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Jan 16th, 2015 at 6:54pm
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From the PC application, the last question asked:

18. Please provide us with feedback as well! One of the things we are planning to bring to DDO in 2015 is a new class called the Warlock. We’d like to get your thoughts on this class. Please answer the following questions:

a. How familiar are you with the Warlock class in the Dungeons & Dragons pen and paper game?
b. Which DDO classes did you play when they were initially released?  Why or why not?
c. The Warlock utilizes powerful Eldritch Blasts to decimate their enemies. How do you envision this being implemented in DDO?
d. What are the most important Warlock features and details you want to see?


Classic Turbine, asking these question after they decided to force it on the game. 

Little tip for any hopeful brown-nosers, you better say that you like the idea.
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Reply #1 - Jan 16th, 2015 at 7:09pm
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If they're not going to bring in spears, they should do massive extra force damage with handwraps.   Grin
  

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Grand wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 6:54pm:
c. The Warlock utilizes powerful Eldritch Blasts to decimate their enemies.

"Decimate" means to kill one out of every ten. Not so powerful after all, those eldritch blasts.
  

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Revaulting wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 7:51pm:
"Decimate" means to kill one out of every ten. Not so powerful after all, those eldritch blasts.

Better than vorpal...
  

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Reply #4 - Jan 16th, 2015 at 8:35pm
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Grand wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 6:54pm:
a. How familiar are you with the Warlock class in the Dungeons & Dragons pen and paper game?


No idea.  but I played a Psionicist so... profit?

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b. Which DDO classes did you play when they were initially released?  Why or why not?


I played every DDO class immediately after it was released.  I always want to see just how badly you guys fuck it up on release.  then I go back to playing something else until you've 'fixed' the new class by making it insanely OP, and then I play it again until the forum crybabies demand a nerf.


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c. The Warlock utilizes powerful Eldritch Blasts to decimate their enemies. How do you envision this being implemented in DDO?


I envision a shittier, ersatz sorcerer re-using the eldritch knight tree and some other crappy hybrid tree where you've cobbled together the worst enhancements from two existing shitty trees like Henshin & Deepwood sniper.  I also expect no new spells worth a shit, if any, and that you will devise yet another ridiculous mechanic to prop up the Warlock but yet fucks over ever other casting class because it will be implemented without and testing whatsoever.

hopefully something completely unnecessary that no player has ever asked for like Spell Agility Power.  the loopholes to the broken mechanic will allow sorcs and wizzies to wear full plate, make melees obsolete again, and accidentally introduce arcane spell failure to divines.


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d. What are the most important Warlock features and details you want to see?


I want something that will make Cletus cry about melee dps, Chai froth at the mouth about pay-to-win, and Boogre resume molesting his nephew.  I also want it to be strong enough so Jerry can actually survive a normal run of water works.


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Reply #5 - Jan 16th, 2015 at 11:13pm
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Yobai wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 8:35pm:
No idea.  but I played a Psionicist so... profit?


I played every DDO class immediately after it was released.  I always want to see just how badly you guys fuck it up on release.  then I go back to playing something else until you've 'fixed' the new class by making it insanely OP, and then I play it again until the forum crybabies demand a nerf.



I envision a shittier, ersatz sorcerer re-using the eldritch knight tree and some other crappy hybrid tree where you've cobbled together the worst enhancements from two existing shitty trees like Henshin & Deepwood sniper.  I also expect no new spells worth a shit, if any, and that you will devise yet another ridiculous mechanic to prop up the Warlock but yet fucks over ever other casting class because it will be implemented without and testing whatsoever.

hopefully something completely unnecessary that no player has ever asked for like Spell Agility Power.  the loopholes to the broken mechanic will allow sorcs and wizzies to wear full plate, make melees obsolete again, and accidentally introduce arcane spell failure to divines.



I want something that will make Cletus cry about melee dps, Chai froth at the mouth about pay-to-win, and Boogre resume molesting his nephew.  I also want it to be strong enough so Jerry can actually survive a normal run of water works.




I'm thinking your application might not make the first cut sorry Yobai....
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Yobai wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 8:35pm:
I want something that will make Cletus cry about melee dps, Chai froth at the mouth about pay-to-win, and Boogre resume molesting his nephew.  I also want it to be strong enough so Jerry can actually survive a normal run of water works.

I'd vote for you.
  

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Reply #7 - Jan 17th, 2015 at 1:44am
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Grand wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 6:54pm:
From the PC application, the last question asked:

18. Please provide us with feedback as well! One of the things we are planning to bring to DDO in 2015 is a new class called the Warlock. We’d like to get your thoughts on this class. Please answer the following questions:

a. How familiar are you with the Warlock class in the Dungeons & Dragons pen and paper game?
b. Which DDO classes did you play when they were initially released?  Why or why not?
c. The Warlock utilizes powerful Eldritch Blasts to decimate their enemies. How do you envision this being implemented in DDO?
d. What are the most important Warlock features and details you want to see?


