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Sep 24th, 2015 at 5:19am
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To keep players in the loop: While this is verified to be fixed internally it just missed the cutoff for U28 changes. Improved Weapon Finesse will not apply to Thrown Weapons on live until the next patch/hotfix/update after U28. It will be placed in the known issues until that point.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.


Typical that they've wheeled out some nobody to drop the stinker rather than Varg coming out to be honest himself.
  
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Reply #1 - Sep 24th, 2015 at 7:14am
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Who cares?

I see a lot of posts about throwers here and some on main forums. But I have never seen anyone play one. Noone I know plays one.

Sorry to break your bubble, but this is irrelevant.  Kiss
  
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Reply #2 - Sep 24th, 2015 at 7:57am
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DDONoob wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 7:14am:
Who cares?

I see a lot of posts about throwers here and some on main forums. But I have never seen anyone play one. Noone I know plays one.

Sorry to break your bubble, but this is irrelevant.  Kiss


Oh, that is going to cut deep for poor NotHarharhar who is the unmatched paragon of thrower builds.
That comment will definitely hurt his feels and he'll probably say something really nasty to you.
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Re: Bad news for ranger 12 throwers
Reply #3 - Sep 24th, 2015 at 8:18am
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DDONoob wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 7:14am:
I see a lot of posts about throwers here and some on main forums. But I have never seen anyone play one. Noone I know plays one.

Sorry to break your bubble, but this is irrelevant.

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Reply #4 - Sep 24th, 2015 at 9:08am
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[quote author=5D6B787E786F7677190 link=1443086392/1#1 date=1443093297]Who cares?

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This.
  
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Reply #5 - Sep 24th, 2015 at 9:42am
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DDONoob wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 7:14am:
Who cares?

I see a lot of posts about throwers here and some on main forums. But I have never seen anyone play one. Noone I know plays one.

Sorry to break your bubble, but this is irrelevant.  Kiss


Why is it that thrower builds avoid grouping with you?
  
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Reply #6 - Sep 24th, 2015 at 9:45am
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CosmicCharlie wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 9:42am:
Why is it that thrower builds avoid grouping with you?


Because my epeen is tiny?  Roll Eyes
  
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Reply #7 - Sep 24th, 2015 at 9:50am
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Thrower builds have gotten buffed a lot recently to the point where they aren't totally gimp.  But mechanic x-bow builds got mega buffed to the point where, if you want to do ranged I'm not sure why you are holding a bow or a thrower at this point except for flavor.  That will hopefully change when we see the AA tree, but that would just push throwers back to 3rd place again.

They had their brief 15 minutes, but it's over.
  
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Reply #8 - Sep 24th, 2015 at 9:52am
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i hate to say it,i know i will be probably be  trolled.but i've not seen a good thrower build at all.not saying there is none.just never seen one worth talking about
  
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Reply #9 - Sep 24th, 2015 at 9:56am
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nevermind,i got to thinking about it there was the old stacking damage glitch for thrower that i forgot about.my bad
  
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Reply #10 - Sep 24th, 2015 at 10:19am
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I don't see why we should replace ninja spy for IWF?
You'd lose an extra shuriken.

Played a halfling 12/5/3 ranger, rogue, monk on an outdated toon i transfered from live 2 updates ago, only thing missing is my ToEE set. I'd see an improvement if i TR my live toon (11/6/3 rogue, ranger monk) to this build.
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Re: Bad news for ranger 12 throwers
Reply #11 - Sep 24th, 2015 at 10:47am
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DDONoob wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 7:14am:
Who cares?

I see a lot of posts about throwers here and some on main forums. But I have never seen anyone play one. Noone I know plays one.

Sorry to break your bubble, but this is irrelevant.  Kiss


I play a thrower and she dominates, but it doesn't affect me.  Yet!
  
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Re: Bad news for ranger 12 throwers
Reply #12 - Sep 24th, 2015 at 10:50am
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Halfmaniac wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 10:19am:
I don't see why we should replace ninja spy for IWF?
You'd lose an extra shuriken.

Played a halfling 12/5/3 ranger, rogue, monk on an outdated toon i transfered from live 2 updates ago, only thing missing is my ToEE set. I'd see an improvement if i TR my live toon (11/6/3 rogue, ranger monk) to this build.


I'm 11rog/6monk/3 Pali.  Not the end all be all of ranged but she normally is tops in kills and dps. Depending on quest/party.  It's a fun build.  Probably not the best again, but I love playing her.  She never fails saves on reflexes.  Ever with a 92. 
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Re: Bad news for ranger 12 throwers
Reply #13 - Sep 24th, 2015 at 12:09pm
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Fuck throwers, I hate them. They makes no sense for me. Anything that is terrible on paper 3.5 should be terrible on DDO. That is the only way the game kinda worked before MotU.
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Reply #14 - Sep 24th, 2015 at 12:28pm
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Asheras wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 9:50am:
Thrower builds have gotten buffed a lot recently to the point where they aren't totally gimp.  But mechanic x-bow builds got mega buffed to the point where, if you want to do ranged I'm not sure why you are holding a bow or a thrower at this point except for flavor.  That will hopefully change when we see the AA tree, but that would just push throwers back to 3rd place again.

They had their brief 15 minutes, but it's over.


I'm pretty sure when we've grouped on Khyber, you have had no complaints. Let me know if you'd like a reminder we can group up. Bring your best character.

