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Reply #50 - Nov 7th, 2014 at 6:18am
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Flav wrote on Nov 7th, 2014 at 5:44am:
MadFloyd ( in one of the threads I linked in the other Greensteel thread here )... and it was Exquisite Greensteel he talked of. 


That the heart of the whole problem.


This, that's why Sentient Weapons are not there yet too... they want to make something where TF + eGS + SW actually complement each other instead of competing....
It could be completely possible that Turbine ends up doing EGS items... but no eGS weapons, that way they remove the risk of eGS weapon competition against TF and SW.


It should not be difficult to make complementary weapons - there's a lot of suffixes and prefixes TH weapons missed. It only comprises fire, neg and a little bit of force damage.

Plus the TH weapons include AOE damage as their procs - EGS or SW don't have to. They could be single target.

Or if they wanted to merge mat systems, they could make TH weapons the base for SW weapons, if they're going to make SW more powerful. That would keep TH relevant - although it'd probably piss of a lot of people.
  
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Reply #51 - Nov 7th, 2014 at 9:55am
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Hiding wrote on Nov 7th, 2014 at 6:18am:
Or if they wanted to merge mat systems, they could make TH weapons the base for SW weapons, if they're going to make SW more powerful. That would keep TH relevant - although it'd probably piss of a lot of people.


I like this idea.  I once suggested that they make greensteel the base of everything.  So you need to max a greensteel item out to make it into an alchemical, into a Thunderforged.

They could do the same for challenge loot. 

It keeps the older content somewhat relevant and give you a longer term goal.  Of course, having bags full of materials for each kinds makes it a moot point but.....  maybe a raid loot item to combine with each item to raise it up.  Like an alchemical token to raise a greensteel to alchemical, same again in the red/shadow raid...  kind of like the stone needed for greensteel only a raid item.
  
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Reply #52 - Nov 7th, 2014 at 12:01pm
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Kluege wrote on Nov 7th, 2014 at 9:55am:
I like this idea.  I once suggested that they make greensteel the base of everything.  So you need to max a greensteel item out to make it into an alchemical, into a Thunderforged.

They could do the same for challenge loot. 

It keeps the older content somewhat relevant and give you a longer term goal.  Of course, having bags full of materials for each kinds makes it a moot point but.....  maybe a raid loot item to combine with each item to raise it up.  Like an alchemical token to raise a greensteel to alchemical, same again in the red/shadow raid...  kind of like the stone needed for greensteel only a raid item.


Given what we've seen from the Devs, they have their moments, but they're no where near as creative, rational or lore-abiding as their player base. They have unusual motivations for content that so violently differ from the playerbase, it's no surprise that we've lost so many players.

That said, I can't imagine they're going to do anything that saves old systems - they're just going to write newer ones, with newer, dupable mats that annoy everyone and decrease our gaming population even more.

But...uh...yeah, your suggestion would work. Anything that gets older raids run would be good - or keeps the newer raids relevant. Right now they don't have any long term staying power. The second you farm it to some multiple of 20 so you can get your items, you're done - unless you're running it to help guildies, get renown or purely for fun.
  
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Reply #53 - Nov 7th, 2014 at 2:40pm
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If the Devs didnt save the shadowfail armor by making it a base for a new upgradeable armor, then they wont touch items in a working system as upgradable new loot.

They're too fucking lazy and stupid.

Besides I dont trust them touching the existing GS code in fear they'd turn exisiting loot into fucking mushrooms.
  

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Reply #54 - Nov 7th, 2014 at 2:57pm
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Hiding wrote on Nov 7th, 2014 at 6:18am:
It should not be difficult to make complementary weapons



Kobold DO NOT WANT.

or said another way, so far the only way to get some kind of Epic Greensteel is that there won't be any weapon.
  

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Reply #55 - Nov 7th, 2014 at 4:53pm
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DropBear wrote on Nov 5th, 2014 at 4:34am:
with Tolero eating her lunch in the background...

They actually show her eating cordo's ass?
  

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Reply #56 - Nov 7th, 2014 at 10:13pm
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Nuckinfutz wrote on Nov 7th, 2014 at 4:53pm:
They actually show her eating cordo's ass?



No, that's not lunch... its work.  Shocked
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Reply #57 - Nov 8th, 2014 at 1:20am
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More pets and cosmetics.... Yay....for Rest.


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Reply #58 - Nov 8th, 2014 at 2:36am
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Flav wrote on Nov 7th, 2014 at 2:57pm:
Kobold DO NOT WANT.

or said another way, so far the only way to get some kind of Epic Greensteel is that there won't be any weapon.


Why not? What would be wrong with weapons that complemented TH ones?

We're missing quite a few damage types in TH weapons.
  
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Reply #59 - Nov 8th, 2014 at 2:49am
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Hiding wrote on Nov 8th, 2014 at 2:36am:
Why not? What would be wrong with weapons that complemented TH ones?

We're missing quite a few damage types in TH weapons.


Sadly I have no asnwer to give you. I'm not in the mind of the Devs and the (absent) Producers.
  

