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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Pally DPS-- which is best? Jun 8^th, 2015 at 11:57am	Print Post
	Sword and Board with Vanguard? THF ? TWF? Has anyone done real maths or comparisons? 5 foot seems to thing THF is best. That's what I'm currently running (lvl 17), But I grouped with a S&Ber doing well. Hjelp plox.

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HairyO Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 355 Joined: Jun 30^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Pally DPS-- which is best? Reply #1 - Jun 8^th, 2015 at 6:04pm	Print Post
	All I know is THF is insane. If the others are better, then that just means the class is completely broken.


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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5986 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: Pally DPS-- which is best? Reply #2 - Jun 8^th, 2015 at 10:00pm	Print Post
	Thf is best vs trash. Single target idk

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Lelouch Shroud Slacker Offline What is a moron? A person playing ddo Posts: 1073 Joined: Apr 19^th, 2014	Re: Pally DPS-- which is best? Reply #3 - Jun 9^th, 2015 at 4:30am	Print Post
	Swf was best single target before nerf, 2 handed is best trash and solid boss dps, 2 weapon is best single target� boss dps, tho a bow� paliecher prolly has "the best palie" boss burst dps. S&b is cc/defense focused, its prolly best fit for new to epic players. Whatever you pick will be strong. I prefer 2 weapon with a 5 ranger splash, get more active attacks and makes palie less horribly boring to play and fixes the issue with aoe trasch clear + can fit in manyshot for bursty dps. But all boils down to what you prefer.
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DoRayEgon Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1042 Joined: Apr 4^th, 2014	Re: Pally DPS-- which is best? Reply #4 - Jun 9^th, 2015 at 2:24pm	Print Post
	Lelouch wrote on Jun 9^th, 2015 at 4:30am: Whatever you pick will be strong. I prefer 2 weapon with a 5 ranger splash, get more active attacks and makes palie less horribly boring to play and fixes the issue with aoe trasch clear + can fit in manyshot for bursty dps. But all boils down to what you prefer. This. Pallies get best of both worlds (THF and TWF) in one with Holy Sword and Dance of Death.


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Pally DPS-- which is best? Reply #5 - Jun 10^th, 2015 at 11:02pm	Print Post
	Meat-Head wrote on Jun 8^th, 2015 at 11:57am: Sword and Board with Vanguard? THF ? TWF? Has anyone done real maths or comparisons? 5 foot seems to thing THF is best. That's what I'm currently running (lvl 17), But I grouped with a S&Ber doing well. Hjelp plox. It's not like any of the options are bad. I'm pretty sure that any style pally is greater dps than any style Fighter. The thing that makes THF shine for Pally is the light damage from KotC that procs on every hit and every glance. You'll see it hit for 100+ in epic if you get your melee power high enough.

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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Pally DPS-- which is best? Reply #6 - Jun 10^th, 2015 at 11:13pm	Print Post
	Up to lvl 24 now. I've mostly been using the melee divine destiny (blanking on name). For now, I've been using a Sireth I had laying around. This guy was monk-based for many lives. So, I have a truckload of wraps. But, my selection of THF is weak. Lit2 falchion --> Sireth is where I'm at now (with a trip pos maul situationally). I guess I need to get an EAGA (only need base) and a Thunderforged. I have everything I need for a t1 or t2 thunderforged. Shadow phlogs is what I don't have. Question: Are there good gear pieces that wade-in-to-melee-on-EE people are using in terms of damage mitigation? Or, are we relying mostly on ENH+Destiny stuff for PRR/MRR + Displacement? Seems like I was getting hit really hard on an EE the other day, and I wasn't sure what else to do.. In my monk days, shadowfade was my friend. Now...?
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	A half-dozen boss Vaulties donated generously with real money to my classroom during a fundraiser in May 2015 to get poor kids books to read. I won't forget that. They know who they are, and they freaking rule. Disavowed wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration. Artorias wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Pally DPS-- which is best? Reply #7 - Jun 11^th, 2015 at 12:17am	Print Post
	Meat-Head wrote on Jun 10^th, 2015 at 11:13pm: Up to lvl 24 now. I've mostly been using the melee divine destiny (blanking on name). For now, I've been using a Sireth I had laying around. This guy was monk-based for many lives. So, I have a truckload of wraps. But, my selection of THF is weak. Lit2 falchion --> Sireth is where I'm at now (with a trip pos maul situationally). I guess I need to get an EAGA (only need base) and a Thunderforged. I have everything I need for a t1 or t2 thunderforged. Shadow phlogs is what I don't have. Question: Are there good gear pieces that wade-in-to-melee-on-EE people are using in terms of damage mitigation? Or, are we relying mostly on ENH+Destiny stuff for PRR/MRR + Displacement? Seems like I was getting hit really hard on an EE the other day, and I wasn't sure what else to do.. In my monk days, shadowfade was my friend. Now...? Sireth is good. Cannith Elemental Greataxe of Fire is great at level 20. Sky Breaker is decent at ml 25. You can get Drow weapons on the AH (maybe). Tier 1 TF is effective, cheap, and ML 24. As for mitigation....it should be mostly heavy armor + displacement/lesser displacement (EE Ring of Shadows/eToEE armor). Ghostly is available in a bunch of places nowadays for 10% extra. You can also stack up PRR from PDK IPLs and Divine EPLs.

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AllBorkedup Waterworks Kobold Offline Be Happy~! Posts: 167 Joined: Feb 24^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Pally DPS-- which is best? Reply #8 - Jun 18^th, 2015 at 9:03am	Print Post
	I find good healing amp (100+) with crusade going along with what 5ft recommends ensures any damage is quickly recaptured. Even against boss's like the TOEE Ogre Leaders you can stand fast absorbing the 150-200 damage hits.


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DoRayEgon Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1042 Joined: Apr 4^th, 2014	Re: Pally DPS-- which is best? Reply #9 - Jun 18^th, 2015 at 10:28am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 12:17am: Sireth is good. Cannith Elemental Greataxe of Fire is great at level 20. Sky Breaker is decent at ml 25. You can get Drow weapons on the AH (maybe). Tier 1 TF is effective, cheap, and ML 24. As for mitigation....it should be mostly heavy armor + displacement/lesser displacement (EE Ring of Shadows/eToEE armor). Ghostly is available in a bunch of places nowadays for 10% extra. You can also stack up PRR from PDK IPLs and Divine EPLs. Yep, if you have nothing to start with Tier 1 Thunderforged is easily made/acquired and effective. Even Tier 2 is not difficult to get the mats.


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Pally DPS-- which is best? Reply #10 - Jun 19^th, 2015 at 10:03pm	Print Post
	AllBorkedup wrote on Jun 18^th, 2015 at 9:03am: I find good healing amp (100+) with crusade going along with what 5ft recommends ensures any damage is quickly recaptured. Even against boss's like the TOEE Ogre Leaders you can stand fast absorbing the 150-200 damage hits. Yeah, anytime you have steady incoming healing, H-amp easily becomes your most important defensive stat...whether it's consecration, blood strength, cleric aura, vampirism, etc.

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jobharve Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2 Joined: Jul 25^th, 2015	Re: Pally DPS-- which is best? Reply #11 - Jul 25^th, 2015 at 7:04pm	Print Post
	I have tried all 3 and DPS is comparable between them. TWF is a little slower on trash mobs with no glancing blows. I go with sword and board myself and use a bastard sword. Take the THF feats that I can work into the build. At cap I can easily swap enhancements away from vanguard and go stalwart defender to make a tank for EE deathwyrm or FoTP. Works for me for rolling through a few more epic lives.


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