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Sasha Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 821 Joined: Apr 13^th, 2014	Re: Maintaining a positive play environment Reply #25 - Aug 6^th, 2014 at 8:29pm	Print Post
	Refreshed the thread to see if more drama came out... slowly scrolling down and suddenly: Missing_Minds Scholar Of Adventure & Hero Jun 2006 Posts 29,094 30k posts in the fucking motherboards, what the fuck?! How, why, what?!


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Maintaining a positive play environment Reply #26 - Aug 6^th, 2014 at 8:34pm	Print Post
	ha ha oh wow


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mudfud Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1123 Joined: Nov 17^th, 2011	Re: Maintaining a positive play environment Reply #27 - Aug 6^th, 2014 at 8:48pm	Print Post
	Bones wrote on Aug 6^th, 2014 at 8:26pm: Oho! No more /Telling your buddy about all your xploit skillz.� Yeah that's why certain things are done over voice in game or out of game chats. If people still /tell about it they deserve what they get.


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Half Elf Creeper Waterworks Kobold Offline Fer.nan.do thinks I'm hawt Posts: 131 Location: Ghallanda Joined: Nov 22^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Maintaining a positive play environment Reply #28 - Aug 6^th, 2014 at 9:49pm	Print Post
	We usually short man raids in my guild rather than pug. We'll damn sure not let outsiders in if they have the capability to cry to a DM if we give em shit for playing like a fucktard. So one more Turbine activity that discourages group play- great job, team.


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fuckFoS Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 273 Joined: Aug 21^st, 2013	Re: Maintaining a positive play environment Reply #29 - Aug 6^th, 2014 at 11:01pm	Print Post
	Of course they don't record voice chat, because that would probably be illegal, even if you agreed to possibly being recorded in the terms of service you still have a reasonable expectation of privacy in your communications in which turdbine is not a party of (ie, communications not with GMs/staff etc). Then again, i don't practice law in california so take this shit with a grain of salt.


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Barkabout Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1032 Joined: Aug 15^th, 2013	Re: Maintaining a positive play environment Reply #30 - Aug 6^th, 2014 at 11:18pm	Print Post



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itsmineisawitfirst Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 216 Joined: Dec 9^th, 2013	Re: Maintaining a positive play environment Reply #31 - Aug 7^th, 2014 at 1:06am	Print Post
	I heard there were a few incidents on Argo...


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SwashbucklerHater Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 337 Joined: Sep 2^nd, 2013	Re: Maintaining a positive play environment Reply #32 - Aug 7^th, 2014 at 3:04am	Print Post
	I don't understand why some people are so negative about this announced. Some in the motherforums even called it witch hunt... They clearly say that they are talking about text chat. They even say they won't do something against players who just say something like 'fuck this shit' or 'suck my dick' without refering this to another player, because it gets blocked by the profanity filter. And when I think about people like stoddard I really like this statement. Gives good hopes that reporting him won't be useless. I am very sure they only ban/warn players if they have proof of text chat that they said something bad.


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 10011 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Maintaining a positive play environment Reply #33 - Aug 7^th, 2014 at 4:56am	Print Post
	Bones wrote on Aug 6^th, 2014 at 8:26pm: Oho! No more /Telling your buddy about all your xploit skillz. They can't really record /tells... Well technically they can, like voice chat, but since it's targeted at one single person and not broadcast in a public ( or semi public for chat channels/parties channels ) forum, it could technically be seen as a privacy breach. ( since it's The Vault : how about a married couple cybering through /tells while playing ? Are they going to ban them because of all the sexual stuff they told to each other ? ) Come on, be serious, the only chats they are going to monitor tightly are the general/trade/advice channels in all the public areas. Eventually they are going to monitor guild chats... but to be able to monitor all the existing chat channels + all the tells would require more servers and storage than Turbine has.

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Maintaining a positive play environment Reply #34 - Aug 7^th, 2014 at 5:36am	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Aug 7^th, 2014 at 4:56am: They can't really record /tells... Well technically they can, like voice chat, but since it's targeted at one single person and not broadcast in a public ( or semi public for chat channels/parties channels ) forum, it could technically be seen as a privacy breach.� ( since it's The Vault : how about a married couple cybering through /tells while playing ? Are they going to ban them because of all the sexual stuff they told to each other ? ) Come on, be serious, the only chats they are going to monitor tightly are the general/trade/advice channels in all the public areas. Eventually they are going to monitor guild chats... but to be able to monitor all the existing chat channels + all the tells would require more servers and storage than Turbine has. I never thought that they would keep a complete log, but I always assumed that certain words would raise flags.

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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 10011 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Maintaining a positive play environment Reply #35 - Aug 7^th, 2014 at 11:02am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 7^th, 2014 at 5:36am: I never thought that they would keep a complete log, but I always assumed that certain words would raise flags. That means that they have to parse it, and eventually store it once it raised a flag. That's still more computing power than what they are willing to put in DDO, even if it solves the storage part. ( storage being an extract and only temporary ).

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Ah Pook Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 314159265 Posts: 1439 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2014	Re: Maintaining a positive play environment Reply #36 - Aug 7^th, 2014 at 12:31pm	Print Post
	You know how well text compresses?� I'd be shocked if they didn't have archives of everything that's ever been written since the game launched.� Storage costs are negligible, and it's not like you have to run zgrep on the actual server...

