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Stick build advice wanted..
May 3rd, 2014 at 8:22am
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EDIT: reply #12 updated with possible builds.

So.. I'm going to tr my useless pure monk into some kind of staff build. Originally I was looking at the Zeus build but couldn't fit the thf feats into it now that they work on glancing blows.
He used to be wf so switching to BF is a nobrainer.

I got 3x monk pl and full set of +3 tomes on him so far.
Meaning I can quilify for epic toughness if starting at 18 con if I wanted.

Class split:
12 rogue/6 monk/paladin

Levelprogression:
PRMMPMMMMRRRRRRRRRRR

Starting stats:
str 17
dex 7
con 18
int 14
wis 6
chr 14

I will be focusing on DD, search, repair, concentration?, spot and UMD.. May have forgotten something tho..

Feat progression:
1 stun or toughness      
3 PA      cleave
4 thf                  
6 gr. cleave      
9 quicken
12 master of forms      
15 imp. Crit      
18 oppotunist, imp.THF            
21 OC      
24 grandmaster            
26 PTWF      
27 gr. THF      
28 PTHF      

When needed I have considered staying in earthstance for the added PRR If I do this build and hence lose the 25 prr from paladin.
PRR should be 54 in air (15 stance, 24 ring, 15 artifact) and 69 in earth (15 stance, 24 ring, 15 enhancement, 15 artifact) + shadow veil.

I have no idea if this will be viable in EE content tho and would like advice on whatever I have missed..

EDIT: Had missed classsplit and 15 PRR
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Reply #1 - May 3rd, 2014 at 1:25pm
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Class split?
  
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Reply #2 - May 3rd, 2014 at 2:19pm
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I've been thinking about something similar now that glancing blows is fixed with staves.

I was thinking of maybe a variation on the zeus build.
12 Rogue/4 Monk/4 Paladin
12 Rogue/6 Monk/2 Paladin(need to twist in bane of undeath to power divine might though)

The 6 paladin in the original build seems like to high an investment for some PRR.

You can grab some PRR from shintao's ironskin, though it'll be 10 PRR less.
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Reply #3 - May 3rd, 2014 at 3:02pm
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NotKel wrote on May 3rd, 2014 at 2:19pm:
I've been thinking about something similar now that glancing blows is fixed with staves.

I was thinking of maybe a variation on the zeus build.
12 Rogue/4 Monk/4 Paladin
12 Rogue/6 Monk/2 Paladin(need to twist in bane of undeath to power divine might though)

The 6 paladin in the original build seems like to high an investment for some PRR.

You can grab some PRR from shintao's ironskin, though it'll be 10 PRR less.


Not having the 25 PRR from pally OR shadow veil wil be a lot less defence.

Iron skin is what I meant by enhancements Smiley I forgot the 15 artifact from planar conflux tho so that would take it to 69 in earth stance and 54 in air.. Not awesome but with shadow veil it might just be okay..



tachyon wrote on May 3rd, 2014 at 1:25pm:
Class split?


12 rogue/6 monk/2 paladin - Realized I had forgotten it after I left the computer.

I'll update the OP.

EDIT: Forgot comment on 12/4/4 split.. I suck at foruming -_-
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Reply #4 - May 3rd, 2014 at 4:44pm
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Hmm just noticed you can't take quicken without 4 paladin levels. I wonder if that's going to be a problem.

I remember someone said SLA's can't be interrupted. Not sure if this is true or not.
  
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NotKel wrote on May 3rd, 2014 at 4:44pm:
I remember someone said SLA's can't be interrupted. Not sure if this is true or not.


Theyre not subject to concentration checks,  damage wont interrupt an sla, but being tripped or held or similar does.
  

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Reply #6 - May 3rd, 2014 at 5:22pm
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Munkenmo wrote on May 3rd, 2014 at 5:05pm:
Theyre not subject to concentration checks,  damage wont interrupt an sla, but being tripped or held or similar does.


Thanks.

Ugg the Unwise wrote on May 3rd, 2014 at 3:02pm:
Not having the 25 PRR from pally OR shadow veil will be a lot less defense.


Yup. I Just tried both variations in the character planner. I like the 6 monk better.
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Reply #7 - May 3rd, 2014 at 8:25pm
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NotKel wrote on May 3rd, 2014 at 4:44pm:
Hmm just noticed you can't take quicken without 4 paladin levels. I wonder if that's going to be a problem.

I remember someone said SLA's can't be interrupted. Not sure if this is true or not.


Dammit.. knew I forgot something..
Hmmm.. magical training doesn't allow the use of quicken - does it?
  
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Munkenmo wrote on May 3rd, 2014 at 5:05pm:
Theyre not subject to concentration checks,  damage wont interrupt an sla, but being tripped or held or similar does.


