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18/2 barb/rogue aka Useless Cunt
Jul 2
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Last time I played a barb was when epics were still lvl 20 and enhancement crash hadn't happened yet. Here's an attempt at a leveling build...
True Neutral Horc using great swords/axes
STR 18
CON 16
INT 16
rest dumped
1 PA
3 Cleave
6 Great Cleave
9 Improved Critical: Slashing
12: Insightful Reflexes
15: Two Handed Fighting
18: Improved Two Handed Fighting
Other than 150+ rez cakes, anything crucial I may be missing on the build?
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Re: 18/2 barb/rogue aka Useless Cunt
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NOTdarth wrote
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12: Insightful Reflexes
16 int.. wtf r u doing? Splash bard. go int to damage. Swashbarb! do eeettt!!
Why not go dwarf con based. Drink SF pots by the hundreds. You like ugly dwarves. they look just like you
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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Because i'd have to spend a fuckton of AP in dorf racial then
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Your reflex will be pretty shitty anyway, not sure how much evasion will help.
I would rather go human 18 barb/1 cleric/1 bard.
Human for heal amp and feat, cleric for divine might and scroll mastery, bard for umd and scaldc rage (stacks with rage iirc, might be wrong here). That will more than cover the loss of STR from not going horc and will give an option to scroll heal between battles.
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Personaly i like the 18 barb 1 druid 1 fsoul/cleric build.
DEPESSSSS.
It is overall shitty since you need to dedicate a bunch of inv space for potions n such, but at least it does what the barb does best, swing his weapon like a tard til he drops dead xD
With your split tho, you can hotswap to staff and get the dstrike buff, but its annoying to do so every couple seconds
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Limpgimp wrote
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and will give an option to scroll heal between battles.
Ah, the old drop rage to scroll heal approach! Yup, that one is superawesome, I'll make sure to fully embrace it.
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Personaly i like the 18 barb 1 druid 1 fsoul/cleric build.
Don't remember having haste boost there
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NOTdarth wrote
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Ah, the old drop rage to scroll heal approach! Yup, that one is superawesome, I'll make sure to fully embrace it.
Don't remember having haste boost there
It's not more superawesome than taking insightful reflexes on a barb.
Anyway, I said between battles, obviously meaning as a back up option when rage is off, so you can carry only half inventory of pots instead of a full one. Also, scroll healing wasn't the main point.
Lack of haste boost is a problem indeed, though.
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NOTdarth wrote
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Don't remember having haste boost there
Pick it up in the LD tree. I have yet to do Barb life on main. Kinda dont want to do it with how crappy it looks. And besides my swashbuckler is better. Do bard life with me next! We can be like 2 fags, singing in ees, while storms and tiki carry us
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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Pick it up in the LD tree. I have yet to do Barb life on main. Kinda dont want to do it with how crappy it looks. And besides my swashbuckler is better. Do bard life with me next! We can be like 2 fags, singing in ees, while storms and tiki carry us
Just TR'd out of a bard, sorry to break your fag heart
Doubt this thing will ever get into epics...
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Anyway, I said between battles, obviously meaning as a back up option when rage is off, so you can carry only half inventory of pots instead of a full one. Also, scroll healing wasn't the main point.Lack of haste boost is a problem indeed, though.
Obviously you never heard of Sov Healing pots. Now go fuck yourself in the butt with your mom's dildo along with that bright idea of yours.
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Re: 18/2 barb/rogue aka Useless Cunt
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I think your best bet with this build is to consider it +10hp next life
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as a serious though, rather than investing in the horc tree, you may get better mileage picking up 1rank in envenomed blades from the assasin tree.
obviously less damage per crit but the sneak attack and poison damage should fair better overall.
Also I'm guessing your ED will be LD? I'd rather pick up hasteboost or damage boost there. I don't see the point in picking up both via enhancements.
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I've been looking at that but didn't know if it works with two handers. So for those 7 AP I'd get 2(+3SA) damage. And I'd get Shiv... interesting.
Doubt it'll get ran in epics at all. If it does most likely LD or FoTW.
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it works fine with 2handers.
Since class boosts use the same counter and can't be used at the same time, unless you think sometimes you'll want to use damage boost instead of hasteboost, I see 0 reason to pick up both.
Wait if it's just a heroic life, why not pick up 9druid levels?
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Hold on a second, 25% damage boost > 30% haste boost? Always thought haste boost gave more DPS since it stacks with everything.
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NOTdarth wrote
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, 2014 at 8:42am:
Just TR'd out of a bard, sorry to break your fag heart
You're dead to me.
Munkenmo wrote
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9druid levels?
Yes
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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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NOTdarth wrote
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Hold on a second, 25% damage boost > 30% haste boost? Always thought haste boost gave more DPS since it stacks with everything.
Haste boost is better, thats why I said if you want to use damageboost INSTEAD of hasteboost.
That said, damageboost is cheaper to pick up, so I could understand going either way. Getting both is a waste of ap though.
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If it's just a heroic build, Supreme Cleave, Sprint boost and Weapon Bond AC is better than Ear Smash.
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Munkenmo wrote
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Getting both is a waste of ap though.
I see what you're getting at. I'll dump haste boost then since i do need AP in ravager in order to get expanded crit range.
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If it's just a heroic build, Supreme Cleave, Sprint boost and Weapon Bond AC is better than Ear Smash.
I'm liking wapon bond already, gives nice dps boost
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But you are going to hate it in quest like bargain of blood where you need to switch to ranged weapons several times. At least if soloing, but at least bargain of blood shouldn't be a problem without the weapon bond buffs. ^^
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NOTdarth wrote
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I see what you're getting at. I'll dump haste boost then since i do need AP in ravager in order to get expanded crit range.
I'd rather go human for ddoor, healing amp, and access to stacking damage / hasteboost, the extra int should be more useful than normal too since you want insightful + trapping.
If you want to go down the playing like a barb path, thanks to the new barb trees it's possible to dish out good damage without being forced into chugging pots every 30 seconds. Get a lifeshield weapon (vampiric Cleaver) and armor (level 16 tier 3 crystal cove armor), max your PRR / barb damage reduction, and pick up the occult energy resistance. Playing a temp HP build is more effective than people realize.
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Well if you thinking heroics then getting decent ac is easier than ever.
I had like 65 ac in sands on mine. Must be even easier with martial past lives.
All those jokes about million SF pots for barb tr are fun, but not true.
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I played a 2/18 barb. But I boosted dex and went elf for dragonmark of shadow. Played her up to 28 and could evade fire in ee VON6, as long as she didn't SF pot (I was way too chicken to try any higher level ee's). But, I'd def go pure for more dps the next time.
No, I know nada about a good TR build.
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Went horc, human would've been better. Insightful reflex was way more than enough for helites.
Mo, thanks for the tip about temp HP thing, that made it really survivable. I actually had fun palying a barb in heroics.
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NOTdarth wrote
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Mo, thanks for the tip about temp HP thing, that made it really survivable. I actually had fun palying a barb in heroics.
Whenever you want insight from a non player I'm happy to help.
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