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mystafyi Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 836 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Maintaining a positive play environment Reply #37 - Aug 7^th, 2014 at 8:09pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Aug 7^th, 2014 at 4:56am: but to be able to monitor all the existing chat channels + all the tells would require more servers and storage than Turbine has. Wayfinder server would only require an apple 2e for gods sake. I think you confuse ddo's player chat amounts due to the fact you are in telecom and deal with immense amounts. Even if all 500 concurrent players on a server did nothing but spam tells the whole time they were on, it would not be too much effort to log, parse and delete that. I think that situation is less likely then lightning striking us both, so the tell logs wouldn't be that onerous to deal with.
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SwashbucklerHater Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 337 Joined: Sep 2^nd, 2013	Re: Maintaining a positive play environment Reply #38 - Aug 7^th, 2014 at 11:25pm	Print Post
	And don't forget that the chat server seems to be intependant from the game servers, because usually the chat is still working, even if some instances are crashing. Or maybe the virtualization of the chat server is working very well. And they don't need to save chatlogs forever, with the easy rightclick->report on specific chat messages they only need to save them for some minutes and if no one is reporting a message they can delete it again and only need to keep the chats around the reported lines. So the question is if Turbine wants to use computing power for that. But since every message seems to go through the chat server anyways it shouldn't take too much computing power to add each transfered chat line to a logging file(or some kind of buffer whos content gets saved to a file every few minutes), especially if this is an integral part of the chat server and not a system which was setup later on top of the chat server to observer what the chat server is doing.


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Maintaining a positive play environment Reply #39 - Aug 7^th, 2014 at 11:37pm	Print Post



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Laraeph Waterworks Kobold Offline Posts: 131 Joined: May 4^th, 2012	Re: Maintaining a positive play environment Reply #40 - Aug 8^th, 2014 at 8:55am	Print Post
	SwashbucklerHater wrote on Aug 7^th, 2014 at 11:25pm: And don't forget that the chat server seems to be intependant from the game servers, because usually the chat is still working, even if some instances are crashing. Or maybe the virtualization of the chat server is working very well. And they don't need to save chatlogs forever, with the easy rightclick->report on specific chat messages they only need to save them for some minutes and if no one is reporting a message they can delete it again and only need to keep� the chats around the reported lines. So the question is if Turbine wants to use computing power for that. But since every message seems to go through the chat server anyways it shouldn't take too much computing power to add each transfered chat line to a logging file(or some kind of buffer whos content gets saved to a file every few minutes), especially if this is an integral part of the chat server and not a system which was setup later on top of the chat server to observer what the chat server is doing. For some reason, /tells seem to be on the same server as the game worlds, contrary to every other chat.


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BAMBIBEER Dragon Raider Offline Stink puss Posts: 275 Location: At some bar . Joined: Feb 14^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Maintaining a positive play environment Reply #41 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 9:26am	Print Post
	New job opening at DDO . Fuck your friends and or anyone you think you don't know or like so Jerry's thought police, Clowns in cars can take all of your stuff, time and fun and fuck you with it . Then make a Jerry officer so you can fuck more of your new friends and Ect, Fucking A and to think the Nazis where put down . OH well And the new war begins . URGH


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Hand Moisturizer Korthos Resident Offline Fuck+You = Hello, Welcome! Posts: 27 Location: The Den of Iniquity Joined: Jul 17^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Maintaining a positive play environment Reply #42 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 9:54am	Print Post
	eighnuss wrote on Aug 6^th, 2014 at 2:46pm: This type of behavior often results in a war of words that detracts from the game experience that we want all of our customers to enjoy. They really could have worded that last sentence a lot better. I read it as, the "game experience" has made these poor, fresh noobs go fucking banana ape shit and have no choice but to tell someone!!! Ha!


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Hiding Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1298 Joined: Feb 5^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Maintaining a positive play environment Reply #43 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 10:39am	Print Post
	Viktor Vaughn wrote on Aug 6^th, 2014 at 4:07pm: Yea, report someone like Chuks did, reported Burntz and instead of Burntz, Chuks got banned for 2 weeks.� Wow, that's terrible, Burntz is such a dick. Uhm...he's gone though, as far as I can tell. Probably died choking on his father's cock.


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Hiding Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1298 Joined: Feb 5^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Maintaining a positive play environment Reply #44 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 10:41am	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Aug 7^th, 2014 at 4:56am: They can't really record /tells... Well technically they can, like voice chat, but since it's targeted at one single person and not broadcast in a public ( or semi public for chat channels/parties channels ) forum, it could technically be seen as a privacy breach.� ( since it's The Vault : how about a married couple cybering through /tells while playing ? Are they going to ban them because of all the sexual stuff they told to each other ? ) Come on, be serious, the only chats they are going to monitor tightly are the general/trade/advice channels in all the public areas. Eventually they are going to monitor guild chats... but to be able to monitor all the existing chat channels + all the tells would require more servers and storage than Turbine has. Flav...baby...Flav...we discussed this and you weren't going to say anything. Now that CB-6000 stays on for an extra week. And spankings twice a day.


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Nuckinfutz Titan Demolisher Offline The Pig's a tease. Posts: 364 Location: Mom's Basement Joined: Aug 9^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Maintaining a positive play environment Reply #45 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 2:17pm	Print Post
	eighnuss wrote on Aug 6^th, 2014 at 2:46pm: We will be taking action against players who violate our Code of Conduct to ensure that our player environment is positive for all Bullshit Quote: We�re listening! -River And double bullshit

	Felgor wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 3:45am: DDO died a long time ago, we just all have trouble admitting it.
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Ohfaq Titan Demolisher Offline Nubz morghulis Posts: 335 Joined: Apr 28^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Maintaining a positive play environment Reply #46 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 5:15pm	Print Post
	just dont eat beans


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