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Pallai Stormreaver Piker Offline Keeper of the Rangersauce Posts: 745 Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #50 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 11:31am	Print Post
	Yobai wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 2:15am: worse than Shade. If you knew him, you might think differently.

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #51 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 11:36am	Print Post
	Quote: you still have no substance to go off of Other than your fallacious testing methods? Sure. Quote: , find me IDk a portal or something. DIAF. It's on you to make your case seem better. I am merely pointing out your lying and crying tactics for what they are. Quote: Lol, look at the little kid crying. Do I have to link your tirade across 16+ pages thread again? Really? Quote: Can you handle this opinion wittle cwyyy baby? Apparently only a tad bit better than you handling swf beating out thf, so... Shadehater wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 3:52pm: He's a more intelligent but equally blind Axer Quote: You are to logic what Shade was to math. It was used on Tscheuss. Not my quote, Credit goes to :https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/444339-Tr-Bank-Cache-((((?p=5366257&vi... Yobai wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 2:15am: worse than Shade. IDK. Shade is legendary

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Dickbutt Titan Demolisher Offline Richard Butkus Posts: 386 Joined: Aug 18^th, 2011	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #52 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 11:40am	Print Post
	I wonder if the ice wall in extended HH has an insane amount of hit points on all difficulties. It would reduce the variance caused by criticals, and should be quick enough to get to on EN or EH.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #53 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 11:44am	Print Post
	Dickbutt wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 11:40am: I wonder if the ice wall in extended HH has an insane amount of hit points on all difficulties. It would reduce the variance caused by criticals, and should be quick enough to get to on EN or EH. I thought Lolth at first, but then gave up. Because I don't care that something is better than thf, I just enjoy the new. Bones wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 11:26am: Sobrien from 'The Claw of Vulkoor' Bones wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 11:26am: Darobard from 'Army of Shadow' I think both are orange named.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Cetus Ex Member	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #54 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 11:46am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 11:36am: weaksauce Oh c'mon, you did so well in your OP addressing my methods, and all you can say now is that they're fallacious? Did I tire you out? Your entertainment value is dropping rapidly


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Cetus Ex Member	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #55 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 11:46am	Print Post
	Dickbutt wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 11:40am: I wonder if the ice wall in extended HH has an insane amount of hit points on all difficulties. It would reduce the variance caused by criticals, and should be quick enough to get to on EN or EH. This is actually a good idea.


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Dickbutt Titan Demolisher Offline Richard Butkus Posts: 386 Joined: Aug 18^th, 2011	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #56 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 11:53am	Print Post
	Quote: Stated as PROOF? Well whaddya know, another guy pulling shit outta thin air. lol To be fair: Quote: As a result, I think the THF feats should get improved, unless someone shows evidence that suggests otherwise. This implies that what you are submitting is evidence. Otherwise, it should not require evidence to contradict it, but alternate data. Since you're so fond of posting definitions: ev�i�dence noun 1. that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof. [/pointlessnitpicking]


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Bones Stormreaver Piker Offline Posts: 598 Joined: Feb 7^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #57 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:04pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 11:44am: I think both are orange named. Ah yes... Mortal Fear.�
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #58 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:08pm	Print Post
	Quote: Oh c'mon, you did so well in your OP addressing my methods, and all you can say now is that they're fallacious? Did I tire you out? Your entertainment value is dropping rapidly� How many more of your lies must i copy paste and shut down? Or how many more of your denying excuses do I wish to hear? Like the ones where you say youre not butt hurt but you really are? Quote: You can call it whining and crying, I call it feedback. Quote: If you want to play a toon in waterworks, THF is your go to style! Quote: THF is kicked to the curb. How long did it take you to complete WGU as SWF? Was it 27 minutess or less? Because your THF cleared it in like under 31 minutes. Is that really kicked to the curb, waterworks only style? Dickhead. Quote: I agree. All of these micro-variables can be picked at ad nauseum in any video, except my movement issues in the 1:17 video actually make more of a case for SWF power. I'm not so sure your thf run was any indication for swf power either as a comparision that youre basing your theory on. For example you may have had to move more and had target move more, maybe healed more, also boosted more as a result of all factors. Another set of issues are what were your weapons, what tier effects, augments, and what monk stances? Even Dickbutt caught you lying Dickbutt wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 11:53am: To be fair: This implies that what you are submitting is evidence. Otherwise, it should not require evidence to contradict it, but alternate data. Since you're so fond of posting definitions:
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	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Cetus Ex Member	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #59 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:09pm	Print Post
	Dickbutt wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 11:53am: To be fair: This implies that what you are submitting is evidence. Otherwise, it should not require evidence to contradict it, but alternate data. Since you're so fond of posting definitions: ev�i�dence noun 1. that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof. [/pointlessnitpicking] So I showed 1 definition, and all of a sudden I'm fond of showing definitions? This shitty logic seems vaguely familiar... Here's the definition of evidence that I'm more familiar with, since I'm actually a scientist: noun noun: evidence Google: 1. the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid. Wikipedia: "Scientific evidence is evidence which serves to either support or counter a scientific theory or hypothesis..." Business Dictionary: Results when a theory or hypothesis is tested objectively by other individuals such as in an experiment or in a controlled environment. You get my point. I never claimed that this is PROOF. I'm merely looking for more data from other posters instead of "WHAA WHAA WHAA", since I don't have enough desire or time to post a 100 videos in all different environments.