Is that not the case with quickened spells also?
  
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Reply #9 - May 4th, 2014 at 5:29pm
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Ugg the Unwise wrote on May 3rd, 2014 at 8:50pm:
Is that not the case with quickened spells also?


I use 13/6/1 Split - Rogue/Mnk/Fvs, race is elf

Has lower saves /no paladin/, but has more armor piercing (opportunist), dragonmark for 4 uses of almost 3 minutes displacement per use, true seeing build in, 150 mana insta buff, build in magical training, remove fear, nightshield and qualify for empower heal. DM as well, ofc.

I also got in both epic toughness and OC.

Its extremely fun build. Definitely not the best around, but I ca solo pretty much anything and keep blitzing and solo cleaning raid trash on EH /the wyrm and peaks/.
  
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Reply #10 - May 4th, 2014 at 6:17pm
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Vic wrote on May 4th, 2014 at 5:29pm:
I use 13/6/1 Split - Rogue/Mnk/Fvs, race is elf

Has lower saves /no paladin/, but has more armor piercing (opportunist), dragonmark for 4 uses of almost 3 minutes displacement per use, true seeing build in, 150 mana insta buff, build in magical training, remove fear, nightshield and qualify for empower heal. DM as well, ofc.

I also got in both epic toughness and OC.

Its extremely fun build. Definitely not the best around, but I ca solo pretty much anything and keep blitzing and solo cleaning raid trash on EH /the wyrm and peaks/.


The build I posted has opportunist as well. There's no getting rid of the paladin levels as he will be blade forged and I don't plan on using a +x HoW.
What I'm most concerned with atm is his self healing without quicken spell..

Your build looks good but I just can't stand elves :b
  
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Reply #11 - May 4th, 2014 at 6:38pm
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Ugg the Unwise wrote on May 4th, 2014 at 6:17pm:
The build I posted has opportunist as well. There's no getting rid of the paladin levels as he will be blade forged and I don't plan on using a +x HoW.
What I'm most concerned with atm is his self healing without quicken spell..

Your build looks good but I just can't stand elves :b


Thanks.

I completely understand. I cannot stand robots Smiley

Thats why I play an elven chick! .-D

That said, I forgot to mention the last elven benefit: Blinding Shadows.

That thing is very costly to use, but I am capable to kill that frikking giant in Tracker s trap on elite under 1 minute with it. Makes me happy.
  
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Reply #12 - May 9th, 2014 at 6:59pm
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So here's what I've come up with after feed back..

12 rogue/6 monk/2 pally
Pro: epic dr/elusive target, shadow veil
con:no quicken and have to twist bane of undeath


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Level 28 Lawful Good Bladeforged Male
(2 Paladin / 6 Monk / 12 Rogue / 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 372
Spell Points: 0

BAB: 15/15/20/25/25
Fortitude: 21
Reflex: 20
Will: 13

              Starting    Feat/Enhancement
Abilities    Base Stats    Modified Stats
(36 Point)    (Level 1)      (Level 28)
Strength           16                26
Dexterity          10                13
Constitution       16                19
Intelligence       14                17
Wisdom              6                 9
Charisma           16                19

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11

              Starting      Feat/Enhancement
             Base Skills  Modified Skills
Skills       (Level 1)      (Level 28)
Balance            0              30
Bluff              3              12
Concentration      7              36
Diplomacy          7              30
Disable Device     n/a            34
Haggle             3              12
Heal               -2             7
Hide               0              9
Intimidate         7              21
Jump               3              22
Listen             -2             7
Move Silently      0              9
Open Lock          n/a            29
Perform            n/a            n/a
Repair             2              37
Search             2              34
Spellcraft         2              11
Spot               -2             7
Swim               3              16
Tumble             n/a            16
Use Magic Device   5              35

Level 1 (Paladin)
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Lord of Blades
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting

Level 2 (Rogue)

Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack

Level 4 (Paladin)

Level 5 (Rogue)

Level 6 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave

Level 7 (Rogue)

Level 8 (Rogue)

Level 9 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting

Level 10 (Rogue)

Level 11 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge

Level 12 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light

 Level 13 (Monk)

Level 14 (Monk)

Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Deflect Arrows
Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms

Level 16 (Rogue)

Level 17 (Rogue)

Level 18 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Grandmaster of Forms
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist

Level 19 (Rogue)

Level 20 (Rogue)

Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical

Level 22 (Epic)

Level 23 (Epic)

Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting

Level 25 (Epic)

Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting

Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Damage Reduction

Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Fortification (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Mechanist (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Mechanist (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Mechanist (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Scribing (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Scribing (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Scribing (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Power Attack (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Power Attack (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Power Attack (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Handling (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Weapon Attachment (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Power of the Forge (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Hunter of the Dead I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Shadow Veil (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Agility (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Control (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Stick Fighting (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Tumbler (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Kip Up (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Stafff Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Quick Strike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Quick Strike (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Quick Strike (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - No Mercy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - No Mercy (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - No Mercy (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Specialization (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Riddle of Fire (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Static Charge (Rank 1)

 




8 rogue/6monk/6 pally
Pro:  full 2hf, quicken, has acces to DM without twists, able to switch between dps and defense setup enhancement wise. Con:Loses opportunist, 2d6 SA and knockdown immunity so probably not worth it.