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Reply #15 - Sep 24th, 2015 at 12:36pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 9:08am:
[quote author=5D6B787E786F7677190 link=1443086392/1#1 date=1443093297]Who cares?

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This.


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Reply #16 - Sep 24th, 2015 at 12:37pm
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totally wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 5:19am:
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/465387-U28-Lamannia-Ranger-Deepwood-St...


Typical that they've wheeled out some nobody to drop the stinker rather than Varg coming out to be honest himself.


They'll fix it in a week or two in an update from what I understand. No big deal.
  
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uh...

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To keep players in the loop: While this is verified to be fixed internally it just missed the cutoff for U28 changes. Improved Weapon Finesse will not apply to Thrown Weapons on live until the next patch/hotfix/update after U28. It will be placed in the known issues until that point.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.


Typical buffoonery by Turbine, rush the update without testing new changes on Lamma, or without all the bug fixes loaded.

Truly not one person in that pack of industry rejects has a clue of how to do a job properly. [/quote]
  
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Reply #18 - Sep 24th, 2015 at 12:46pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 9:08am:
This.

That. There was one guy in CC who played good tosser though.
Doesn't play anymore.

Noone good plays them, few I met - complete failures. Squishy AF always on toons in Shiradi with more deaths than kills.
  
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Reply #19 - Sep 24th, 2015 at 12:47pm
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Wipe wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 12:46pm:
That. There was one guy in CC who played good tosser though.
Doesn't play anymore.

Noone good plays them, few I met - complete failures. Squishy AF always on toons in Shiradi with more deaths than kills.


A thrower in Shiradi is an idiot. LD or SD all day, depending on quest/timing/ability to always have 7+ stacks.
  
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Reply #20 - Sep 24th, 2015 at 12:52pm
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Wipe wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 12:46pm:
That. There was one guy in CC who played good tosser though.
Doesn't play anymore.

Noone good plays them, few I met - complete failures. Squishy AF always on toons in Shiradi with more deaths than kills.


Come run with my thrower.  I hardly ever die, for they never catch me, and normally last one alive.  If not for my thrower during the DOJ last night (pug), we would have failed.  I was only one alive a kited the boss/trash around until we completed. 

Most attempts at throwers by inexperienced people suck, you're correct, but don't blanket everyone. 

My main stats: dex 62, halfling, LD, 80 fort, 92 ref, 70 will, imp evasion, with 100 prr and 86mrr.  Could be more dps with rgr, but....
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Reply #21 - Sep 24th, 2015 at 1:12pm
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Doodle wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 12:52pm:
Come run with my thrower.  I hardly ever die, for they never catch me, and normally last one alive.  If not for my thrower during the DOJ last night (pug), we would have failed.  I was only one alive a kited the boss/trash around until we completed. 

Most attempts at throwers by inexperienced people suck, you're correct, but don't blanket everyone. 

My main stats: dex 62, halfling, LD, 80 fort, 92 ref, 70 will, imp evasion, with 100 prr and 86mrr.  Could be more dps with rgr, but....


its funny that people say ignorant things about stuff they don't understand and then get angry about it. Sounds like you run a competent thrower. Whats your class split? For 80 Fort and 70 Will you pretty much have to have Paladin levels.
  
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Reply #22 - Sep 24th, 2015 at 1:53pm
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harharharhar wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 12:28pm:
I'm pretty sure when we've grouped on Khyber, you have had no complaints. Let me know if you'd like a reminder we can group up. Bring your best character.


Sure.  Shoot me a tell next time we run a quest.  I'd like to see a decent thrower build in action.  Guild will be doing 3xMoD and 3xDoJ tonight if you want to run.  I'll probably be on a newly LR'd gimp ranger.  I can't actually remember playing with a throwing toon, honestly.  I rarely notice what weapons people are using unless they have a cool skin.   If you had a rogue icon, I probably assumed you were an x-bow mechanic.
  
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Reply #23 - Sep 24th, 2015 at 2:03pm
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Asheras wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 1:53pm:
Sure.  Shoot me a tell next time we run a quest.  I'd like to see a decent thrower build in action.  Guild will be doing 3xMoD and 3xDoJ tonight if you want to run.  I'll probably be on a newly LR'd gimp ranger.  I can't actually remember playing with a throwing toon, honestly.  I rarely notice what weapons people are using unless they have a cool skin.   If you had a rogue icon, I probably assumed you were an x-bow mechanic.


11 Rogue 6 Ranger 3 Monk most recently the last time we ran some MoDs together.

I haven't ITR'd since capping my last PDK like (pally/Monk/Ftr build for PLs) psuedo Gimp. I was gonna TR into a 12 Ranger build but since the crit threat isn't working yet, I may hold off. But yeah, I've have a rogue icon for a long time now (13x/11x/8x)
  
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Reply #24 - Sep 24th, 2015 at 4:38pm
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harharharhar wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 1:12pm:
its funny that people say ignorant things about stuff they don't understand and then get angry about it. Sounds like you run a competent thrower. Whats your class split? For 80 Fort and 70 Will you pretty much have to have Paladin levels.


What are you trying to acomplish? If throwers are so good dps why do you need to prove this so badly? You are the only one angry here, from what we can see per your posts, it's just classic that the angry guuy calls others angry. Ok, throwers do some dps, but it's just inferior to rogue.
  
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