This is more like a what if build idea, need people who can do math and stuff if this could work out.

I dont know if you guys have seen the retarded idea they got with single weapon focus, but lets ignore the poor idea they have and assume it will be as they say it will be.
On tier 3 it will give
Greater Single Weapon Fighting: Your Single-Weapon Fighting bonus is increased to a +30% Combat Style bonus to attack speed and 100% more of your appropriate ability score to your damage .
Feat Requirement: 7 ranks of Balance, Base Attack Bonus +11


So in short you get double damage from ability modifier,
first thought i had when i saw this is: how will this interact with shurikens, will shuris count as single weapons?
Assuming they will, i checkd for the prereq which is:

Requires fighting with a single one-handed weapon, and wielding only an orb, runearm, or nothing in your offhand.

So from options of course only one that seemed to pick my interests is runearm.

So a build like 11 ranger 6 monk 3 artie /For elemental weapons, or monk ranger artie or whatever, but i personly prefer the 11 6 3 idea. It really could be ok.

Now for smart people, can you do dps calculations for that build, with a mortal fear main and tovens as offhand, counting in light strike proc with elemental weapons.

Things that i dont know as for now, how will single weapon focus-es speed interact with shurikens? I assumed that shuris have a throwing speed cap, will that bonus stack with q draw rapid shot shur expertise.
But on first thought, when i was killing rats today around farm, dreaming about playing ddo, i assumed the 11 ranger 6 monk 3 artie halfling with 3 sw focuses and tovens could be pretty sweet

Lelouch wrote on May 12^th, 2014 at 7:58am:


Rune arm =/= centered.

Alex DeLarge wrote on May 12^th, 2014 at 8:26am:


Blinded by the power of that feat missed this simple thing.
Hmm,  how does it aply to druid wolf form?
Maybe a noncenterd druid wolf with rune 1 hander, or 1 hander buckler with high prr.
If this att speed stacks with fatal harrier. Might be ok

(need to brainstorm maybe wel get some kind good idea from this)

I smell a wolf form nerf in the near future 

To rubbinns. You can't swashbuckle in animal form, so why in the world would u splash 4 bard.

Rubbinns wrote on May 12^th, 2014 at 7:18pm:


Right, but single weapon fighting and swashbuckling are not the same.

A 10druid/6monk/4fighter is looking fucking amazing right now though.

Rubbinns wrote on May 12^th, 2014 at 7:40pm:


give up improved evasion, gain natural fighting.

Munkenmo wrote on May 12^th, 2014 at 7:49pm:


Uh... so get both TWF and SWF? What'll that give doggie form?

Munkenmo wrote on May 12^th, 2014 at 7:56pm:



Do you know of any single fist fighting styles?

Scratch that.

Do you know of any single fist fighting styles currently in use?

NOTSunnyshadow wrote on May 12^th, 2014 at 8:00pm:


Monks are natively proficient with kamas and handaxes, aswell as qualifying for shortswords via ninja spy core 1.

Munkenmo wrote on May 12^th, 2014 at 8:01pm:


Yes. But do you know of any single fist fighting styles currently in use?

Master of forms, loss of deflect arrows.

1 druid      empower heal      (H) single weapon fighting
2 monk            (M) power attack
3 druid      cleave
4 druid      
5 druid      
6 druid      great cleave
7 druid      
8 druid      
9 monk      itwf      (M) twf
10 druid      
11 druid      
12 monk      Natural Fighting
13 monk      
14 monk      
15 monk      Natural Fighting      (M) Stunning Fist
16 fighter            (F) Improved Crit
17 fighter            (F) ISWF
18 fighter      Master of forms
19 fighter            (F) GTWF      
20 druid      
21 Epic      (Epic) GSWF
22 Epic      
23 Epic      
24 Epic      (Epic) OC
25 Epic            
26 Epic      (ED) PTWF      
27 Epic      (Epic) Natural Fighting
28 Epic      (ED) Tactics

Munkenmo wrote on May 12^th, 2014 at 8:20pm:


Single fist...