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Grand Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Champions Reply #100 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 9:11pm	Print Post
	iliveyourdream13 wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:57pm: Already have this on my mantle. http://cn.guildzilla.com/guild/static/images/awards/epeen-trophy.png Don't worry, kid.� You'll get better, just try to learn not to suck.� Stop trying to own it, you acted like a shitty d-bag and got called on it. Be a man and stop pretending it didn't sting bitch.


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iliveyourdream13 Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1521 Joined: Oct 8^th, 2013	Re: Champions Reply #101 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 9:31pm	Print Post
	Grand wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 9:11pm: Stop trying to own it, you acted like a shitty d-bag and got called on it. Be a man and stop pretending it didn't sting bitch. The "I got powned by Champions" self-help group is down the hall. Please sign in.


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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #102 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 10:03pm	Print Post
	iliveyourdream13 wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 9:02pm: "1200 from shadarkai even w/ 215% fort" Learning to read will help your guildies immensely. One of the champion buffs is the ability to ignore player fortification. All of it. Good fun when mixed with damage buffs.

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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4380 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: Champions Reply #103 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 10:08pm	Print Post
	iliveyourdream13 wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:57pm: Already have this on my mantle. http://cn.guildzilla.com/guild/static/images/awards/epeen-trophy.png Buying it for yourself doesn't really count, but you've earned it now (before you put it on Facebook to show all your corporate and porn friends: the award isn't actually a good one). iliveyourdream13 wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:57pm: Don't worry, kid.� You'll get better, just try to learn not to suck.� Nice try whelp. I would venture that I'm a little old to be referred to as a kid. It's getting boring reading all the narcissists coming here to say, "Fuck I'm good, just ask me" in between the useful posts. Go and circle jerk in a thread dedicated to your awesomeness. You and your "guildies" can fap yourself to oblivion.

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Grand Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Champions Reply #104 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 10:33pm	Print Post
	iliveyourdream13 wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 9:31pm: The "I got powned by Champions" self-help group is down the hall.� Please sign in. Why? are you the only one in there and you're lonely?


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Hag Master Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Champions Reply #105 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 10:35pm	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 10:08pm: Buying it for yourself doesn't really count, but you've earned it now (before you put it on Facebook to show all your corporate and porn friends: the award isn't actually a good one). Nice try whelp.� I would venture that I'm a little old to be referred to as a kid. It's getting boring reading all the narcissists coming here to say, "Fuck I'm good, just ask me" in between the useful posts. Go and circle jerk in a thread dedicated to your awesomeness. You and your "guildies" can fap yourself to oblivion. Eddie Evil, would agree.


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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #106 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 2:00am	Print Post
	iliveyourdream13 wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 9:02pm: "1200 from shadarkai even w/ 215% fort" Ssoidh. I just did full party pug Whelon run on lvl 25 pally. Few shortman runs of Stormhorns last week. You don't get hit for that unless you have like zero prr.


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Jelly_Muffin Stormreaver Piker Offline Just say fuckoff! Posts: 660 Location: Not in the cool kids club Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #107 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 6:34am	Print Post
	200+ prr and my highest hit has been 987 so I can deffo see 1200. I didn't see it so it doesn't happen dumbfuckery abounds ......
	« Last Edit: Dec 16^th, 2014 at 6:34am by Jelly_Muffin »

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #108 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:13am	Print Post
	Tactics > autoattack

	Build links Endgame Gear Guide Cannith Crafting Planner link Warning: May contain outdated cultural depictions.
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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #109 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 8:37am	Print Post
	Wipe wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 2:00am: Ssoidh. I just did full party pug Whelon run on lvl 25 pally. Few shortman runs of Stormhorns last week. You don't get hit for that unless you have like zero prr. I've seen it happen.


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iliveyourdream13 Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1521 Joined: Oct 8^th, 2013	Re: Champions Reply #110 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 9:35am	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 10:03pm: Learning to read will help your guildies immensely. One of the champion buffs is the ability to ignore player fortification. All of it. Good fun when mixed with damage buffs. I said it was a quote, not accurate.


