While I do not disagree with the meaning of the niggardly, I think the OP of the forum thread missed the number one rule of communication:  "Know Your Audience"

Even in the US there are regional differences with language.  Posting on the internet reaches a broad spectrum of people of different cultural and educational backgrounds.  When I read the posts by the OP I got the sense they used "niggardly" with the intention of raising an emotional reaction, and the problem with raising emotional reactions in communication is that you cannot control the emotional fallout.

In this case all sides failed and were in the "wrong" as it concerns good communication.  But given the nature of so much on the internet it appears good communication is not the goal.  This is sad since the original idea that founded the internet was intended to allow collaboration of ideas over a broader group of peers.
  
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NaturalHazard wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 2:52am:
Which one is the polish one? I couldn't tell.


Actually, he is Polish and black (from the Afrikan diaspora in Poland) , so I feel very very insulted and offended by everyone.
  
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Reply #91 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 10:40am
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Certainly every time I post something on the internets I first consider how stupid Americans would feel about my words.

In the words of Snagglepuss - Heavens to Murgatroyd !
  
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Reply #92 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 10:47am
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HairyO wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 10:40am:
Certainly every time I post something on the internets I first consider how stupid Americans would feel about my words.

In the words of Snagglepuss - Heavens to Murgatroyd !


As a proud Slovak- and Italian-American who is married to Paul Lynd, I am offended by your use of a catchphrase from one of the many Hannah Barbara characters who are a clear copy of my husband.
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Reply #93 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 12:15pm
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Enoach wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 10:31am:
This is sad since the original idea that founded the internet was intended to allow collaboration of ideas over a broader group of peers.

That idea underpinned every new form of communication ever.  Then the earliest adoptive use turns out to be for porn.  Every. single. fucking. time.

One day the "smart" people will figure out that ignorance and dick pics rule.  Wink
  
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Reply #94 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 12:17pm
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iliveyourdream13 wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 10:10am:
You walked through the worst slums in Paris?  Now imagine them without the French sensibility and education, and infused with the "i don't give a fuck" American sensibility because the kids there aren't likely to see 20 anyhow before they see a gravestone or a prison, they've already watched their friends die, and the place is awash in guns (on a scale which you non-'muricans honestly can't even conceive) and everything else.  And churches on every streetcorner.

Unless you enjoy a firearm pressed against your head, been there, felt that, my suggestion is you stick to the tourist traps.  You're gonna stick out worse than a German white whale on an Italian beach.  Grin


What drugs are you on? Does that wall of blah bah have a point?
  
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Reply #95 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 12:35pm
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I can no longer use the word, "snigger" because of word filters and that's just ridiculous.
  
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Reply #96 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 12:41pm
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Rasczak wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 12:35pm:
I can no longer use the word, "snigger" because of word filters and that's just ridiculous.


You feel the pain of Scunthorpe's citizens Wink

Incidentally, there's a whole Wiki article on niggardly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_about_the_word_%22niggardly%22

It's not a word I would think to use, it's quite old fashioned in British English, but I am baffled by the whole being offended thing.
  
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Jelly_Muffin wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 12:17pm:
What drugs are you on? Does that wall of blah bah have a point?


If you think that's a wall, you've spent too much time in the palace gardens.
  
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It is ok for black people to say nigger, it is not ok for white people to say nigger. That is racial equality see? Its just like gender equality. Some people are more equal than others. Simple.

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