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Reply #60 - Nov 8th, 2014 at 3:55am
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Flav wrote on Nov 8th, 2014 at 2:49am:
the (absent) Producers.


What did you mean by this Flav?
Is the ship rudderless currently?
What happened to Vanishing Vivian and Glib Glin?
Did they get Extreme Prejudice (tm)?
  
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Re: Any info on u24?
Reply #61 - Nov 8th, 2014 at 9:12am
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DropBear wrote on Nov 8th, 2014 at 3:55am:
What did you mean by this Flav?
Is the ship rudderless currently?
What happened to Vanishing Vivian and Glib Glin?
Did they get Extreme Prejudice (tm)?


Have you heard from any producer since the Demise of the Kobold that Jumped Ship ?
I haven't... Though I interract regularly with Varg, Steel, Sev and NoWorries... And semi regularly with Kookie and Cordovan.
  

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Reply #62 - Nov 8th, 2014 at 3:28pm
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theres a reason shes called vanishing vivian

glins too busy tweeting fwiends to work on a game
  

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Reply #63 - Nov 8th, 2014 at 5:21pm
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Flav wrote on Nov 8th, 2014 at 9:12am:
Have you heard from any producer since the Demise of the Kobold that Jumped Ship ?
I haven't... Though I interract regularly with Varg, Steel, Sev and NoWorries... And semi regularly with Kookie and Cordovan.


Doesn't mean they're absent - they could just be showing their usual contempt for their customers.
They're probably working silently behind the scenes, steering the good ship Turdbine into the rocks as usual.
  
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Reply #64 - Nov 8th, 2014 at 5:55pm
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They should first destroy all bagged ingredients and all current weapons.  Then introduce new ingredients that don't stack, don't bag, and don't bank, and have to be turned in to armorer/fletcher/etc to make any non-base weapon, and you get the weapon in the mail 7 days* later after he's done forging it.  Armorer can only make you one weapon at a time, because, duh, he's busy.

*7 days is how long it will take for Turbine to manual figure out you aren't cheating.
  
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Reply #65 - Nov 9th, 2014 at 12:14am
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Flav wrote on Nov 8th, 2014 at 9:12am:
I interract regularly with Varg, Steel, Sev and NoWorries... And semi regularly with Kookie and Cordovan.


Six headcount. Sounds about right for the current staffing level of DDO.
  

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Reply #66 - Nov 9th, 2014 at 5:27am
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iliveyourdream13 wrote on Nov 8th, 2014 at 5:55pm:
They should first destroy all bagged ingredients and all current weapons.  Then introduce new ingredients that don't stack, don't bag, and don't bank, and have to be turned in to armorer/fletcher/etc to make any non-base weapon, and you get the weapon in the mail 7 days* later after he's done forging it.  Armorer can only make you one weapon at a time, because, duh, he's busy.

*7 days is how long it will take for Turbine to manual figure out you aren't cheating.


Nope. Us non-dupers would quit.
  
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Reply #67 - Nov 9th, 2014 at 5:50pm
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Hiding wrote on Nov 9th, 2014 at 5:27am:
Nope. Us non-dupers would quit.

That's basically the point. Eventually, only exploiters will be playing, because only they will be able to "break" the game until it can actually be enjoyed.
  

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Reply #68 - Nov 9th, 2014 at 8:36pm
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Revaulting wrote on Nov 9th, 2014 at 5:50pm:
That's basically the point. Eventually, only exploiters will be playing, because only they will be able to "break" the game until it can actually be enjoyed.


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Reply #69 - Nov 10th, 2014 at 12:30pm
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Because i don't want to fell like a the regular lurker Cheesy  Cheesy Cheesy
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/449787-when-will-update-24-hit-lammain...
  
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Reply #70 - Nov 10th, 2014 at 12:34pm
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iliveyourdream13 wrote on Nov 8th, 2014 at 5:55pm:
They should first destroy all bagged ingredients and all current weapons.  Then introduce new ingredients that don't stack, don't bag, and don't bank, and have to be turned in to armorer/fletcher/etc to make any non-base weapon, and you get the weapon in the mail 7 days* later after he's done forging it.  Armorer can only make you one weapon at a time, because, duh, he's busy.

*7 days is how long it will take for Turbine to manual figure out you aren't cheating.


Wow. Came up with that all on your own did ya? How special. Items have a tag number. They can be tracked. Turbine doesnt want to because some of the duping processes actually make them money. It will never be fixed. DDO has become both a classroom for newb devs and testing grounds for other games. Whether anyone wishes to admit it or not, DDO is about a year from maintenance mode.
  

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Reply #71 - Nov 10th, 2014 at 1:59pm
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Rincewind wrote on Nov 10th, 2014 at 12:30pm:
Because i don't want to fell like a the regular lurker Cheesy  Cheesy Cheesy
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/449787-when-will-update-24-hit-lammain...


Well told you all that U24 wasn't far from L-Space...  Roll Eyes
  

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Reply #72 - Nov 10th, 2014 at 6:27pm
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Flav wrote on Nov 8th, 2014 at 9:12am:
Though I interract regularly with Varg, Steel, Sev and NoWorries... And semi regularly with Kookie and Cordovan.



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