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iliveyourdream13 Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1521 Joined: Oct 8^th, 2013	Re: Champions Reply #111 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 9:40am	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 10:08pm: Buying it for yourself doesn't really count, but you've earned it now (before you put it on Facebook to show all your corporate and porn friends: the award isn't actually a good one). Nice try whelp.� I would venture that I'm a little old to be referred to as a kid. It's getting boring reading all the narcissists coming here to say, "Fuck I'm good, just ask me" in between the useful posts. Go and circle jerk in a thread dedicated to your awesomeness. You and your "guildies" can fap yourself to oblivion. No point in helping those who can't help themselves. Sorry, not sorry, you have to dodge so many posts pointing out your weak sauce looking for a few crumbs to save you from geting champowned. If fapping lead to oblivion, believe me, I'd have been there long ago.


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iliveyourdream13 Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1521 Joined: Oct 8^th, 2013	Re: Champions Reply #112 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 9:44am	Print Post
	Wipe wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 2:00am: Ssoidh. I just did full party pug Whelon run on lvl 25 pally. Few shortman runs of Stormhorns last week. You don't get hit for that unless you have like zero prr. Unclear which toon they were on, but could have been low PRR depending on whatever build they were trying out at the moment. Point was, they weren't bottling their tears and mailing them to Turdbine in a protest action.


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iliveyourdream13 Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1521 Joined: Oct 8^th, 2013	Re: Champions Reply #113 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 9:47am	Print Post
	Grand wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 10:33pm: Why? are you the only one in there and you're lonely? I think 3/4s of the mothership forums is in there, and looks like some of this bunch should join them. Those vaulties need to nut up. They want to run their mouths over here, but when Turbine adds a bit of cayenne to the game they run home crying like a kid whose kickball just got snatched.


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Aeolwind HERALD OF HATE Offline DDO: More broken than peanut brittle Posts: 2074 Location: Sarlona Joined: Apr 13^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #114 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 11:48am	Print Post
	I'm not really taking either side in this debate; the champions do make me pause before clicking hard on a quest now. I actually have to pay attention to what character I'm on; regardless of level. Most of the time hard isn't worth it to me due to the time lost on lower dps characters. Hard evon3 on my cleric takes longer than normal evon3 and normal espies together. Now, lower dps characters are 100% relegated to normal runs. Since champions provide no additional xp; they aren't worth it. My time is more valuable than face. And to my higher DPS characters, champions aren't even a bump in the road except they can 1 shot me & cost me XP. So why bother with them?


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Aeolwind HERALD OF HATE Offline DDO: More broken than peanut brittle Posts: 2074 Location: Sarlona Joined: Apr 13^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #115 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 11:52am	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 8:37am: I've seen it happen. Champs are a trap; all risk, no reward. Why would you go into a quest where by sheer randomness you could lose 10% of your xp right off the top?


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ILoveExploits Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Exploits! Posts: 2157 Location: piking @ work Joined: Oct 31^st, 2013 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #116 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 12:13pm	Print Post
	Aeolwind wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 11:48am: I'm not really taking either side in this debate; the champions do make me pause before clicking hard on a quest now.� I actually have to pay attention to what character I'm on; regardless of level.� Most of the time hard isn't worth it to me due to the time lost on lower dps characters. Hard evon3 on my cleric takes longer than normal evon3 and normal espies together.� Now, lower dps characters are 100% relegated to normal runs. Since champions provide no additional xp; they aren't worth it.� My time is more valuable than face.� And to my higher DPS characters, champions aren't even a bump in the road except they can 1 shot me & cost me XP.� So why bother with them? This, Champions are not a challenge. They are just a fucking random death for the melees, the casters have no problem with them at all as usual.

	Dear players, The D&D rules you were familiar with were too simple to understand, so we're continuing our move away from them to needlessly confusing subsystems that will make your play experience less fun and invalidate old builds and loot. We hope you have fun working out what the fuck MRR, PRR, MP, SP, RP, CL, MCL and all the other bullshit we made up whilst drunk means. Love, People who don't know how to fix their own mistakes cleanly
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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #117 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:25pm	Print Post
	Aeolwind wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 11:52am: Champs are a trap; all risk, no reward.� Why would you go into a quest where by sheer randomness you could lose 10% of your xp right off the top? For your goals, this is absolutely true and I don't question it. For mine, I'm thrilled that champions exist. I haven't had this much fun in the game since before dungeon scaling was added.

