Takllin wrote on Jul 11
th, 2014 at 6:06pm:
I'm not sure, you tell me...what does the title say? Have something productive to add?
14 Base + 20 Bard + 28 CHA Mod + 10 Ring + 6 Combat Mastery + 6 LD Tactics + 3 Bladeforged + 2 Tactician + 1 Echoes Twist + 3 Fighter PL + 2 Fearsome Bladeforged = 95 DC for the Spinning Ice and Frozen Fury
Yup, and I'll gladly do it here where I can speak frankly and not derail the other thread any more than it has been.
I'm going to assume you were trolling when you posted a DC number that included using a tier 4 twist to add 1 DC, buying an alignment change and 2 LRs to make a lvl 20 Bladeforged Bard, and grabbing 3 Fighter past lives. With this sort of biased building, I can only assume that Completionist was factored into the Charisma modifier. Whether it was or not, it doesn't change the fact that you posted an absurd DC.
Now, I wont let the bias in the DC post overshadow the fact that Bards that build for it would be able to achieve a no fail Spinning Ice and Frozen Fury. I don't think there is anything wrong with this, however.
Casters are still supreme and ranged combat is still very strong. Melees need tactics to help make up for the fact that they have to be directly in the line of fire. Tactics are the great equalizer. I expect Bardic tactical abilities to be the first step in this re-balancing.
Fighting against one melee tree getting good tactical abilities is petty and works against the balancing of combat styles that is so needed in the game right now. I fully expect Fighters to get a much deserved boost to their tactics relatively soon, and hope that other melee classes get their tactics boosted as well.
Ugg the Unwise wrote on Jul 11
th, 2014 at 6:53pm:
...thf requiring that you don't move is just stupid when all one does in ee is moving out of harms way..
Dunno if it's underpowered.. But the stand still mechanic is horrible..
The devs have expressed a desire to allow for glancing blows and shield bashes while moving. Hopefully the change will be easy enough to implement that it will occur in the not too distant future.