Classic Turbine, asking these question after they decided to force it on the game.

Little tip for any hopeful brown-nosers, you better say that you like the idea.


Well last year they asked feedback on the quest compendium UI revamp IIRC...
You will note that it hasn't happened. Expect the same to happen to the Warlock.  Grin

They ask for a feedback on a topic as a testing ground... That way they know what to expect from each applicant.

Now to answer the questions :

a) Unfamiliar... I read it... long ago.
b) I played mostly Rolemaster... for D&D we kept to the classic... there I played Kender, Wizard/Rogue, Fighter, Cleric, Barbarian.
   ( in RM the list is longer and goes from Human Fighter to K'Ta'Viir Mentalist/Semi-Telepath. [ Yes the last one is really weird as it's a multiclassed from two different games [ Rolemaster and Spacemaster; don't worry it's fully compatible ] overpowered race that shouldn't be put in the hands of a player )
c) Inferno !!! ( otherwise I have quite a few variations on the theme from RM )
d) see a

I'd fail this year application.
If the warlock had been brought to the 2014 PC I probably would have let the other discuss it while watching from the side... because I'm really clueless about it.
  

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heh, if i do remember well, most warlocks i ve met in PnP decimated enemies not by eldritch blasts but by unending evards black tentacles:)
  
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Flav wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 1:44am:
I'd fail this year application.
If the warlock had been brought to the 2014 PC I probably would have let the other discuss it while watching from the side... because I'm really clueless about it.


Same.
  
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Reply #10 - Jan 17th, 2015 at 7:46am
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How i read that part is.
We at turbine hq picked up a random class to add to ddo while blindfolded.

After we picked warlock we added it to producer letter.
After that we went and checked what and how that class works.
We saw some ranged attack spell mechanic, we saw some blast manipulation mechanic, we saw a caster who doesnt use spell points (we didnt like this since we wont sell sp potions), we saw new spells, we saw it can be melle ranged, at will or a blaster or cc type of caster.

After talking to the team we came to the realisation that we fucked up with our choice.
So, what would you as a part of pc do to not make this as fkd up as it will be?
  
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Thinking that they dont already have a warlock running around  in a Private Testing Enviroment and have all the small things figured out and which ED he`ll be running is insane..in the end is always

Designer vision >>>>> Random Rage Kids Cries.

And if the PC actually has a say in the development of enhancement trees or class functionalities i want to find the guy that proposed Barb trees making mobs easier To Hit by losing AC and cut his fingers glue them together and shove them up their asses until they get out of their mount with shit stuck in their nails
  

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I can tell by your typing that you are an uneducated fuckwit.  This explains why you think books are bad.  I bet you think school is hard and you shouldn't have to repeat 7th grade again this year.
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I like how they steal other's people ideas and call it following the player's feedback.
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Imaranger might see this as a perfect opportunity to insert a mole.  Or in his case, gerbil.
  

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Trying to imagine how good ddo would be if those incompetent idiots made ddos code open source.

Some of us would actually mess around with it and optimize the shit and mess they did.
Might actually make the game less laggy and shit
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Bacardi wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 8:21am:
And if the PC actually has a say in the development of enhancement trees or class functionalities i want to find the guy that proposed Barb trees making mobs easier To Hit by losing AC and cut his fingers glue them together and shove them up their asses until they get out of their mount with shit stuck in their nails


Wade In ?

That was before the PC, it's form the original Tree. After the Pc went through it it lost it's AC loss.
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/450656-Barbarian-Frenzied-Berserker-Ch...

As far as I remember in the new trees, there's no enhancement that reduces the AC.
Now if you have a specific enhancement in mind I'd like to know.
  

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Flav wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 11:23am:
Wade In ?

That was before the PC, it's form the original Tree. After the Pc went through it it lost it's AC loss.
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/450656-Barbarian-Frenzied-Berserker-Ch...

As far as I remember in the new trees, there's no enhancement that reduces the AC.
Now if you have a specific enhancement in mind I'd like to know.

Cracking Attack: Melee Attack: Deals +1/+2/+3[W] extra damage. Damaging enemies reduces their AC by -1/-2/-3 for 20 seconds. (Activation Cost: 5 Hit Points. Cooldown: 30 seconds)

Wade In: When you Supreme Cleave, you gain +1 Primal bonus to Attack and -1 AC per enemy damaged, up to 3/6/10 maximum. Lasts for 4 seconds.

Do You Like Pain?: When you are hit: [20/40/60]% chance attacker loses 10 AC.

All 3 of these are 100% useless.
  