	Silence is golden, but I only get silver rolls.
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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #118 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:35pm	Print Post
	ILoveExploits wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 12:13pm: They are just a fucking random death for the melees, the casters have no problem with them at all as usual. it's not a caster/melee thing. . . any melee in FoTW with Overwhelming Force can take out ANY Champion ANY time he wants to. Doesn't mean they're not firggin retarded.


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Aeolwind HERALD OF HATE Offline DDO: More broken than peanut brittle Posts: 2074 Location: Sarlona Joined: Apr 13^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #119 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:39pm	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:25pm: For your goals, this is absolutely true and I don't question it. Getting 1 of every class to 28, pure. You can't imagine solo'ing EE champs with a pure rogue. I tried. It is hilarious for the first 5 insta-greasespots. Especially when one is to a fireball. Revaulting wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:25pm: For mine, I'm thrilled that champions exist. I haven't had this much fun in the game since before dungeon scaling was added. I'm still out on them for heroic. I've not tinkered with them on an at level untwinked character. I honestly don't think they are in the best interest for places like Korthos & the Harbor/Marketplace.


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Aeolwind HERALD OF HATE Offline DDO: More broken than peanut brittle Posts: 2074 Location: Sarlona Joined: Apr 13^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #120 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:44pm	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:35pm: any melee in FoTW with Overwhelming Force can take out ANY Champion ANY time he wants to. Doesn't mean they're not firggin retarded. Barb's with Ear Smash can too, monks could have a time with the DC's for champs? Not tried, but should be possible


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #121 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 2:32pm	Print Post
	https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.p ... ost5496702 We have reduced the number of Monster Champions that spawn, and also reduced the overall damage boost Champions get. The numbers are now: Hard normal monsters: The percentage chance for a Champion to spawn has been reduced from 12% to 6%. Elite normal monsters: The percentage chance for a Champion to spawn has been reduced from 12% to 9%. Hard Orange named monsters (mini-bosses) is now 33%. Elite Orange named monsters (mini-bosses) is now 66%. Champion Damage boost: Reduced by 25%. Please continue to provide us with your feedback on Monster Champions. Thanks!


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Turd_Ferguson Waterworks Kobold Offline It's a funny name. Posts: 174 Joined: Aug 18^th, 2014	Re: Champions Reply #122 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 4:10pm	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 2:32pm: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.p ... ost5496702 We have reduced the number of Monster Champions that spawn, and also reduced the overall damage boost Champions get. The numbers are now: Hard normal monsters: The percentage chance for a Champion to spawn has been reduced from 12% to 6%. Elite normal monsters: The percentage chance for a Champion to spawn has been reduced from 12% to 9%. Hard Orange named monsters (mini-bosses) is now 33%. Elite Orange named monsters (mini-bosses) is now 66%. Champion Damage boost: Reduced by 25%. Please continue to provide us with your feedback on Monster Champions. Thanks! They must have had some pretty obvious drops in either subscriptions or logins to react this quickly. I don't know if the guy who runs the DDOracle site still does updates, but I'd be curious to see what the charts look like for this past few days.


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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #123 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 4:27pm	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 2:32pm: Hard normal monsters: The percentage chance for a Champion to spawn has been reduced from 12% to 6%. Elite normal monsters: The percentage chance for a Champion to spawn has been reduced from 12% to 9%. Hard Orange named monsters (mini-bosses) is now 33%. Elite Orange named monsters (mini-bosses) is now 66%. Champion Damage boost: Reduced by 25%. Finally some real numbers to work with! Thanks, I just don't visit that shithole anymore. It auto-aggros me. These seem to square with what I've been seeing.

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Viktor Vaughn Puppy Farmer Offline Eberron burns Posts: 1561 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Champions Reply #124 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 4:32pm	Print Post
	Trip, stun, cc.


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