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Cetus Ex Member	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #60 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:19pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:08pm: How many more of your lies must i copy paste and shut down? Or how many more of your denying excuses do I wish to hear? Like the ones where you say youre not butt hurt but you really are? How long did it take you to complete WGU as SWF? Was it 27 minutess or less? Because your THF cleared it in like under 31 minutes. Is that really kicked to the curb, waterworks only style? Dickhead. I'm not so sure your thf run was any indication for swf power either as a comparision that youre basing your theory on. For example you may have had to move more and had target move more, maybe healed more, also boosted more as a result of all factors. Another set of issues are what were your weapons, what tier effects, augments, and what monk stances? I think we've been here before... You've already made up your mind. There's nothing I can show you that would make you go "oh, that's actually a decent point". I bet you're one of those global warming deniers that walks outside on a winter morning and says "doesn't look like its getting hotter to meeeee!!" and you'll silently chuckle as you meander toward your shitty kia to do your banking job or whatever it is you do. We get it, you're fearful of any potential nerfs that may swing toward SWF - but you did get one thing right in your OP: Rubbinns wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 3:26pm: . It's win win for your bitchassness


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Dickbutt Titan Demolisher Offline Richard Butkus Posts: 386 Joined: Aug 18^th, 2011	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #61 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:21pm	Print Post
	Quote: You get my point. I never claimed that this is PROOF. I'm merely looking for more data from other posters instead of "WHAA WHAA WHAA", since I don't have enough desire or time to post a 100 videos in all different environments.� I find it odd that you took a clause starting with 'usually' and used that to say that you weren't biased, then ignore a similar clause when a definition is used to say something contrary to yourself. That was the point of bringing out the definition. You used it to defer a statement, not to defend your process. You only posted the one environment that should have been obvious from the feat descriptions. There's no need to post videos of single target SWF vs. single target THF. This behavior is intended. If you're looking for the devs to actually take action, show that SWF is superior to THF where there are many mobs.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #62 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:29pm	Print Post
	Quote: I think we've been here before.. Yes, I'm shocked you can keep up with and recall all your lies. Quote: Oh c'mon, you did so well in your OP addressing my methods Even this is a lie. My OP said nothing or your testing methods. Only that you want THF>everything. Quote: I bet I am one of those global warming deniers that walks outside on a winter morning and says "doesn't look like its getting hotter to meeeee!!" and I'll silently chuckle as I meander toward my shitty kia to do my banking job or whatever it is I do. ftfy. yw.� A lot of mistakes. Like your testing methods. Bill Nye Dickbutt wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:21pm: I find it odd that you took a clause starting with 'usually' and used that to say that you weren't biased, then ignore a similar clause when a definition is used to say something contrary to yourself. That was the point of bringing out the definition. You used it to defer a statement, not to defend your process. You only posted the one environment that should have been obvious from the feat descriptions. There's no need to post videos of single target SWF vs. single target THF. This behavior is intended. If you're looking for the devs to actually take action, show that SWF is superior to THF where there are many mobs. Leave him be. He cant help he was born with the downs. Guy is to logic what shade is to math /end thread
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	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Cetus Ex Member	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #63 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:32pm	Print Post
	Dickbutt wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:21pm: I find it odd that you took a clause starting with 'usually' and used that to say that you weren't biased, then ignore a similar clause when a definition is used to say something contrary to yourself. That was the point of bringing out the definition. You used it to defer a statement, not to defend your process. Except when a person uses the word "bias", it generally doesn't carry notions of objectivity or fairness along with it. Wouldn't you agree? Otherwise, if you used the word bias only to say that I prefer THF, and NOT to say that I've tested it unfairly. Then I retract my statement, because I tried to control for as many things as I could have between the two fighting styles. But, did you mean it that way or not? The definition you provided contained the word "proof" in it. I reject any such use of the word proof. I proved nothing. I merely showed data that is suggestive, and wish you folks added to that pool instead of reducing yourselves to a game of semantics - which is usually where these things lead anyway. Dickbutt wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:21pm: You only posted the one environment that should have been obvious from the feat descriptions. There's no need to post videos of single target SWF vs. single target THF. This behavior is intended. If you're looking for the devs to actually take action, show that SWF is superior to THF where there are many mobs. I did show SWF in a situation where I had many mobs, twice. here you go: Fast forward to 1:19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkG49iU09pc and I did another one as well, that you can easily find.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #64 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:34pm	Print Post
	Quote: We get it, you're fearful of any potential nerfs that may swing toward SWF No, Im not soft like you. Ill play anything. twf, thf, 3hf, no handed fighting. idc Quote: but you did get one thing right in your OP: Rubbinns wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 3:26pm: your bitchassness yes, i know.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Cetus Ex Member	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #65 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:35pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:29pm: Yes, I'm shocked you can keep up with and recall all your lies. Even this is a lie. My OP said nothing or your testing methods. Only that you want THF>everything. ftfy. yw.� A lot of mistakes. Like your testing methods. Bill Nye Leave him be. He cant help he was born with the downs. Guy is to logic what shade is to math /end thread Lol You want to end the thread now? Disappointing. EDIT: Bill Nye is the man by the way, takes courage to get up there and debate irrational lunatics on their own turf.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #66 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:36pm	Print Post
	Quote: Lol You want to end the thread now? Disappointing. No, keep going newshade

