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Re: Any decent bow builds that don't require 10k
Reply #25 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 5:51pm
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harharharhar wrote on Apr 24th, 2015 at 5:45pm:
WTF is your problem?


My problem is pushy self appointed "master builders" who attack any new builders or people who disagree because the cred you get here on the vault has made you defensive little cunts afraid that they will become irrelevant as their pet projects become outdated.

Sadly, on your bad days you fellows are little better than Cetus.

Also, You DON'T ACTIVELY PLAY, so you can ignore all the inconsistencies of the play experience and bugs just so you can cling to your Alpha solution and the profile your past achievements have earned you.   

Short answer? You're a contemptibly insecure little man, and I don't put much truck in  that type of phony.
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Re: Any decent bow builds that don't require 10k
Reply #26 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 6:04pm
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Hag Master wrote on Apr 24th, 2015 at 5:51pm:
My problem is pushy self appointed "master builders" who attack any new builders or people who disagree because the cred you get here on the vault has made you defensive little cunts afraid that they will become irrelevant as their pet projects become outdated.

Sadly, on your bad days you fellows are little better than Cetus.

Also, You DON'T ACTIVELY PLAY, so you can ignore all the inconsistencies of the play experience and bugs just so you can cling to your Alpha solution and the profile your past achievements have earned you.   

Short answer? You're a contemptibly insecure little man, and I don't put much truck in  that type of phony.


First of all, you keep calling me a "master builder" (thanks!), I've never called myself that. Not once.

Second of all, for the second time, I've been playing actively again for about a month. And before that, I played since 2006. I dont really give a fuck what misguided and uninformed opinions you have about this game, math, or how I or anyone else plays. But I do give a fuck that you're an idiot, and you're attacking me for doing nothing more than providing information for people to use to make build decisions.

You're an asshole.
  
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Reply #27 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 6:28pm
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Hag Master wrote on Apr 24th, 2015 at 5:43pm:
Munk: " slayer slayer slayer slayer slayer slayer slayer slayer slayer slayer slayer slayer slayer slayer slayer slayer slayer slayer slayer slayer "


Huh? where the fuck did that come from?
  
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Reply #28 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 6:46pm
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harharharhar wrote on Apr 24th, 2015 at 6:04pm:
First of all, you keep calling me a "master builder" (thanks!), I've never called myself that. Not once.

Second of all, for the second time, I've been playing actively again for about a month. And before that, I played since 2006. I dont really give a fuck what misguided and uninformed opinions you have about this game, math, or how I or anyone else plays. But I do give a fuck that you're an idiot, and you're attacking me for doing nothing more than providing information for people to use to make build decisions.

You're an asshole.



And you're a self-important little bitch that is super-sad to see her relevance slipping away. There, feel better now?


(a whole month! wow.)
  
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Reply #29 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 6:56pm
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harharharhar wrote on Apr 24th, 2015 at 5:46pm:
Solved? No, but maybe gave a decent idea of how to compare things.

I was making a reference to Shade and his hard-headed disdain for math. I was trying to be funny as well as obtuse.

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Reply #30 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 6:58pm
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Munkenmo wrote on Apr 24th, 2015 at 6:28pm:
Huh? where the fuck did that come from?

I was scratching my head on that one too.
  
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Reply #31 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 7:01pm
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Munkenmo wrote on Apr 24th, 2015 at 6:28pm:
Huh? where the fuck did that come from?


Hag gets confused a lot of the time.
  
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Reply #32 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 11:38pm
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Arkat wrote on Apr 24th, 2015 at 6:56pm:
I was making a reference to Shade and his hard-headed disdain for math. I was trying to be funny as well as obtuse.

Sorry.


youre good buddy. Honestly, I hope you're right. It would be nice to see more ranged options than just /6 Monk.

  
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Re: Any decent bow builds that don't require 10k
Reply #33 - Apr 25th, 2015 at 2:44am
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harharharhar wrote on Apr 24th, 2015 at 5:18pm:
Here's a breakdown of total Damage Multiplier (that is, the amount of extra missiles over 1 initial arrow a 2 minute period) in several scenarios including Manyshot w/o 10K (@50% Doubleshot)l, and Manyshot with 10k, at various Wisdom values.

That's pretty cool to see that on "paper". Thanks dude.
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Re: Any decent bow builds that don't require 10k
Reply #34 - Apr 27th, 2015 at 9:51am
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I have liked running pure ranger double shot build in shiradi champion.  I forgot how easy all the cc in shiradi makes things.  Anyway, not the ultimate dps, but double shot usually is running around 74% with killer.  I get a ton of extra feats to pick from so I get sort and weapon focus ranged and throw.  I am sure they will fix the throwing one though. 

I tried to work a 15/5 pally ranger build on lamania but had a lack of feats.  I am thinking the 14/6 is nice but you only get 1 lvl 4 spell... not sure if not having zeal and holy sword works.
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Re: Any decent bow builds that don't require 10k
Reply #35 - Apr 27th, 2015 at 10:34am
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Kluege wrote on Apr 27th, 2015 at 9:51am:
I have liked running pure ranger double shot build in shiradi champion.  I forgot how easy all the cc in shiradi makes things.  Anyway, not the ultimate dps, but double shot usually is running around 74% with killer.  I get a ton of extra feats to pick from so I get sort and weapon focus ranged and throw.  I am sure they will fix the throwing one though. 

I tried to work a 15/5 pally ranger build on lamania but had a lack of feats.  I am thinking the 14/6 is nice but you only get 1 lvl 4 spell... not sure if not having zeal and holy sword works.

Zeal doesn't work on bows or crossbows.
  
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Re: Any decent bow builds that don't require 10k
Reply #36 - Apr 27th, 2015 at 10:47am
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Arkat wrote on Apr 27th, 2015 at 10:34am:
Zeal doesn't work on bows or crossbows.


Wait what's broken with ranged and throwing feats? Is weapon focus range misbehaving?
  
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Re: Any decent bow builds that don't require 10k
Reply #37 - Apr 29th, 2015 at 1:44pm
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AFAIR Zeal correctly grants only doublestrike, unlike items.

(Not that I think items should be changed, prefer they continue as is & description fixed.)
  
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