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Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.20.02
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Level 28 Lawful Good Bladeforged Male
(6 Paladin / 6 Monk / 8 Rogue / 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 446
Spell Points: 65

BAB: 16/16/21/26/26
Fortitude: 21
Reflex: 18
Will: 12

              Starting    Feat/Enhancement
Abilities    Base Stats    Modified Stats
(36 Point)    (Level 1)      (Level 28)
Strength           16                28
Dexterity          10                13
Constitution       18                21
Intelligence       14                17
Wisdom              6                 9
Charisma           14                17

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11

              Starting      Feat/Enhancement
             Base Skills  Modified Skills
Skills       (Level 1)      (Level 28)
Balance            0              30
Bluff              2              11
Concentration      8              33
Diplomacy          2              11
Disable Device     n/a            34
Haggle             2              11
Heal               -2             7
Hide               0              9
Intimidate         2              11
Jump               3              23
Listen             -2             7
Move Silently      0              9
Open Lock          n/a            24
Perform            n/a            n/a
Repair             4              37
Search             4              34
Spellcraft         2              11
Spot               -2             7
Swim               3              17
Tumble             n/a            16
Use Magic Device   4              34

Level 1 (Paladin)
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Lord of Blades
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting

Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack

Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness

Level 4 (Paladin)

Level 5 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light

Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave

Level 7 (Monk)

Level 8 (Rogue)

Level 9 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting

Level 10 (Rogue)

Level 11 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Deflect Arrows

Level 12 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improvved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons

Level 13 (Rogue)

Level 14 (Paladin)

Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell

Level 16 (Rogue)

Level 17 (Paladin)

Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms

Level 19 (Rogue)

Level 20 (Rogue)

Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical

Level 22 (Epic)

Level 23 (Epic)

Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting

Level 25 (Epic)

Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting

Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Grandmaster of Forms

Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Elusive Target
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Fortification (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Mechanist (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Mechanist (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Mechanist (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Scribing (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Scribing (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Scribing (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Power Attack (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Power Attack (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Power Attack (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Handling (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Weapon Attachment (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Power of the Forge (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Control (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Subtlety (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Subtlety (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Quick Strike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Quick Strike (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Quick Strike (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Specialization (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Holy Bastion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Divine Righteousness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender  (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Hunter of the Dead I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 3)

 



13 rogue/6pally/1 monk:
Pro: Improved evasion, full 2hf, DM, 1d6 SA, quicken
Con: no dodge/deflect arrows


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Level 28 Lawful Good Bladeforged Male
(6 Paladin / 1 Monk / 13 Rogue / 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 378
Spell Points: 65

BAB: 15/15/20/25/25
Fortitude: 20
Reflex: 18
Will: 12

              Starting    Feat/Enhancement
Abilities    Base Stats    Modified Stats
(36 Point)    (Level 1)      (Level 28)
Strength           16                26
Dexterity          10                13
Constitution       16                19
Intelligence       14                17
Wisdom              6                 9
Charisma           16                19

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11

              Starting      Feat/Enhancement
             Base Skills  Modified Skills
Skills       (Level 1)      (Level 28)
Balance            0              24
Bluff              3              12
Concentration      3              12
Diplomacy          7              35
Disable Device     n/a            34
Haggle             3              12
Heal               -2             7
Hide               0              9
Intimidate         7              35
Jump               3              16
Listen             -2             7
Move Silently      0              9
Open Lock          n/a            32
Perform            n/a            12.5
Repair             4              37
Search             2              33
Spellcraft         2              11
Spot               -2             7
Swim               3              16
Tumble             n/a            10
Use Magic Device   5              35

Level 1 (Paladin)
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Lord of Blades
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting

Level 2 (Rogue)

Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack

Level 4 (Paladin)

Level 5 (Rogue)

Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave

Level 7 (Rogue)

Level 8 (Paladin)

Level 9 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Adept of Forms

Level 10 (Paladin)

Level 11 (Rogue)

Level 12 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell

Level 13 (Rogue)

Level 14 (Rogue)

Level 15 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical:  Bludgeoning Weapons

Level 16 (Rogue)

Level 17 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist

Level 18 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms

Level 19 (Rogue)

Level 20 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion

Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical

Level 22 (Epic)

