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I take it all back, Turdbine are marketing gurus
May 26th, 2015 at 9:33am
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http://massivelyop.com/2015/05/22/turbine-on-the-future-of-dungeons-dragons-onli...

Wow, how amazing is this writeup.
3 whole questions.
Turdbine are marketing gurus indeed - leave them hungry for more with that little teaser at the end....

Which Dev is John Cataldo?
I don't recognise him from his LinkedIn profile.  Obviously drew the short straw.

Where the hell was the Producer to speak on behalf of the product?
Free advertising guys - not that hard to make an effort????
  
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Reply #1 - May 26th, 2015 at 9:52am
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John Cataldo is Varg.
  
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Reply #2 - May 26th, 2015 at 10:12am
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To my eyes, they are very quickly rushing to a stable "end" to sail the game off into maintenance mode.

Upping the amount of updates for the rest of this year?  Check.

Hurriedly trying to fix and smooth all enhancement trees?  Check.

Pushing unwarranted to level 30?  Check.

Pushing into new hardware to support the game in maintenance mode?  Check.

I don't know if it will be the end of this year, sometime next year, but it feels as if they definitely have a definitive game end deadline in their minds now.
  
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Reply #3 - May 26th, 2015 at 10:20am
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DoRayEgon wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 10:12am:
To my eyes, they are very quickly rushing to a stable "end" to sail the game off into maintenance mode.

Upping the amount of updates for the rest of this year?  Check.

Hurriedly trying to fix and smooth all enhancement trees?  Check.

Pushing unwarranted to level 30?  Check.

Pushing into new hardware to support the game in maintenance mode?  Check.

I don't know if it will be the end of this year, sometime next year, but it feels as if they definitely have a definitive game end deadline in their minds now.

this.

it was never more clear then when they brought in sev_pay, who ushered AC into maintmode. What better person?
  
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Reply #4 - May 26th, 2015 at 10:30am
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Rubbinns wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 10:20am:
it was never more clear then when they brought in sev_pay, who ushered AC into maintmode. What better person?


Yes.
  
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Reply #5 - May 26th, 2015 at 11:07am
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Rubbinns wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 10:20am:
this.

it was never more clear then when they brought in sev_pay, who ushered AC into maintmode. What better person?


I don't remember what I was telling lasat year..... I thik it was along the lines :

2015 and eventually 2016 will see updates... after DDO will be in Maintenance Mode.

Now the interesting bit to start nagging Sev about is what he did/is doing/tried to do for AC... opening up the server code so that player run servers can be made.
( from what I've read the players still need to authenticate with Turbine... and even that seems to have changed... )
  
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Reply #6 - May 26th, 2015 at 12:24pm
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I can't imagine Hasbro letting Turbine turn loose a D&D licensed product even if they wanted to, but that would be ideal.

So what is the status of AC?
  
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Flav wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 11:07am:
I don't remember what I was telling lasat year..... I thik it was along the lines :

2015 and eventually 2016 will see updates... after DDO will be in Maintenance Mode.

Now the interesting bit to start nagging Sev about is what he did/is doing/tried to do for AC... opening up the server code so that player run servers can be made.
( from what I've read the players still need to authenticate with Turbine... and even that seems to have changed... )


If players continue to drop subs, then that's the only outcome.

However, if they don't...well, they'll keep developing.
  
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Reply #8 - May 26th, 2015 at 12:46pm
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Meursault wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 12:24pm:
I can't imagine Hasbro letting Turbine turn loose a D&D licensed product even if they wanted to, but that would be ideal.

So what is the status of AC?


Still not really worth the investment with the silly to hit calculation.
  
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Reply #10 - May 26th, 2015 at 5:11pm
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Flav wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 11:07am:
opening up the server code so that player run servers can be made.

It'll never happen.
  
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Reply #11 - May 26th, 2015 at 5:36pm
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Theyve been heading to maintenance mode for the last 4 years... apparently.

Maybe they still have plans. Would be nice to have 15 or so more dungeons and a couple of new raids at 30.

And well balanced end game gear.

Would be nice but I would just be happy with a focus on bugs for a while...
  
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 5:45pm:
Lvl 30 is the worst part about all of this


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DropBear wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 9:33am:
http://massivelyop.com/2015/05/22/turbine-on-the-future-of-dungeons-dragons-onli...