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Cetus Ex Member	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #67 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:39pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:34pm: No, Im not soft like you. Yea, you're a real hard ass! You tell em! Cue in the death metal...


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #68 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:40pm	Print Post
	Quote: Yea, you're a real hard ass! You tell em! Cue in the death metal... Basing this on your bloody gushing vag. Entire thread as evidence. Quote: takes courage to get up there and debate irrational lunatics on their own turf. Oh. oh, wow... . I just caught this. that was great. drawing projected parallels and conclusions are we? Youre some science hero! You need a cape.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Dickbutt Titan Demolisher Offline Richard Butkus Posts: 386 Joined: Aug 18^th, 2011	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #69 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:46pm	Print Post
	Quote: Except when a person uses... It's great that you can read people's minds and expect people to be able to read yours. You keep asserting that anyone that has an opinion contradictory to yours has the same bias in respect to SWF. Your video against many mobs only shows me that you move around a lot. Wouldn't a khopesh be better in that situation?


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Jelly_Muffin Stormreaver Piker Offline Just say fuckoff! Posts: 660 Location: Not in the cool kids club Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #70 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:47pm	Print Post
	This has too much official turdbin thread feel ........ show him your penor and lets all sing some Cyndi Lauper!


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Cetus Ex Member	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #71 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:51pm	Print Post
	Dickbutt wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:46pm: It's great that you can read people's minds and expect people to be able to read yours. You keep asserting that anyone that has an opinion contradictory to yours has the same bias in respect to SWF. I'd never expect anyone to read my mind, instead read the data I provide. And maybe you can provide some of your own too. As for reading your mind, I conceded the point that I may have interpreted your use of the word bias incorrectly. Then I asked you to clarify, and you didn't. Dickbutt wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:46pm: Your video against many mobs only shows me that you move around a lot. Wouldn't a khopesh be better in that situation? Ok, you tell me how I should stand still against almost a dozen EE assassins. I move around the same with a THF in my 30 minute solo, go watch it and draw some parallels - it seems to me that the main forte of THF - mass damage - isn't that much better than the SWF performance, judging by those recordings alone.


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Cetus Ex Member	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #72 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:52pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:40pm: Oh. oh, wow... . I just caught this. that was great. drawing projected parallels and conclusions are we? Youre some science hero! You need a cape. I have one, its awesome.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #73 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 12:59pm	Print Post
	Quote: I have the downs, its awesome.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Dickbutt Titan Demolisher Offline Richard Butkus Posts: 386 Joined: Aug 18^th, 2011	Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers Reply #74 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 1:01pm	Print Post
	Quote: As for reading your mind, I conceded the point that I may have interpreted your use of the word bias incorrectly. Then I asked you to clarify, and you didn't. Actually, I did provide clarification. You did not ask for clarification of my use of the word, you asked for an example for how you interpreted it. The only videos or test cases mentioned in this thread up to that point were single target cases. Using that as a test case to assert that something is unbalanced when it is supposed to perform better in that situation is illogical. Your multi target test case, which you pointed out, involves too much movement to use or test THF appropriately. If that is your play style 100% of the time, you have no reason to pick up any of the THF feats. You may as well drop them and pick up IPS and 10k stars.
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