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Red Sox H8 Yankees wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 12:15pm:
Cracking Attack: Melee Attack: Deals +1/+2/+3[W] extra damage. Damaging enemies reduces their AC by -1/-2/-3 for 20 seconds. (Activation Cost: 5 Hit Points. Cooldown: 30 seconds)

Wade In: When you Supreme Cleave, you gain +1 Primal bonus to Attack and -1 AC per enemy damaged, up to 3/6/10 maximum. Lasts for 4 seconds.

Do You Like Pain?: When you are hit: [20/40/60]% chance attacker loses 10 AC.

All 3 of these are 100% useless.

Thank you Red.

Also you have to take these fucking things to get to the T5s  you need or just to dodge the +3 haggle/Listen/Spot crap that is your other choise.
  

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I can tell by your typing that you are an uneducated fuckwit.  This explains why you think books are bad.  I bet you think school is hard and you shouldn't have to repeat 7th grade again this year.
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Red Sox H8 Yankees wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 12:15pm:
Cracking Attack: Melee Attack: Deals +1/+2/+3[W] extra damage. Damaging enemies reduces their AC by -1/-2/-3 for 20 seconds. (Activation Cost: 5 Hit Points. Cooldown: 30 seconds)

Wade In: When you Supreme Cleave, you gain +1 Primal bonus to Attack and -1 AC per enemy damaged, up to 3/6/10 maximum. Lasts for 4 seconds.

Do You Like Pain?: When you are hit: [20/40/60]% chance attacker loses 10 AC.

All 3 of these are 100% useless.



Wade In: (1/1/1 AP, Requires: Supreme Cleave) When you Supreme Cleave, you gain +1 Primal bonus to Attack --- per enemy damaged, up to 3/6/10 maximum. Lasts for 4 seconds.

If you had taken time to actually read the post I likned you woulf have found : (If you see "---" that means text was removed; likely a penalty or condition.)
Moron it was YOUR AC that was decreased.

As for the other ones... They were there BEFORE the FUCKING PC, they date back from the Enhancement Crash, so the PC had no hand in thinking them.
We tried to change stuff... In some case it worked in other it didn't.


  

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What is this AC you are referring too?

Is there a reason to have it in game other than maybe Heroic Levels and surely not on a Barb?

Mobs losing 10 out of their 100 AC makes them any weaker?

Do you want to feel special or do you actually want to make us think you made a difference?

You are a polished Tard and nothing more than an adopted retard Mongolian girl with 3 heads (makes it easier to ass kissing,brown nosing etc) just to make Turbine look like a nice and sensitive company.

Can you count to blue frog?
  

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I can tell by your typing that you are an uneducated fuckwit.  This explains why you think books are bad.  I bet you think school is hard and you shouldn't have to repeat 7th grade again this year.
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Flav wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 1:26pm:
If you had taken time to actually read the post I likned you woulf

Damn someone is writing like a mad man to defend the PC
  

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Bacardi wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 1:54pm:
Damn someone is writing like a mad man to defend the PC


Actually, not drunk enough for a Saturday evening.
  

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Fair enough.
Come back stronger fellow eurotrash
  

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Bacardi wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 1:54pm:
Damn someone is writing like a mad man to defend the PC


People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones....
Some of your posts are as coherent as Bambi's.

So the Barb trees have some useless shit - I miss the connection to how that is the PC's or Flav's fault?
And why is Flav in for such a serve of racist vitriol?
If you're really angry then join the PC and provide your feedback direct to Sev.
  
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Are you trying too defend the PC too retard?

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/450656-Barbarian-Frenzied-Berserker-Ch...

Here that sums it up nicely

90% of the people in PC disagreed on the direction where the Devs were trying to push barb but they went ahead and did their thing anyway.

Ignoring every critisism/healthy feedback no matter how nice it was,which was the reason to have a PC in the first place.

Racist?Dude what part of fellow Eurotrash you dont get?My country has to deal 10 times the fucking racism that France is facing.

If this forum have become a ladies club and you are the president i pass.

If PC was serving any purpose and there was a majority vote on changes even with Devs having a +20 vote sure but i am not a fucking free Beta Tester/Trophy wife

People already said that they were given the choice to choose which pack should be epic first the majority voted Vale...we got Necro 4 instead,when people were asked why? the answer from even PC members was that there wasn`t a majority Shocked that by definition means most of the people chose it instead of the other packs proposed.

Flav was drunk he couldn`t remember which Barbarian skills we were talking about and Red replied since i wasn`t here

When you makes statements like these

Flav wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 11:23am:
As far as I remember in the new trees, there's no enhancement that reduces the AC.
Now if you have a specific enhancement in mind I'd like to know.


After a MORON statement yeah buddy i wont be polite and accept your ignorance
  

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I can tell by your typing that you are an uneducated fuckwit.  This explains why you think books are bad.  I bet you think school is hard and you shouldn't have to repeat 7th grade again this year.
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