Which Dev is John Cataldo?
I don't recognise him from his LinkedIn profile.  Obviously drew the short straw.

Where the hell was the Producer to speak on behalf of the product?
Free advertising guys - not that hard to make an effort????


They are preparing varg for his soon to be new position of Producer.
  
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Reply #15 - May 26th, 2015 at 7:17pm
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mudfud wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 7:03pm:
They are preparing varg for his soon to be new position of Producer.


Makes sense.
Sev's been in the role 6-12 months, so due for a move to
LOTRO.
I guess he can help them put LOTRO into maintenance too.
  
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Reply #16 - May 26th, 2015 at 7:59pm
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What I would give to see a dev have to deal with a actual real reporter instead of these glorified bloggers.

Sadly they are a fast vanishing breed, and not apt to cover niche MMO games, but their ability to smell fear and bullshit? five minutes with a Turbine stooge would drive them into a frenzy.
  
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Reply #17 - May 26th, 2015 at 9:39pm
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Has there ever been a real reporter when it came to PC games? Magazines and blogs have always been PR rags than actual journalism.

I remember Daikatana getting a bunch of good press during the years that it was being developed, but the reporting soured after it was released and flopped. Stuff like that happened before Daikatana and continued after. Gamergate just exposed the incestual nature of game developers and gamer magazines and blogs, but the extra fun of a sex scandal and political correctness and lulz.
  
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All true, very true.

If I indulge myself a little bit, my fantasy journalist would be a former seasoned reporter from a mid-sized market who has just relocated and started writing for gaming after his Pulitzer prize winning newspaper went bankrupt. Ideally someone on the crime/municipal desk, who is used to learning the general shape and scope of complex entities quickly and has a well developed taste for nailing bullshit.


Oh well, it's nice to daydream.
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Hag Master wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 10:36pm:
If I indulge myself a little bit, my fantasy journalist would be a former seasoned reporter from a mid-sized market who has just relocated and started writing for gaming after his Pulitzer prize winning newspaper went bankrupt. Ideally someone on the crime/municipal desk, who is used to learning the general shape and scope of complex entities quickly and has a well developed taste for nailing bullshit.


Oh well, it's nice to daydream.

Hey, as long as you're daydreaming, daydream a competent programmer who made his million working for Apple and went to work for Turbine after he relocated to Boston to take care of his sick mother.

Ideally someone who worked in 3d modeling and who is used to learning the intricacies of a large software project. Someone smart enough recognize bullshit and the brother in law of some hot-shot at Warner Brothers so Severance Pay can't fire him.

Either that or that the noob who's soulstone you carried to the shrine turned out to be Liv Tyler and she's so greatful she wants to come over to your place and teach you the Elvish Tongue.

But really, why stop at a good reporter?
  
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Meursault wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 11:26pm:
Either that or that the noob who's soulstone you carried to the shrine turned out to be Liv Tyler and she's so greatful she wants to come over to your place and teach you the Elvish Tongue.


If we're dreaming about Elvish Tongue, I'd have to go with Evangeline Lilly.......  le sigh.
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Reply #21 - May 26th, 2015 at 11:43pm
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DropBear wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 11:39pm:
Evangeline Lilly

She was the friend of a friend in BC...  should I pass along your best toon's name?
  
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Reply #22 - May 26th, 2015 at 11:48pm
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Take a cold shower you pack of Pervs, I was trying to convey the fear that genuine external accountability would bring Turbine,

Not fill your damn spank-banks.


P.S. Cate B. can teach me. 
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Ah Pook wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 11:43pm:
She was the friend of a friend in BC...  should I pass along your best toon's name?


Nah, why spoil the dream.    Wink

PS - what's BC?
  
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Reply #24 - May 27th, 2015 at 12:05am
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Hag Master wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 11:48pm:
Take a cold shower you pack of Pervs, I was trying to convey the fear that genuine external accountability would bring Turbine,

Not fill your damn spank-banks.
P.S. Cate B. can teach me. 


Hey, it's Meursault's fault.  He derailed it.
Once he mentioned Liv Tyler and Elvish tongue...... well, um....  did I mention Evangeline Lilly?  Hawt!  Smiley   le sigh....where was I up to?
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