Level 23 (Epic)

Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Grandmaster of Forms

Level 25 (Epic)

Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting

Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Damage Reduction

Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Fortification (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Mechanist (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Mechanist (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Mechanist (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Scribing (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Scribing (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Scribing (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Power Attack (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Power Attack (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Power Attack (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Handling (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Weapon Attachment (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Power of the Forge (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Hunter of the Dead I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Holy Bastion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Divine Righteousness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 3)

 




I guess what I really would like to know is a) is thf worth it on this build? and b) is quicken? c) which build will be better for EE content?
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Re: Stick build advice wanted..
Reply #13 - May 16th, 2014 at 7:39pm
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good idea
  
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Reply #14 - May 17th, 2014 at 4:30am
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good idea


Which one?
  
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Re: Stick build advice wanted..
Reply #15 - May 17th, 2014 at 7:57am
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I personaly would pick the 12 rogue  6 monk 2 palie, gives you most defenses.
Other options that i personaly also like are 12 monk 6 palie 2 rogue /get most defense with this split and with epic reflex nearly unkilable + you can get imp martial arts.
Then there are couple dex based build ideas with monk ranger/rogue for manyshot option.
There are options, but from your builds most dps from 12 6 2 rogue monk palie.
I preferd the 12 monk 6 palie simply cuz fuck dps, give me stance, shadow veil, imp evasion so that i can survive while blitzing and that i dont need to jump like a retard around to recon after being hit by anything.
Also prefer picking epic reflexes over epic dr.
Personaly, i feel like zeus lacks serious defense, you dont realy need that sneak since you need to decept them, its only valuable on bosses since everything else dies anyways and new content is mostly undea so his split is dunno..
Whats the word? Bad?
Cant explain how many times i died from fucking breath in peaks from 1-s
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Re: Stick build advice wanted..
Reply #16 - May 17th, 2014 at 9:09pm
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Lelouch wrote on May 17th, 2014 at 7:57am:
I personaly would pick the 12 rogue  6 monk 2 palie, gives you most defenses.
Other options that i personaly also like are 12 monk 6 palie 2 rogue /get most defense with this split and with epic reflex nearly unkilable + you can get imp martial arts.
Then there are couple dex based build ideas with monk ranger/rogue for manyshot option.
There are options, but from your builds most dps from 12 6 2 rogue monk palie.
I preferd the 12 monk 6 palie simply cuz fuck dps, give me stance, shadow veil, imp evasion so that i can survive while blitzing and that i dont need to jump like a retard around to recon after being hit by anything.
Also prefer picking epic reflexes over epic dr.
Personaly, i feel like zeus lacks serious defense, you dont realy need that sneak since you need to decept them, its only valuable on bosses since everything else dies anyways and new content is mostly undea so his split is dunno..
Whats the word? Bad?
Cant explain how many times i died from fucking breath in peaks from 1-s


If I didn't already have 3x monk pl on him I might have done the monk split.. Some of Hensin is fun. But I'd rather get s different pl just for fun Smiley
My only beef with my 12 rogue 6 monk split is the lack of quicken.. Besides that I prefer it on paper.. Would love many shot since he also have a pinion in addition to sireth.
  
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Re: Stick build advice wanted..
Reply #17 - May 25th, 2014 at 9:46pm
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Has anyone done the math on a TF staff V.S. sireth?

The way they did for Pinion a while back?
  
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Reply #18 - May 25th, 2014 at 10:02pm
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I have been testing a tier 2 TF and seems like Sireth still kicks the crap out of it.
  
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Reply #19 - May 26th, 2014 at 3:38am
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Has anyone done the math on a TF staff V.S. sireth?

The way they did for Pinion a while back?


Don't own the package yet, but I would like to see the pinion calcuations if you can provide a link.
  
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Reply #20 - May 26th, 2014 at 5:01am
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ah crap! time to start diggin!

Here is the thread, http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1395254796

I waded through 12 pages of Vault shit to find that for you mister!!!
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Reply #21 - May 26th, 2014 at 5:59am
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ah crap! time to start diggin!

Here is the thread, http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1395254796

I waded through 12 pages of Vault shit to find that for you mister!!!


Greatly appriciated.. Shouldn't be hard to calculate if you know the proc rate on sireths effects..
  
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Re: Stick build advice wanted..
Reply #22 - May 26th, 2014 at 2:33pm
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Too bad the thunderforge staves look like crap. They should of used the greensteel version.
  
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Reply #23 - May 26th, 2014 at 2:37pm
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After running a stick build for a while.... why are sticks made out of weak wood!!! Constantly breaking them and having to hit repairs after every quest or two.
  
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Reply #24 - May 26th, 2014 at 5:32pm
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Mate, the worst is the stout oak staff, that thing breaks down constantly midway through a quest.
  
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